Jimmy Carter

You may not care what Jimmy Carter says, but please do not use "we", which implies that everyone posting on this message board has your opinion.

The unpleasantness factor on these political posts has really ramped up lately. Makes it hard to weed through to the comments that are actual comments and not rants.

For future reference my "We" refers to Republicans!

And BTW - that was a rant!

I am guessing this is what you are talking about...????...

South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson's son to Jimmy Carter: 'Not a racist bone in my dad's body'
By Brian Kates
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Wednesday, September 16th 2009, 9:33 AM

Alan Wilson, the son of Rep. Joe Wilson, (pictured), defended his father...


...in the wake of a comment by former president Jimmy Carter calling the elder Wilson's 'You Lie' outburst during an address by President Obama, 'based on racism.'

South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson's son defended him Wednesday against a charge by former President Jimmy Carter that the congressman's "You lie" outburst during a speech by President Obama was racist.
"There is not a racist bone in my dad's body," said Alan Wilson, who is running for state attorney general in South Carolina. "He doesn't even laugh at distasteful jokes."
The day before, Carter called Wilson's outburst "dastardly" and "based on racism."
"There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president," the former president, a Democrat, said. He was responding to an audience question at a town hall meeting at his presidential center in Atlanta.
The elder Wilson, a Republican, was formally rebuked Tuesday in a House vote for shouting "You lie!" during Obama's speech to Congress last Wednesday.
The shout came after the president said illegal aliens would be ineligible for federal subsidies to buy health insurance.
"It's unfortunate people make that jump," Wilson's son said of Carter's claim. "People can disagree - and appropriately disagree - on issues of substance, but when they make the jump to race it's absolutely ludicrous. My brothers and I were raised by our parents to respect everyone regardless of background or race."
Carter said Joe Wilson's outburst was a part of a trend against Obama that has included demonstrators equating him to Nazi leaders.
"Those kind of things are not just casual outcomes of a sincere debate on whether we should have a national program on health care," Carter said. "It's deeper than that."
The rare Congressional rebuke of Wilson was pushed through by Democrats angry that the Republican had violated rules of decorum and civility. Some Republicans, though, characterized the measure as a witch hunt.
Wilson, who apologized to Obama, insisted he owed the House no apology.
South Carolina's former Democratic Party chairman also said he doesn't believe Wilson is a racist.
"I think Joe's conduct was asinine, but I think it would be asinine no matter what the color of the president," said Dick Harpootlian. "I don't think Joe's outburst was caused by President Obama being African-American. I think it was caused by no filter being between his brain and his mouth."
NY Daily News

For future reference my "We" refers to Republicans!

I wouldn't assume that either- not every Republican believes the same way you do, just like every Democrat does not believe like me. My Republican friends don't like to be lumped in with the ranters and haters and neo-conservative types. And while they may not liked Jimmy Carter's choice of words, they understand his thoughts behind them.

When one is going to rant, they need to speak for themselves.

When one is going to rant, they need to speak for themselves.

you are so right jdarg.

its also important to explain the issue and your opinion, in a rational, coherent way, so others may respond if they wish.

you are so right jdarg.

its also important to explain the issue and your opinion, in a rational, coherent way, so others may respond if they wish.

But why? Ranting is soo easy?

Whatcha doing for lunch? (How's that for a tangent!)

rant salad with rant dressing on the side

I am a lifelong Republican and I don't see where Jimmy Carter is coming from or anyone else for that matter when it is said that Wilson is a racist for blurting during Pres. Obamas speech. BTW, I like Obama and I voted for him.

I am a lifelong Republican and I don't see where Jimmy Carter is coming from or anyone else for that matter when it is said that Wilson is a racist for blurting during Pres. Obamas speech. BTW, I like Obama and I voted for him.

look at his past. he can't run from it. it's a lack of respect born of his prejudice. i voted for obama, and i'm republican, and the racist anger is easy to see.

Hamas Jimmy ought not throw stones with the anti semitic company he keeps.

My Republican friends don't like to be lumped in with the ranters and haters and neo-conservative types.

Are you speaking of that renowned self proclaimed "moderate republican" Bob or do you have other "republican friends"?

look at his past. he can't run from it. it's a lack of respect born of his prejudice. i voted for obama, and i'm republican, and the racist anger is easy to see.

The exact thing can be said of our President's racist views, Bob, and you know it.

Would someone please let Jimmy Carter know that we DO NOT CARE what he thinks! You're out of the spotlight Jimmy - go home to your peanut farm!!!!!

No matter who says the words there's a lot of truth to them. Some of the remarks directed against Obama go way beyond objections to mere policy decisions. You've got your birthers and your deathers. Are they just complete ignoramuses or is something else at work? Probably a little of both. Then you have people comparing him to Hitler, calling him BOTH a socialist and a fascist, yet they know what neither of these words means and they can't spell them either. Give me a break.

The exact thing can be said of our President's racist views, Bob, and you know it.

I dont, fill me in please.

Are you speaking of that renowned self proclaimed "moderate republican" Bob or do you have other "republican friends"?

What a rude, but not unexpected question, which only deserves a smarta$$ response. (actually, it doesn't deserve one at all, but I am waiting for my coffee to brew- it's Fair Trade BTW.)

Yes FT, Bob is my only Republican friend. I only hang around with treehuggers, Obamalovers, atheists, Muslims, elitists, and ACORN employees.

i voted for obama, and i'm republican.

So - I voted for Obama 10 times, and I'm not even a citizen.

Thought I was talking about Jimmy Carter?

Good one Full Time!

I really do regret the fact that Carter is correct in his statement. but I think it needs more explanation. it is my experience that racist people rarely recognize that they ARE racist. so, they just can't understand what Carter, or anyone else, is talking about. so, if Carter, or anyone else is going to come out and make this statement, I think they had better be ready to explain fully what they mean.

I can't really voice it, but I know racism is at least part of what we are seeing/hearing from some. and I deeply regret it on behalf of my country.

Are you saying, that since I dont think Wilsons comment was racist, or understand why Carter would say that he is, that I am a racist???

Are you saying, that since I dont think Wilsons comment was racist, or understand why Carter would say that he is, that I am a racist???

not sure who you are asking, but my response would be absolutey NOT. its purely a matter of personal opinion. at least, that is how I see it.

I am just saying I think Carter has a good idea of what he is talking about... but I'm not so sure he needed to say it as he did. it really does not accomplish anything. and that is just my own thoughts on it

I don't know if Wilson is racist or not, I would never label someone that way based on one situation of showing extremely bad manners and rude behavior. He chose the wrong moment to make a point that I do know for sure.

But this I do know, it is very easy to make comments about things one has not lived and many do that especially the media.

I live in probably one of the most, if not the most racially divided city in the US.

And the main reason it does not improve is that people of both races do not want it to improve, they use the race card to their personal advantage both black and white.

We have been subjected over the last several years to the most incomptent major anyone could possibly have to endure. He is arrogant, thinks he is above the law, has let the city be over run with crime, wasted so much taxpayer money to his own personal gain; that there is not one single person other than his personal entourage that supports him.

The point of all this is, he is black. If any white person criticizes him they are labeled racist, if any blacks criticize him they are labeled well versed and educated.

Why should the same opinion be labeled due to the color of one's skin.

Until we move past that, we are doomed to live in the past.

"You're out of the spotlight Jimmy - go home to your peanut farm!!!!!" ... Scooter

Your statement, Scooter, doesn?t hold water considering what Jimmy Carter has done for human rights, peace, agriculture, diseases, election monitoring, Habitat For Humanity. ....

If you want to talk about his comments regarding Joe Wilson, then do that but don?t assume all republicans, or even very many, cannot see the value of many of Carter?s achievements.

One former Carter White House aide, Jack Watson, offered this thought:
"Someone once said, and I agree with them, that he is the only man in American history ... who used the United States presidency ... as a stepping stone to greatness."

I wouldn't assume that either- not every Republican believes the same way you do, just like every Democrat does not believe like me. My Republican friends don't like to be lumped in with the ranters and haters and neo-conservative types. And while they may not liked Jimmy Carter's choice of words, they understand his thoughts behind them.

When one is going to rant, they need to speak for themselves.

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rant salad with rant dressing on the side

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I dont, fill me in please.

The man attended a racist and anti semitic church for 20 years and only when it was politically expedient did he disassociate himself from the group.