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This isn't so much news as something humorous. Chris Wallace was on O'Reily last night discussing Obama's round on the Sunday news shows. Apparently he prety much hit every one, including a spanish news channel, but skipped Fox. Wallace had this to say about the current White House -

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoNMvubV87M&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Chris Wallace commenting on his treatment by the Obama White House[/ame]

I post this because, quite honestly, looking back over the last nine months, I'm really not that impressed with Obama and his administration. Even though I didn't vote for the guy, I was kind of pumped about the ideas of bipartisanship and "bridging the divide" and transparency. However I don't feel as if I've seen any of this from the current administration - it feels kinda same-old same-old to me. I also feel as though both the far left and far right are angrier now than they ever were. I caught Mayer last night and was surprised at how angry and mean and denigrating his comments were regarding some of his fellow Americans, specifically the older generations who are leery of Obama's policies. It feels as if the current political divide has widened significantly over the last year, and it's not a one sided division. If this keeps up where will we be in three years?

So what say you SoWal, how is Obama's administration doing, are you seeing what you were hopeful for or are you disappointed about the progress we've made? If not, who do you blame?

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Bob avatar
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#52
Not entirely sure if I agree with you Geo. People tend to watch the news programs they trust to do the best job and provide the best coverage. I'm not sure why you would chose a news show otherwise.

Fox News has nine of the top ten most watched news programs. Some of those programs I watch specifically because they offer up the best commentary and analysis without all the yelling and *****ing you see on CNN. Special Report is a good example, you always have smart people from both the left and the right on that show who respect each other's opinions. There's a lot of value in that.

1. "The O'Reilly Factor" (Fox News): 3,498,000 total viewers
2. "Hannity" (Fox News): 2,566,000 total viewers
3. "Glenn Beck" (Fox News): 2,230,000 total viewers
4. "On the Record with Greta van Susteren" (Fox News): 2,173,000 total viewers
5. "Special Report with Bret Baier" (Fox News): 2,047,000 total viewers
6. "The Fox Report with Shepard Smith" (Fox News): 1,915,000 total viewers
7. "The O'Reilly Factor" (Fox News, repeat): 1,723,000 total viewers
8. "Your World with Neil Cavuto" (Fox News): 1,520,000 total viewers
9. "America's Newsroom" (Fox News): 1,505,000 total viewers
10. "Studio B with Shepard Smith" (Fox News): 1,314,000 total viewers
11. "Happening Now" (Fox News): 1,247,000 total viewers
12. "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" (MSNBC): 1,237,000 total viewers
13. "The Live Desk" (Fox News): 1,210,000 total viewers
14. "Larry King Live" (CNN): 1,093,000 total viewers
15. "Anderson Cooper 360" (CNN): 1,058,000 total viewers
16. "The Rachel Maddow Show" (MSNBC): 1,042,000 total viewers
17. "Situation Room" (CNN): 898,000 total viewers
18. "Lou Dobbs Tonight" (CNN): 826,000 total viewers
19. "Campbell Brown: No Bias, No Bull" (CNN): 786,000 total viewers
20. "CNN Newsroom" (CNN): 725,000 total viewers

billions and billions served, would you like fries with your fear and anger
Blair avatar
Beach Fanatic
#53
Oh Bob....I'm so disappointed....

where's the racists teabagging redneck "copy and paste" you always use?
Teresa avatar
SoWal Guide
#54
or perhaps obama doesn't think that fox is a real news network.
i sure as hell don't.

my thoughts exactly. as president, I would hope he would be selective about his venues.

watch pbs news...it's about the most boring, bland, straightforward news out there. Those other news sources are about ratings...nothing else.

excellent point SSB. I need to make an effort to watch more of pbs news.

:blink:

Another fantastic skew of data. C'mon. It's a joke, right? You were only kidding, yes?

First of all-
fair and balanced is intended to refer to their content/reporting (not the breakdown of viewership by party)

Second-
Let's assume the numbers are true and a third of Fox viewers are democrats. How many of those left leaning viewers watch Fox just for shock value as I do?

I used to watch to better understand people who do not think like me and to try and make myself balanced because I also watch CNN. Now I watch because it is a guilty pleasure- like watching Jerry Springer. If it was fair and balanced I would probably watch Fox less!

I totally relate to this. but I finally got over it and now I won't look at it because it brings a lot of sensational/angry/negative vibes into my living room that I could definitely do without. life is way too short and precious. but, as we have seen many admit around here, a ton of people tune in because of the shock/entertainment value. some even live for it. lots of people buy into all of it. I have relatives who thrive on it.. :roll:

I will listen to 10 minutes of CNN every other day or so. NPR every single day! I enjoy the many different news and educational/informational programs. even when topics are controversial, they are covered in a friendly, professional, non-confrontational way so that issues can truly be discussed and explored from all sides. you can hear the good & bad news of the day in short news broadcasts (without the images) - given professionally, and not sensationalized. the programming is just refreshing.

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beachmouse avatar
Beach Fanatic
#55
I think Fox is nowhere near fair and balanced when it comes to commentaries. But I'll tune in during their general news shows because they tend to have a better variety of stories when CNN is cycling the same five clips throughout the day.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#56
Oh Bob....I'm so disappointed....

where's the racists teabagging redneck "copy and paste" you always use?
that's for after dinner hours
Geo avatar
Beach Fanatic
#58
Not entirely sure if I agree with you Geo. People tend to watch the news programs they trust to do the best job and provide the best coverage. I'm not sure why you would chose a news show otherwise.

Hi Shopper,

The ratings data tells us one thing- that tv sets are on. If you believe in science, then it is a false to conclude (based on the data) that Fox news is or is not fair and balanced.

If ratings data showed that CNN's viewership was split equally between dems, repubs and independents I would say the same thing.

This is not a partisan argument. Just calling BS on an inference of data.

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