12 Soldiers Killed and 31 Wounded in Fort Hood Shooting

abolutely out of control! i wonder if this is the first of a terrorist mole? god i hope not

Waiting to get more info - there is going to be more to this story and I think this will be a weird one.

Whatever the story, which no one is talking right now, this is very tragic! My heart goes out to all of these families and co-workers.

What a terrible tragedy. Hopefully there will be answers very soon.

abolutely out of control! i wonder if this is the first of a terrorist mole? god i hope not

Hold on there cowboy...or is inciting fear the way you react initially to any tragedy??:angry: Lets let the facts come out logicially from this terrible tragedy before you start looking up birth records.

the interview with his cousin made it sound like he snapped from several things, including his upcoming deployment. not saying any of this is factual news, i'm just commenting on the interview

Hold on there cowboy...or is inciting fear the way you react initially to any tragedy??:angry: Lets let the facts come out logicially from this terrible tragedy before you start looking up birth records.

I agree. Assuming can be bad. One of the first lessons we learn.

III Corps and lots of Ft Hood units have deployed and redeployed. They have some high demand/low density units that have deployed or currently on their 4th deployment.

There are a lot of military servicemembers with foreign names that are American citizens of naturalized citizens. We have actively recruited them in specialty programs. We have recruited a few bad eggs, but most are quickly found.

These guys are just snapping. As I said the other night "throw in the divorce word" and it is even tougher for them.

I pray for all families involved.

Malik Nadal Hasan (PHOTO): Key Details Emerge About Fort Hood Shooting Suspect




LARA JAKES and PAM HESS | 11/ 5/09 09:26 PM |




WASHINGTON — The Army psychiatrist suspected of carrying a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Texas, had come to the attention of authorities six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats, law enforcement officials said Thursday.


The postings appeared to have been made by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, who was wounded during the shootings at the Army post that killed 12 soldiers and wounded at least 30 others. A Fort Hood spokesman had earlier said Hasan was killed....


One of the Web postings that authorities reviewed is a blog that equates suicide bombers with a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades.
"To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its (sic) more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause," said the Internet posting. "Scholars have paralled (sic) this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers."...


Retired Army Col. Terry Lee told Fox News that he worked with Hasan, who had hoped Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Lee said Hasan got into frequent arguments with others in the military who supported the wars, and had tried hard to prevent his pending deployment.


Hasan was single with no children. He was born in Virginia and graduated from Virginia Tech University, where he was a member of the ROTC and earned a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 1997. He received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001. He did his internship, residency and a fellowship at Walter Reed. (Full Story)

I agree. Assuming can be bad. One of the first lessons we learn.

Sounds like a pretty safe assumption to me

"Shoot first, ask questions later" is what has gotten this country into trouble in the past. Some things and people never change. Americans are a dream come true for any potential terrorists- we have become a nation that becomes quickly frighten and will jump on a conspiracy theory in a nano second.

"Shoot first, ask questions later" is what has gotten this country into trouble in the past. Some things and people never change. Americans are a dream come true for any potential terrorists- we have become a nation that becomes quickly frighten and will jump on a conspiracy theory in a nano second.

True, but I could possibly consider this act to be a form of domestic terrorism depending on the shooter's motives. The devastating results are the same if nothing else. I would feel no better knowing that some of those around us have an agenda and are ready to lash out than if it were the Taliban or Al Quaeda. But you are so right about the conspiracy theory thing and our gullibility.:roll:

the interview with his cousin made it sound like he snapped from several things, including his upcoming deployment. not saying any of this is factual news, i'm just commenting on the interview

We also learned from the interview that he has been harassed since 911 for his religious beliefs.

We also learned from the interview that he has been harassed since 911 for his religious beliefs.

That's unfortunate, not justification for his actions.

We also learned from the interview that he has been harassed since 911 for his religious beliefs.

boo hoo, he ought to spend some time on the sowal message board being a Christian and toughen the F up

Did I say it was justification? I'm simply pointing out one of many things that could have driven this crazy murdering idiot over the edge along with all the other stress on todays military.

No, you didn't state it was. I was simply stating in my opinion, it wasn't.

I hope out of this tragedy, our agencies begin to effectively and efficiently communicate with one another.



ABC: U.S. Knew Hasan Tried Contacting Al Qaeda Months Ago | NewsBusters.org

That was a twist I wasn't expecting - thought it was going to be all about how many folks had dropped the ball, had their hands tied, or ignored the warning signs ala Virginia Tech shooter.

That was a twist I wasn't expecting - thought it was going to be all about how many folks had dropped the ball, had their hands tied, or ignored the warning signs ala Virginia Tech shooter.

Well said.!

What doesn't seem to be said about this incident is: who was his imediate superior officer. I thought the whole system of the military is for an officer to be responsible for the physical and mental readiness of the men under his command. I hate to sound mean about it, but his commanding officer had a responsibility and a duty to know how all his men were doing. In other words, where was his boss, when he was giving these inflamatory speeches and encountering the bigotry he was being subjected to? There is a chain of command, and there should be accountability.

Compare & Contrast: American Muslim Terrorist & American Decorated Police Officer

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwS5uLk_1z4&feature=fvsr"]YouTube- Fort Hood Shootings: Don't Jump To Conclusions[/ame]
"....to discuss their ongoing investigation into what caused one INDIVIDUAL to turn his gun on fellow service men and women. We don't know all the answers yet and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts"
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LucTPdK8VTc&feature=fvw"]YouTube- Obama: Cambridge Cops "Acted Stupidly" In Prof. Gates Arrest[/ame]
"....at that point he gets arrested for disorderly conduct, charges which are later dropped. Now,,,, I don't know not having been there and not seeing all the facts what role race played in that. But, I think it's fair to say #1, any of us would be pretty angry. #2, that the Cambridge Police, uh, acted stupidly........."

Yea. Just heard that too on Hannity.

Hmmm.. maybe Obama learned something from the first incident to the second. I like a President that learns from experience.

Good thing no one died in the Campridge "misunderstanding".

Maybe Ft. Hood is a serious matter that warrants special care and the cambridge cop incident isn't, just my guess.

Wait! So, Hasan was not killed? I have not followed it that closely, but I just heard that he may now be a paraplegic. And, due to the sensitivity of the ties to terrorists, we might offer him a plea to gain more info. as opposed to going for the death penalty.

I am OK with this, but will he talk? Final sign off will be President Obama.