Healthcare For All !!

I'm amazed this passed with such a thin margin. That doesn't bode well for the Senate bill. Should be interesting to see what happens next.

i want my mri now!!!

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Interesting write-up on what's still to come -

Hot Air ? Blog Archive ? Is this the high-water mark for ObamaCare?

Finally! The sweeping Democratic Healthcare bill passed late last night 220-215 with one Republican (Cao-LA) for the bill and 39 Dems against.House GOP amendment (replacement bill) was defeated....

A great victory for President Obama and our country. Three cheers!

Quote of the day from the wonderful Nancy Pelosi.."Well, that was easy!"

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Finally! The sweeping Democratic Healthcare bill passed late last night 220-215 with one Republican (Cao-LA) for the bill and 39 Dems against.House GOP amendment (replacement bill) was defeated....

A great victory for President Obama and our country. Three cheers!

Quote of the day from the wonderful Nancy Pelosi.."Well, that was easy!"

Great political victory for the President-----Yes
Great victory for our country--------NO
Adding 1 trillion in new debt and still not insuring everyone or adding doctors or reforming the tort system is not a victory.

Great victory for the anti-abortion crowd----no, a hollow victory at best, really just job protection for bluedog democrats.

Great political victory for the President-----Yes
Great victory for our country--------NO
Adding 1 trillion in new debt and still not insuring everyone or adding doctors or reforming the tort system is not a victory.

Great victory for the anti-abortion crowd----no, a hollow victory at best, really just job protection for bluedog democrats.

The actual government spending increases once fully implemented for this particular bill are around 2.6 trillion per decade. That's about 260 billion per year in added taxes, or about $1000.00 a year per citizen. "Free" healthcare can be expensive.

Yes, $2.6 Trillion! A Closer Look at the Full 10 Years of Spending in the House Health Bill ? The Foundry

The actual government spending increases once fully implemented for this particular bill are around 2.6 trillion per decade. That's about 260 billion per year in added taxes, or about $1000.00 a year per citizen. "Free" healthcare can be expensive.

Yes, $2.6 Trillion! A Closer Look at the Full 10 Years of Spending in the House Health Bill ? The Foundry

1000 a year? sounds like a deal, but why do i get the feeling I'm going to be putting in an extra 10000 a year?

If domestically Obama becomes liked to LBJ, then so be it. You'all I am just still kind of giddy about Obama's s great victory and the victory over the total tyranny of the existing Healthcare Cartel ( Healthcare insursnce Companies).

I am very proud, for the second time this year, to be an American!

Can someone explain who is going to pay for this and who is going to provide the care being promised to everyone?

If domestically Obama becomes liked to LBJ, then so be it. You'all I am just still kind of giddy about Obama's s great victory and the victory over the total tyranny of the existing Healthcare Cartel ( Healthcare insursnce Companies).

I am very proud, for the second time this year, to be an American!

What do you mean by that? Can you give some details?

I watched CSPAN for a while that night and the regurgitation of phrases that began with "the government will..." made my stomach turn.

Can someone explain who is going to pay for this and who is going to provide the care being promised to everyone?

1. Everyone who has a job and pays taxes forever and ever. Free for anyone else - redistribution of wealth.

2. Rationing and government selection of those deemed "worthy".

1. Everyone who has a job and pays taxes forever and ever. Free for anyone else - redistribution of wealth.

2. Rationing and government selection of those deemed "worthy".

Before you begin to discuss "redistribution of wealth" in terms of healthcare--let me clue you in. The top1% of the wealthiest in the country own more and have more than the LOWER 90% of the entire rest of the country. Then only the top 1/3 of this 1% will be additionally taxed for Healthcare.

That is not a "redistribution of wealth" as much as it is a slight correction of an outrageous inequity and an abomenation!

Get your information correct before spouting off non factual information to folks! :angry:

If domestically Obama becomes liked to LBJ, then so be it. You'all I am just still kind of giddy about Obama's s great victory and the victory over the total tyranny of the existing Healthcare Cartel ( Healthcare insursnce Companies).

I am very proud, for the second time this year, to be an American!

I sincerely applaud your passion and genuinely respect this kind of passion in everyone. Second time: The Inauguration or the Prize being the first?

I wouldn't take this comparison to LBJ too lightly......or, to FDR, either. ;-)

Before you begin to discuss "redistribution of wealth" in terms of healthcare--let me clue you in. The top1% of the wealthiest in the country own more and have more than the LOWER 90% of the entire rest of the country. Then only the top 1/3 of this 1% will be additionally taxed for Healthcare.

That is not a "redistribution of wealth" as much as it is a slight correction of an outrageous inequity and an abomenation!

Get your information correct before spouting off non factual information to folks! :angry:

hnooe is back!

hnooe is back!

what, where?

I sincerely applaud your passion and genuinely respect this kind of passion in everyone. Second time: The Inauguration or the Prize being the first?

I wouldn't take this comparison to LBJ too lightly......or, to FDR, either. ;-)

Oh no, Linnie, the Prize was a bit premature I do believe--I do not hink he has earned that quite yet.

The rest of the World may think so, but I do not. The Prize was really awarded to Obama by the World simply for NOT being Mr. Bush.

what, where?

Hello, Adorable!

Before you begin to discuss "redistribution of wealth" in terms of healthcare--let me clue you in. The top1% of the wealthiest in the country own more and have more than the LOWER 90% of the entire rest of the country. Then only the top 1/3 of this 1% will be additionally taxed for Healthcare.

That is not a "redistribution of wealth" as much as it is a slight correction of an outrageous inequity and an abomenation!

Get your information correct before spouting off non factual information to folks! :angry:

I suspect you mean that the CEO's of the world will pay for the rest of us to have all the healthcare we want/need and not have to pay for it ourselves (?because we deserve it). I think I follow. Now, the part I'm struggling with is your contention that those not in the upper third of the top 1% won't pay for this. Pfizer (evil drug company that makes $ off life saving drugs like Lipitor) has merged with Wyeth in a cost cutting move. Together, they will eliminate over 19,000 jobs and close 6 sites of research across the country. I suspect the CEO's will keep their jobs. I believe this is the top 1/3 of 1% "redistributing" wealth back their direction, "slightly correcting" what they believe is a coming "outrageous inequity", or "OBAMAnation".

The class warfare that is being applauded on the left will only result in more outsourcing and further erosion of our middle class.

hnooe is back!

And you guessed that when?

Hi! It's me, the hardworking (when I'm not Sowalling) tax paying middle class American who just wants a break from the rapidly increasing health insurance premiums and overall screwing by the health insurance industry - no class warfare, no massive taxes, no redistribution of wealth, just some basic rules and regulations to check the craziness.

I want myself and my family and friends to be able to GET and AFFORD (10% of your income seems a fair max) health insurance.

Why is that so awful???

Before you begin to discuss "redistribution of wealth" in terms of healthcare--let me clue you in. The top1% of the wealthiest in the country own more and have more than the LOWER 90% of the entire rest of the country. Then only the top 1/3 of this 1% will be additionally taxed for Healthcare.

That is not a "redistribution of wealth" as much as it is a slight correction of an outrageous inequity and an abomenation!

Get your information correct before spouting off non factual information to folks! :angry:

"I want, what he's got, but I don't want to earn it."

"I want, what he's got, but I don't want to earn it."

Look, I've been working since I was 12. I want affordable health insurance. I'm not asking for that trillion dollars, or free health insurance, or free health care.

Don't you realize that up until this bill, health insurers were exempt from antitrust laws? Isn't that a big old clue that they have a lot more power with the lawmakers than the consumers do?

Look, I've been working since I was 12. I want affordable health insurance. I'm not asking for that trillion dollars, or free health insurance, or free health care.

Don't you realize that up until this bill, health insurers were exempt from antitrust laws? Isn't that a big old clue that they have a lot more power with the lawmakers than the consumers do?

Very well stated Here4Good!