catholic church affects our government

Catholic Church Emerges as Key Player in Legislative Battle - WSJ.com Catholic Church Emerges as Key Player in Legislative Battle


By PETER WALLSTEN

Injecting itself aggressively into the health-care debate, the Roman Catholic Church in America has emerged as a major political force with the potential to upend a key piece of President Barack Obama's agenda.

Behind-the-scenes lobbying, coupled with a grassroots mobilization of Catholic churches across the country, led the House Saturday to pass an amendment to its health-care bill barring anyone who receives a new tax credit from enrolling in a plan that covers abortion, a once-unthinkable event in Democrat-dominated Washington.

The restriction would still have to be accepted by the Senate, where it will likely face a tough fight. The issue could sink the larger health legislation if the chambers fail to reach agreement, or if any consensus language leads supporters to defect.......this is unthinkable intervention in government

Time to strip away the tax exempt status.:angry:

Let me remind the knee jerk Catholic haters out there that without church lobbying you might not have a passed house bill right now. It sounds to me like the Catholic effort is consistent with President Obama's. "I laid out a very simple principle, which is this is a health care bill, not an abortion bill," Obama said. "And we're not looking to change what is the principle that has been in place for a very long time, which is federal dollars are not used to subsidize abortions,". Do you really want to let a squabble between the far left and far right sink the entire effort? If so, stay tuned because from what I see on the news it is coming down the pike in the Senate.

all you lefties enjoying yourself bashing religion? get it out of your system?

PATHETIC!

time to remove tax exemption status? do you have a clue the advantages of this? fact is the commercial construction industry as we speak would have fallen like residential if it wasnt for that exemption. but your right, ACORN deserves it-please. talk about blinded by the light

dis-organized religion? did olby teach you that one?

im no church-goer, but i know that churches and those who frequent them do more for the poor and oppressed than any liberal could ever.

if you dont agree with them you want to shut them down. thats right out of the liberal handbook....

all you lefties enjoying yourself bashing religion? get it out of your system?

PATHETIC!

time to remove tax exemption status? do you have a clue the advantages of this? fact is the commercial construction industry as we speak would have fallen like residential if it wasnt for that exemption. but your right, ACORN deserves it-please. talk about blinded by the light

dis-organized religion? did olby teach you that one?

im no church-goer, but i know that churches and those who frequent them do more for the poor and oppressed than any liberal could ever.

if you dont agree with them you want to shut them down. thats right out of the liberal handbook....

I have a dream. One day we will all wake up as "Rationalists" not bound by an archaic, dis- organized "religion!"

I would ask you to back up your statements but I know you have work to do.

No. He is actually much smarter and a better wordsmither than I am--he was awesome last night!

back up my statement? sure, which one?

if you speak of church construction, im in the industry and theres more church's than anything being built. all else is fed construction. at the sametime, thats normal this time of year due to their tax exemption. not that you would have a clue, your too busy bashing religious folks and playing smearing politics.

does it bother you that i cant just sit around and google articles to prove im intelligent? do you want me to write you an entitlement check?

Let me remind the knee jerk Catholic haters out there that without church lobbying you might not have a passed house bill right now. It sounds to me like the Catholic effort is consistent with President Obama's. "I laid out a very simple principle, which is this is a health care bill, not an abortion bill," Obama said. "And we're not looking to change what is the principle that has been in place for a very long time, which is federal dollars are not used to subsidize abortions,". Do you really want to let a squabble between the far left and far right sink the entire effort? If so, stay tuned because from what I see on the news it is coming down the pike in the Senate.

all you lefties enjoying yourself bashing religion? get it out of your system?

PATHETIC!

time to remove tax exemption status? do you have a clue the advantages of this? fact is the commercial construction industry as we speak would have fallen like residential if it wasnt for that exemption. but your right, ACORN deserves it-please. talk about blinded by the light

dis-organized religion? did olby teach you that one?

im no church-goer, but i know that churches and those who frequent them do more for the poor and oppressed than any liberal could ever.

if you dont agree with them you want to shut them down. thats right out of the liberal handbook....

I know it's a political hot potato, but why are they putting restrictions on medical care already?

I'm not Catholic, and I might need that procedure to save my life someday........ let's say when I'm married and really want that baby, but it ISN'T POSSIBLE. Not because I'm some breezy kneed ho like they want to make out. Sucks to be me trying to get medical care to save my life.

Science flies men to the moon, religion flies them into buildings.

Per news reports, the House bill with the Stupak amendment still allows for exemptions in the case of risk to mother's life, incest and rape.

all you lefties enjoying yourself bashing religion? get it out of your system?

PATHETIC!

time to remove tax exemption status? do you have a clue the advantages of this? fact is the commercial construction industry as we speak would have fallen like residential if it wasnt for that exemption. but your right, ACORN deserves it-please. talk about blinded by the light

dis-organized religion? did olby teach you that one?

im no church-goer, but i know that churches and those who frequent them do more for the poor and oppressed than any liberal could ever.

if you dont agree with them you want to shut them down. thats right out of the liberal handbook....

This is the type of post we can do without - blanket generalizations and name calling is unnecessary and simply illustrates your own shortcomings to the intelligent and thoughtful members of our community.
This is the last of several polite requests and warnings.

Huh? This is the politcal forum norm for the last several months!

This is the type of post we can do without - blanket generalizations and name calling is unnecessary and simply illustrates your own shortcomings to the intelligent and thoughtful members of our community.

This is the last of several polite requests and warnings.

I can't decide if I love this, or hate it. People have done some great things because of their faith, but so many pervert religion for their own ends and gains.
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