Refreshing climate science piece on BBC

An interesting listen. It is my contention and feeling that global warming...err climate change is a lot more about some making a lot of money than it is about the doom of the earth.

The inconvenient truth is it appears a large number of scientists have been involved in scientific ponzi scheme of immense proportions. My sincere thanks go out to the Russian hackers and their spot on timing that might yet help our country avoid being hijacked by a global tax. My hopes still remain that this movement, or whatever you'd like to call it, will be derailed, but there are far too many people in the world who think of themself as important that have an invested interest in this unproven theory. The most irritating part is when someone like Gore goes on an interview and says the science is in and the percentage of those that don't agree with me are equal to the number of people that still think the world is flat. Thanks Dr.....oh that's right you're not a scientist. You're the Chairman of Generation Investment Management which is a company that trades carbon offsets. The man stands to make billions of dollars from being an influential con artist, and the beauty is if the hoax is pulled off he will have to show nothing in the way of results. Sadly our President smoked the global warming doobie far too long ago to back out now. Even in the wake of all that has been exposed by the thousands of e-mails, he, Gore many others from the left have their blind folds on while making their idiot march to Copenhagen.

I spend a lot of time on the water fishing and I'd still like to see the wetherman get tomorrow right more than 10% of the time.

yes, all scientists are bible burning democrats.

Religion and Climate Change are both unproven theories that people will defend to the death.

I was listening to NPR the other morning and learned that one of the biggest deniers of Global Warming is Saudi Arabia.

Wonk Room ? Saudi Arabia Endorses Climategate: ‘There Is No Relationship Whatsoever Between Human Activities And Climate Change’

Interesting and not surprising.

G

i feel warmer

i feel warmer

I will sell you all the carbon offsets you desire at one dollar each. The more you buy, the cooler you will be. I promise.

i feel warmer

My feet are cold.

Yep, climate change is bogus. Everyone remembers the pre-Christmas monsoons right?

I don't think we should pollute our planet. I want my kids to live in a clean world. HOWEVER:

YouTube- George Carlin - Saving the Planet

Religion and Climate Change are both unproven theories that people will defend to the death.

As is the theory of evolution, the Big Bang theory, etc. But we digress.

Polluting pets: the devastating impact of man's best friend - Yahoo! News

by Isabelle Toussaint and Jurgen Hecker Isabelle Toussaint And Jurgen Hecker – Sun Dec 20, 3:23 pm ET
PARIS (AFP) – Man's best friend could be one of the environment's worst enemies, according to a new study which says the carbon pawprint of a pet dog is more than double that of a gas-guzzling sports utility vehicle.

Gives a whole new meaning to blaming it on the dog.

Big Government ? Blog Archive ? Build-A-Climate-Scare: Why You Should Boycott Build-A-Bear

The children are the future, warp their minds and let them pray to Father Gore.

Wyoming is loaded with alligator skeletons. Why?

A: The planet is dynamic. The very earth itself is moving beneath your feet.

We need to get used it. Above all, drop the pretense that we fully understand "life the universe and everything" and can model it with such certainty. Certainty has been way oversold.

If you believe that self-appointed climate experts can correctly model the heat balance of the entire planet based on very limited data, why haven't these same scientists modeled the outcome of the ping pong balls in a state run lottery? It's far less complicated.

I mentioned a few posts up that one of the biggest deniers of Global Warming is Saudi Arabia.

Here's a great article in Newsweek entitled:

GLOBAL WARMING:The Truth About Denial


Global Warming Deniers Well Funded - Newsweek.com

I find it telling about Saudi Arabia and also in this article it said that a conservative think tank long funded by ExxonMobil, offered scientists $10,000 to write articles undercutting the new report and the computer-based climate models.

I'm just sayin' there's good reason for many to not want restrictions.

I will sell you all the carbon offsets you desire at one dollar each. The more you buy, the cooler you will be. I promise.

Sadly, this is so on target. Follow the money in this climate change story. It won't lead you to Exxon-Mobil. However, it will lead you to serious conflicts of interest where major promoters of global warming are gaining huge sums of money from their "green" companies and organizations.

I mentioned a few posts up that one of the biggest deniers of Global Warming is Saudi Arabia.

Here's a great article in Newsweek entitled:

GLOBAL WARMING:The Truth About Denial


Global Warming Deniers Well Funded - Newsweek.com

I find it telling about Saudi Arabia and also in this article it said that a conservative think tank long funded by ExxonMobil, offered scientists $10,000 to write articles undercutting the new report and the computer-based climate models.

I'm just sayin' there's good reason for many to not want restrictions.

Now why would a multi-billion dollar a year company lie to us? It's clearly that loaded guy Al Gore.

Exxon Mobil year net sets mark, but profit down for quarter - Jan. 30, 2009
$45.22 billion

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$100 million

Now let's put those in visual terms:



Keep in mind the actual comparison is income versus net worth so feel free to draw your own conclusions.

Here's a link to the chart so you can view it in various other forms.

Online Charting. Futures trading and various online stock trading.

Sadly, this is so on target. Follow the money in this climate change story. It won't lead you to Exxon-Mobil. However, it will lead you to serious conflicts of interest where major promoters of global warming are gaining huge sums of money from their "green" companies and organizations.

Sorry I meant to include your quote as well in the above post.

I agree that there are benefits to many when GLOBAL WARMING is shouted - they have their special interests no doubt! So we are in agreement on that one. But it can not be ignored that many "nay-sayers" are not merely looking for the scientific truth, they are looking to protect their interests as well.

That's all I was going for.

G

Sadly, this is so on target. Follow the money in this climate change story. It won't lead you to Exxon-Mobil. However, it will lead you to serious conflicts of interest where major promoters of global warming are gaining huge sums of money from their "green" companies and organizations.

FT.com / UK - Carbon prices fall in wake of Copenhagen

you couldn't be more correct

FT.com / UK - Carbon prices fall in wake of Copenhagen

you couldn't be more correct

Your link briefly works before asking me to buy something.

Your link briefly works before asking me to buy something.

my apologies, it didn't do that the first time i visited the site, but it did when i tried it again. here is the same info, different source

BBC News - Copenhagen deal causes EU carbon price fall

The apparently puzzling thing about the anthropogenic global warming (AGW) crowd is that rather than investing a little more time and money in doing serious unbiased research into the issue, they are ready to bet the economic farm on unproven measures which could have little or no effect on climate change and simultaneously gut national economies.

CO2 has been significantly lower and higher in the past than it is now. Global temperatures are, in fact, not rising as fast as predicted and no one has a model that can be run in reverse which accurately models the climate of the past few thousand years. The models don't predict the 'little ice age' of the middle ages, the medieval warming period, farming in Greenland, etc...and in the case of climate history, there are far fewer unknowns than in the future so the models should be remarkably accurate.

Do we really know that warmer is worse? I suspect that it is, in fact a lot better than colder or an ice age (which is what the climate experts like James Hansen told us would happen back in the 80s.) Oddly enough, the fact that the net amount of glacial ice in the world is about the same, its just in different places is never mentioned. Or that the melting of the arctic will have little to no effect on ocean levels. The Arctic is ice floating on the ocean. Like ice melting in a glass of water, the level doesn't change.

The real truth of the matter is that the models are poor, the data is tainted and politics and finance have replaced science in the discussion. A lot of 'scientists' have sold their souls for the gold associated with AGW.

The rush to 'scientific consensus' and carbon credit trading is basically about wealth transfer.

Case in point. This article on the Business dealings of UN's Climate Change 'expert'. He is becoming a very wealthy man as a result of policies (theoretically) meant to mitigate AGW.