Pope sacked, protester makes first down

quiet, my lineman can't hear the count

Very tacky that people captured it on video BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAD THEIR CELL PHONES OUT AND TAPING DURING XMAS MASS AT THE VATICAN! :angry:

Very tacky that people captured it on video BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAD THEIR CELL PHONES OUT AND TAPING DURING XMAS MASS AT THE VATICAN! :angry:

Yes, you certainly wouldn't want to remember something like that. :roll:

Very tacky that people captured it on video BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAD THEIR CELL PHONES OUT AND TAPING DURING XMAS MASS AT THE VATICAN! :angry:

So we get all different camera angles. That's important if somebody wants to challenge the call.

It's a religious service in the granddaddy of them all church w/ apostles, saints, and popes buried below!

Nuns standing on chairs to see the Pope - understandable. People recording on their cell phones (which means they are on) during Christmas Mass at an incredibly holy place - not appropriate.

Plenty of photo ops outside, before, and after.

It's a religious service in the granddaddy of them all church w/ apostles, saints, and popes buried below!

Nuns standing on chairs to see the Pope - understandable. People recording on their cell phones (which means they are on) during Christmas Mass at an incredibly holy place - not appropriate.

Plenty of photo ops outside, before, and after.

The Pope has a hotline to god. If god gets all excited over meat on Friday and plastic baggies for your weenie then I'm sure he'll weigh in on cell phones in church. Until then you could let your cell phone phobia go.

P.S. Just because a cell phone is on doesn't mean it's going to ring, mine has airplane mode that turns off all transmitters so I can play games, watch movies, still use the camera, etc.

Oh yeah, since we're all up in the religious spirit I'll leave you with this:

Judge not, that ye be not judged. Matthew 7:1

As Carrie Prejean might ask, "where in the bible does it say you can't have a cell phone in church?"

The Pope has a hotline to god. If god gets all excited over meat on Friday and plastic baggies for your weenie then I'm sure he'll weigh in on cell phones in church. Until then you could let your cell phone phobia go.

P.S. Just because a cell phone is on doesn't mean it's going to ring, mine has airplane mode that turns off all transmitters so I can play games, watch movies, still use the camera, etc.

Oh yeah, since we're all up in the religious spirit I'll leave you with this:

Judge not, that ye be not judged. Matthew 7:1

I was just going to say, I don't have a god in this fight. Who cares? Let the Catholics, believers, whatever worry about their own etiquette. It's not my place to get involved. Not only that, in a crowd like that I'd be more concerned with things of the silent (but deadly) variety than somebody's ringtone.

That perfectly embalmed body in the Vatican is spoooooooooky! Other than that, I think it's a cool place ridled with a lot of controversy, just like the rest of the world.

P.S. I feel certain my phone rang during church one time. I didn't answer it, but am conscious of sliencing it now. If I was at a Mass Concert type thing, I might roll some video.

Here are some of the etiquette rules at our church that we must follow for daughter's wedding. So no cell phone videos allowed in our church.

No ?love songs,? secular or pop music is allowed. No taped music allowed in either the Sanctuary or Chapel.

The photographer is permitted to take pictures in the Narthex; however, no flashbulbs and/or any other form of lighting shall be used after the bride starts down the aisle with the exception of a picture of the bride and her escort coming in and going down the aisle. No pictures shall be made during the ceremony, except time exposures from the balcony of the Sanctuary. The photographer is cautioned to make sure that there is no noise involved in the making of time exposures, changing of film, etc., during the ceremony.

No pictures are to be taken by members of the congregation during the service.

Photographs are permissible during the recessional. The photographer may stand in the Narthex doorway for these photos.

A video camera placed on a tripod may be used in the choir area during the wedding ceremony if the equipment can be set up in such a way as not to detract from the altar area. No person may operate a video camera in the altar area. The video camera must be placed on the pulpit side of the chancel.

Video cameras may be set up on the outside aisle of the Sanctuary behind the columns and must remain stationary or placed in the balcony.
No cell phones are to be visible or audible in the sanctuary.

Here are some of the etiquette rules at our church that we must follow for daughter's wedding. So no cell phone videos allowed in our church.

No ?love songs,? secular or pop music is allowed. No taped music allowed in either the Sanctuary or Chapel.

The photographer is permitted to take pictures in the Narthex; however, no flashbulbs and/or any other form of lighting shall be used after the bride starts down the aisle with the exception of a picture of the bride and her escort coming in and going down the aisle. No pictures shall be made during the ceremony, except time exposures from the balcony of the Sanctuary. The photographer is cautioned to make sure that there is no noise involved in the making of time exposures, changing of film, etc., during the ceremony.

No pictures are to be taken by members of the congregation during the service.

Photographs are permissible during the recessional. The photographer may stand in the Narthex doorway for these photos.

A video camera placed on a tripod may be used in the choir area during the wedding ceremony if the equipment can be set up in such a way as not to detract from the altar area. No person may operate a video camera in the altar area. The video camera must be placed on the pulpit side of the chancel.

Video cameras may be set up on the outside aisle of the Sanctuary behind the columns and must remain stationary or placed in the balcony.
No cell phones are to be visible or audible in the sanctuary.

those are presbyterian rules!

The Pope has a hotline to god. If god gets all excited over meat on Friday and plastic baggies for your weenie then I'm sure he'll weigh in on cell phones in church. Until then you could let your cell phone phobia go.

P.S. Just because a cell phone is on doesn't mean it's going to ring, mine has airplane mode that turns off all transmitters so I can play games, watch movies, still use the camera, etc.

Oh yeah, since we're all up in the religious spirit I'll leave you with this:

Judge not, that ye be not judged. Matthew 7:1

It's not a "cell phone phobia", it's an ongoing frustration with the complete lack of manners many people have when using them.

The Vatican has signs posted at all the entrances telling people no cell phones, no camera flashes, to wear proper dress etc. These aren't just my arbitrary rules for proper behavior in a holy place.

those are presbyterian rules!

In our case, Methodist.

It's not a "cell phone phobia", it's an ongoing frustration with the complete lack of manners many people have when using them.

The Vatican has signs posted at all the entrances telling people no cell phones, no camera flashes, to wear proper dress etc. These aren't just my arbitrary rules for proper behavior in a holy place.

The first time we went to the Vatican, we had heard about the rules. I tell ya, you'd hate to wait in the summertime heat for hours as we did and then be turned away.

The rules from Wikipedia:

A dress code is enforced for entry into St. Peter's Basilica. The code is based upon what is considered "modest" and "appropriate" dress for visiting a Catholic church, and tourists and visitors are reminded that, although St. Peter's is an architectural and artistic monument, it is first a place of worship and prayer. The dress code forbids:

• hats for lay men inside the basilica
• shorts/skirts above the knees
• sleeveless shirts
• shirts exposing the navel
• shirts for women that expose cleavage
• shirts which contain profanity
• excessive jewellery

The use of mobile phones is also prohibited, as is smoking.

It's not a "cell phone phobia", it's an ongoing frustration with the complete lack of manners many people have when using them.

The Vatican has signs posted at all the entrances telling people no cell phones, no camera flashes, to wear proper dress etc. These aren't just my arbitrary rules for proper behavior in a holy place.

I'll remind you of that the next time you get an "important" call or text at brunch. Practice what you preach

Those rules don't mention camcorders or digital cameras. Again Christmas Mass at the Vatican is akin to a Beatles reunion concert; it's really hard to get in and most likely you'll only get to do it once. I've known people who have done it they have all said they wish they had recorded it since it was so overwhelming they couldn't remember it well.

Having said that I'm sure it's available for purchase at the Vatican gift shop on DVD and Blue-ray.

I can't post Penn and Teller videos because of all the profanity. However, go to youtube.com and type into the search box: penn teller manners Hit the search button and go to the very first video. It'll look like this:



Pure entertainment!

In our case, Methodist.


The first time we went to the Vatican, we had heard about the rules. I tell ya, you'd hate to wait in the summertime heat for hours as we did and then be turned away.

The rules from Wikipedia:

A dress code is enforced for entry into St. Peter's Basilica. The code is based upon what is considered "modest" and "appropriate" dress for visiting a Catholic church, and tourists and visitors are reminded that, although St. Peter's is an architectural and artistic monument, it is first a place of worship and prayer. The dress code forbids:

• hats for lay men inside the basilica
• shorts/skirts above the knees
• sleeveless shirts
• shirts exposing the navel
• shirts for women that expose cleavage
• shirts which contain profanity
• excessive jewellery

The use of mobile phones is also prohibited, as is smoking.

excessive jewelry

excessive jewelry

Yes but he's the mighty OZ. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Yes but he's the mighty OZ. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

he who has the gold, rulz!

he who has the gold, rulz!

Naw, I think their slogan is "He who dies (or lies) with the most boys wins".
Couldn't resist. Forgive me.

In our case, Methodist.


The first time we went to the Vatican, we had heard about the rules. I tell ya, you'd hate to wait in the summertime heat for hours as we did and then be turned away.

The rules from Wikipedia:


A dress code is enforced for entry into St. Peter's Basilica. The code is based upon what is considered "modest" and "appropriate" dress for visiting a Catholic church, and tourists and visitors are reminded that, although St. Peter's is an architectural and artistic monument, it is first a place of worship and prayer. The dress code forbids:

• hats for lay men inside the basilica
• shorts/skirts above the knees
• sleeveless shirts
• shirts exposing the navel
• shirts for women that expose cleavage
• shirts which contain profanity
• excessive jewellery

The use of mobile phones is also prohibited, as is smoking.

Interesting rules. I am 1,000% positive I didn't violate any of them and was accosted not once, but twice. One was a 'volunteer' so I easily got away. One stalked me and I had to be rude.

There was one last one staring at me, Maximilian; I actually had a drink with him and then a concert!

Lynnie - anyone who asks you to a drink/concert is not a real enforcer of the Vatican dress code! :rofl:

excessive jewelry

Good one!

Lynnie - anyone who asks you to a drink/concert is not a real enforcer of the Vatican dress code! :rofl:

You're right.....he actually just saved me from the real enforcers! It was a fun afternoon! But, then the Latin psycho babel started and I had to split.

Excessive jewelry is fine as long as you leave most of it at the alter.

Lynnie - anyone who asks you to a drink/concert is not a real enforcer of the Vatican dress code! :rofl:

Yeah, it was probably Luigi Vuittoni trying to sell you a fake handbag.:funn: