NY bans homemade goods at Bake sales

lulz - crazy!!!!!!

Could this mean the Girl Scouts will be dealing with bureaucratic resistance come next cookie season?

Bake sales in my home town changed greatly back in the 1980's. Some high and mighty sanitation inspector got a little carried away and started making food booths at local events where we would serve grilled hamburgers and cookies, be fly proof. Essentially, that meant all food booths were required to have a floor which could be mopped, walls, roof, screened windows. All of this and there had never been one reported case of bad sanitation practices or food poisoning.

Get ready. As I understand it, the new or tweaked version of the Health Care bill will also make all restaurants with more than twenty store locations, post calorie counts on all menu items. I'm not sure what happens if they add a little more cream to freshen the She Crab Soup, thus increasing the calories. Will their be calorie police monitoring all of this craziness? They don't make laws for nothing. I guess that will be another job creation bill, disguised. Attention all people, eating donuts often without routine exercise, will cause you to get fat. Do we really need laws to tell us that? HellOOOOO.

Bake sales in my home town changed greatly back in the 1980's. Some high and mighty sanitation inspector got a little carried away and started making food booths at local events where we would serve grilled hamburgers and cookies, be fly proof. Essentially, that meant all food booths were required to have a floor which could be mopped, walls, roof, screened windows. All of this and there had never been one reported case of bad sanitation practices or food poisoning.

Get ready. As I understand it, the new or tweaked version of the Health Care bill will also make all restaurants with more than twenty store locations, post calorie counts on all menu items. I'm not sure what happens if they add a little more cream to freshen the She Crab Soup, thus increasing the calories. Will their be calorie police monitoring all of this craziness? They don't make laws for nothing. I guess that will be another job creation bill, disguised.Attention all people, eating donuts often without routine exercise, will cause you to get fat. Do we really need laws to tell us that? HellOOOOO.

You criticize an imaginary "job creation bill, disguised" in this post, now let's scroll down.

Originally Posted by murray
This bill lacks any incentive to live a healthy lifestyle. For example, an extremely obese person with Diabetes, and other medical problems, will pay the same amount, maybe less if they cannot work due to their obesity, than a healthy person who chooses to eat right, not smoke, not drink, exercises, etc. Seems to me that as Americans get more and more overweight and we as a nation, exercise even less, costs of healthcare will increase accordingly. Obviously, many people choose their lifestyle, and they have no incentive to eat well and exercise regularly. I think if the gov't is going to shake things up with this Health Care law, they should give incentives ($$$) to people who don't have claims, as in the form of a rebate. If I knew that I could get paid to be more healthy, I would do so. Perhaps make it enough of a rebate to cover gym membership or fitness classes, or buy a nice bicycle. In this bill, I see no rewards for those who choose the healthy lifestyle. I was always taught that the best way to enforce a good habit is to reward it.

Your suggestion here from another thread will require some type of "job creation bill, disguised" to make sure these purchases are genuine. The difference here is you want the govt. to give you money for activities you are presently engaged in.

NY is the quintessential nanny state. It's too bad really, I've always wanted to live there for a period but the tax system is just too punishing. I can't even work for companies there because the state taxes income even when you don't live there.

I love me some FD&C Yellow #6 and maltodextran

Honestly, I am surprised the kids can even have any bake sales with all the en vogue food allergy hysteria.

Urban Dictionary: pussification

1. pussification (noun): the state in which a society becomes less and less tough. This noun's originator is the famous comedian George Carlin.
"We are undergoing a pussification of our entire society."

I don't think govt should be able to ban bake sales. I do believe govt should be able to require restaurants to post calorie counts. Perhaps I too have become pussified. But I believe the obesity epidemic in the US is caused by what big companies are putting in food to raise margins, not from what PTA members and soccer parents are putting in cupcakes.

I don't think govt should be able to ban bake sales. I do believe govt should be able to require restaurants to post calorie counts. Perhaps I too have become pussified. But I believe the obesity epidemic in the US is caused by what big companies are putting in food to raise margins, not from what PTA members and soccer parents are putting in cupcakes.

I agree with accurate labeling too. You should know that a blooming onion is about 2500 calories or some outrageous number and maybe 30 grams of saturated fat. That's not pussification. That's just part of harm reduction for the bold adventurous diner who wants to live on the edge. Then you know you need to drink a 1.5 liter bottle of red wine to unclog those arteries. (might be good to start off with a Prilosec or 2) So yes, information is good, I'll go along with that.

I agree with accurate labeling too. You should know that a blooming onion is about 2500 calories or some outrageous number and maybe 30 grams of saturated fat. That's not pussification. That's just part of harm reduction for the bold adventurous diner who wants to live on the edge. Then you know you need to drink a 1.5 liter bottle of red wine to unclog those arteries. (might be good to start off with a Prilosec or 2) So yes, information is good, I'll go along with that.

I agree because I want to know. I read labels at the store and would do the same when eating out. Many have this online, but I never know where I am going till I end up there. This would make it easier.

If you have 20 or more locations, you are serving set and mass produced recipes and should be able to easily provide calorie info. It's insane what some foods contain as far as fat and calories.

And I don't think limiting bake sales of certain items to once a month OR after 6 pm (when most extracurricular practices get out and competitions are going on) is exactly a totalitarian police state move.

Yes, the sales do raise a bunch a money, but they aren't forbidding the sales. You can sell food every single day as part of a fundraising effort as long as it is food that meets certain dietary guidelines.

Considering 40% of the kids in the district are overweight/obese I don't see anything wrong with making healthier food available on campus. (Not sure exactly how healthy some of the "approved" processed foods are, but it sounds like they do at least meet certain nutritional guidelines.)

They are way off in their calculations of of what they are considering obese. I have never seen an obese kid in New York City. Matter of fact, NYC is land of skinny models and most of the restaurants had caloric content labels or signs in their establishments way before any other State and before there were any laws. People in NYC are very cognizant of their weight. Kids probably burn more calories than most just by walking or commuting to school.

Does anyone really think that the allowable foods, like Dorito, Pop Tarts and Bagged Chips is healthier than a homemade snack that has no preservatives and all of the other crap they put in food?

Government needs to let parents do the parenting and kids be kids.

As I said, I question how healthy some of the manufactured snacks really are, but at least they have to meet calorie, fat, and sodium guidelines. Some of the items they mentioned in the article were definitely worse than some of the manufactured items - pies, cakes, cupcakes, bars full of chocolate, brownies etc.

There ARE fat and/or unhealthy people/kids in NYC and I see nothing wrong with trying to promote healthier diets and lifestyles.

Kids continue to get less exercise, be more sedentary, weigh more, and eat less nutritious foods. Kudos to this school district for trying to make some small and IMO very reasonable changes to combat that.

You criticize an imaginary "job creation bill, disguised" in this post, now let's scroll down.




Your suggestion here from another thread will require some type of "job creation bill, disguised" to make sure these purchases are genuine. The difference here is you want the govt. to give you money for activities you are presently engaged in.

Not so, rebates in my post above would cover it. AND, because there were no claims from those who would receive the rebate, there would likely be a decrease in the number of claims handlers.

We are not talking about "my personal activities." Maybe you are, but I'm not. I'm talking about giving people an incentive not to only be healthy, but to also cut healthcare expenses for the country as a whole. If we are a healthier nation, we will spend less on healthcare. One problem with the current way we treat health care is that we treat symptoms of the problem rather than treating the actual problem. Doctors can treat symptoms. They can also tell a overweight smoker ways to improve their health. However, there doesn't seem to be any incentive for the person to change their lifestyle, exercise routine and eating habits -- it is obvious that living longer is not as important as money to many people.

Not so, rebates in my post above would cover it. AND, because there were no claims from those who would receive the rebate, there would likely be a decrease in the number of claims handlers.

We are not talking about "my personal activities." Maybe you are, but I'm not. I'm talking about giving people an incentive not to only be healthy, but to also cut healthcare expenses for the country as a whole. If we are a healthier nation, we will spend less on healthcare. One problem with the current way we treat health care is that we treat symptoms of the problem rather than treating the actual problem. Doctors can treat symptoms. They can also tell a overweight smoker ways to improve their health. However, there doesn't seem to be any incentive for the person to change their lifestyle, exercise routine and eating habits -- it is obvious that living longer is not as important as money to many people.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this. Now that many more people will be able to see a doctor for preventative medicine let's hope a change in lifestyle will soon follow for those who smoke, over eat, and never get off the sofa except for a snack and a beer (forget the snack and beer part, that would be me). In order for some people to change their lifestyle they just have to be told they should do it by someone other than a spouse.