Would Somebody Pls Plug Palin's Hole?

It says a lot that Palin feels the need to use Facebook and Twitter posts when she has a national media platform at her disposal - someone was questioning that when I was channel surfing last night.

And the last time I checked, it wasn't the ENVIRONMENTALISTS lying about the safety of oil drilling and I think we would all like a few MORE regulations.

Outsourcing energy development? What a crock.

Yes, another Palin thread. Seriously, how so many continue to be enamored with this moron is beyond me.

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Sarah Palin Blames Environmentalists For Gulf Oil Disaster


In her latest note on Facebook, Sarah Palin is blaming "extreme 'environmentalists'" for causing the gulf oil disaster that has been unfolding for over a month. Her logic is that because environmentalists push for tougher drilling regulations onshore in places like the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (also known as ANWR) it forces oil companies to explore deeper offshore drilling which has more risks.
Palin writes:

With [environmentalists'] nonsensical efforts to lock up safer drilling areas, all you're doing is outsourcing energy development, which makes us more controlled by foreign countries, less safe, and less prosperous on a dirtier planet. Your hypocrisy is showing. You're not preventing environmental hazards; you're outsourcing them and making drilling more dangerous. Extreme deep water drilling is not the preferred choice to meet our country's energy needs, but your protests and lawsuits and lies about onshore and shallow water drilling have locked up safer areas. It's catching up with you. The tragic, unprecedented deep water Gulf oil spill proves it.
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Who is hypocritical?

Her husband worked for one of those "outsourced" companies for 18 years. Betcha can't find any quotes from her dissing them while Toddy boy brought home their dirty money.....

We're all to Blame

All of us who use oil/gas products are to blame. We, the consumers, buy the stuff so obviously they will drill for it SOMEWHERE. The oil is in the earth for a reason, and we humans just rape the earth without first knowing what kind of calamities we may cause on a large or small scale. Even the mere extraction of the stuff, without any spill, may cause ecological damage that we are unaware of until it's too late.

Nobody should be pointing their fingers at anyone else...we are ALL to blame.....

There is some validity to this arguement. Deep water drilling is taking place because shallower areas and areas on land are off limits. The oil company's go where they can drill

However, this is temporary in nature. In time, all areas will get drilled as world reserves dry up. Moratoriums are temporary measures. Last summer was a perfect example of what will happen as we approach peak oil. Ten dollar gas, higher consumer goods prices, utility bill increases, ... in time, all moratoriums will be rescended and we will be drilling for oil where ever we can find it.

All of us who use oil/gas products are to blame. We, the consumers, buy the stuff so obviously they will drill for it SOMEWHERE. The oil is in the earth for a reason, and we humans just rape the earth without first knowing what kind of calamities we may cause on a large or small scale. Even the mere extraction of the stuff, without any spill, may cause ecological damage that we are unaware of until it's too late.

Nobody should be pointing their fingers at anyone else...we are ALL to blame.....

I understand what you are saying but if we all just quiet down because we all use oil then the status quo is maintained.

If folks were provided with ample alternatives, they would utilize them. If you live in an inner city with no access to fruits and vegetables and all there is to purchase is fast food- well, you gotta eat and you will end up eating fast food more often than you'd prefer. But meanwhile, it would be productive to voice your concerns to business leaders, elected officials, etc. to try to facilitate change. If enough people express their concerns and their hunger for something else (even if it's while they continue to eat fast food) then eventually someone will look to open up a healthy alternative to serve the market. And perhaps they could acquire some funding or backing from the local politicos to help get them there and ensure their success.

There is some validity to this arguement. Deep water drilling is taking place because shallower areas and areas on land are off limits. The oil company's go where they can drill

Shopper,
Palin's argument is just as ludicrous as if I said that locals who oppose 24 hour liquor sales are to blame when someone leaves the 30A area, gets tanked at AJ's on Okaloosa Island (they are open til 6am, I believe) and then kills someone on their drive home.

However, this is temporary in nature. In time, all areas will get drilled as world reserves dry up. Moratoriums are temporary measures. Last summer was a perfect example of what will happen as we approach peak oil. Ten dollar gas, higher consumer goods prices, utility bill increases, ... in time, all moratoriums will be rescended and we will be drilling for oil where ever we can find it.

It might end up this way. But it does NOT need to be this way. We have options.

Oil is the past - hell, BPsolar is a major player in alternative energy and Wal-mart is one of their customers.

We have all the technology now to drastically reduce our oil consumption and a wide variety of behavioral changes we could all make to use less oil and energy - we just have to choose to do so.

Sarah Palin needs to KEEP ON talking, yep both she and Rush--they are the voice that has overtaken the Republican Party (soon to be know as the The Republican'T Party.)

There are no other intelligent, conservative, Republicans with balls (or Michael Steele) to tell those 2 clowns when they should shut up...they are all afraid of them..

Let 'em both continue to make horse's a_ _ _ s of themselves and support their favorite candidates (whack jobs and racists). Yea, fortunately only 23 % of all Americans will always believe whatever drivel they expouse....so, in the end, I say this will help keep the power strings on the Left in both 2010 and 2012.

What do Poo and Pee and think?

What do Poo and Pee and think?

I understand what you are saying but if we all just quiet down because we all use oil then the status quo is maintained.

I'm with ya there! As an organic farmer/rancher, I try to promote solar energy and chemical-free living. But prices are high for these items. How 'bout a government ban on solar-panel price-gouging! (More than 80% of the world's solar panels are made in China anyway! Ugh)

I have a large family, but maybe if I got a horse and buggy to cruise around in, more people would too??? I have threatened to do more than once LOL!

What do Poo and Pee and think?

This is like blaming establishments with private restrooms for the fact that I peed in your jacuzzi.

This is like blaming blaming establishments with private restrooms for the fact that I peed in your jacuzzi.

True dat! What Pee said!

All of us who use oil/gas products are to blame. We, the consumers, buy the stuff so obviously they will drill for it SOMEWHERE. The oil is in the earth for a reason, and we humans just rape the earth without first knowing what kind of calamities we may cause on a large or small scale. Even the mere extraction of the stuff, without any spill, may cause ecological damage that we are unaware of until it's too late.

Nobody should be pointing their fingers at anyone else...we are ALL to blame.....

If you want to take the blame go ahead but count me out. This same silly logic would apply if a truck hauling a tanker full of milk crashes into a day care and we proceed to blame ourselves because we drink milk and have children.

If you want to take the blame go ahead but count me out. This same silly logic would apply if a truck hauling a tanker full of milk crashes into a day care and we proceed to blame ourselves because we drink milk and have children.

Indeed, or truck hauling boxes of Depends crashes into a nursing home and we proceed to blame ourselves because we urinate and have parents.

GEO SAID: "Yes, another Palin thread. Seriously, how so many continue to be enamored with this moron is beyond me.
In her latest note on Facebook, Sarah Palin is blaming "extreme 'environmentalists'" for causing the gulf oil disaster that has been unfolding for over a month. Her logic is that because environmentalists push for tougher drilling regulations onshore in places like the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (also known as ANWR) it forces oil companies to explore deeper offshore drilling which has more risks."

YZARCTOO RESPONSE TO GEO:
I personally don't like the idea of drilling off shore...would hate to be sitting on the beach and seeing oil drill platforms, and worse yet seeing tar balls and oil gunk wash up on the beach that I love and live by. I do understand what Palin is saying, ...many of the environmentalists have imposed rules and regulations based on their extreme views...I also blame the greedy Americans, we build homes that aren't energy efficient, we drive gas guzzling cars, we use and waste energy, energy that we have to purchase from others. We also ignore the other energy sources that we could seek out...as long as Americans don't curb their energy desires and needs... then there will be more drilling, and chances of more "accidents". Our own goverment agencies and Congress (both Dems and Rep) are at fault too...for not regulating the Oil companies...so the blame is ours...we all are responsible for this spill.

I still get a kick out of many of you...Palin haters, you can't let it go, you still read about her, quote her, follow her on Facebook,and diss her calling her a (moron?)....I still believe that many of you are deep down worried about her, maybe you even fear , who knows maybe you have a problem with an outspoken woman,...she doing what she does best... she's "pushing your buttons." (and driving you crazy) You all spend too much time cutting her down, or blaming George B., that you ignore your own man Obama...doesn't it bother any of you the things that are going on in the White House and are coming out in the news (and not just on FOX), ...doesn't it hurt or isn't it a disappoint for you to know that the changes he promised aren't happening, and exactly where is all that Hope? Do you just shut out that part, avoid it, ignore it...maybe some of your "Palin frustrations rants" should be directed to Obama too. Do any of you have the courage to do that? How can you not speak up...you all have strong opinions about other things.
By the way, I find it funny that "angry rectum", found it necessary to create an account "yzarcpoo" and another one called "sweetpee". I must have hit a nerve for him to go to that much trouble. All I can say is keep posting...

Hi Yzarctoo,

Since I am the original poster I feel compelled to respond.

For starters, I don't hate Palin. I'm trying to eradicate hate in my life. But as you said, I do fear her and her influence. I believe she is the spokesperson for much of what's wrong with this country and is the epitome of what ails the Republican party.

I don't follow her (or any politican) on Twitter or Facebook. But I do read and find disturbing the news articles that quote her saying things like environmentalists are to blame for this disaster. Anyone who believes that *is* a moron in my opinion. To reiterate my analogy from earlier in this thread-

Palin's argument is just as ludicrous as if I said that locals who oppose 24 hour liquor sales are to blame when someone leaves the 30A area, gets tanked at AJ's on Okaloosa Island and then kills someone on their drive home.

I voted for Obama. But I am very disappointed in many of his decisions so far. I have no issue discussing his shortcomings on an Obama thread. This is a Palin thread.

I find myself viewing Palin with the same uneasy fascination that I normally reserve for random crazies on the street who talk with lamp posts...The simple fact that any sane human could take her ramblings seriously disturbs me greatly.

Dougiebaby says it perfectly. once again. there is really nothing to add about her so I won't.

but I do want to say that to those who say we are ALL to blame, well, blaming isn't very useful. yes, we are all oil dependent - the whole world is. I've had someone say to me that Florida doesn't want offshore drilling but we drive cars so we aren't environmentalists we just don't want driling in our backyard. hell yeah! if we don't protect our environment, who the hell will? in fact we're seeing that the drilling taking place far away from our shores is about to impact us significantly. we care greatly about the planet, not just our shores. but if we don't take special interest in our shores then they will be no more.

yes, we drive cars. and millions of tourists drive cars to our great state. but most of us car drivers also want and expect and vote for progress in new energy sources. the reduction of fuel dependency. better transportation. where is our high speed rail system? humans have great capacity for progress and advancement (oil use for energy was and is progress by the way, its just that apparently we don't know much about protecting the planet while drilling her, and we don't know much about monitoring our usage).

so, I'm just saying let's not blame. let's support everything we can to go to the next level - reducing fuel use and finding new sources of energy. all while protecting our precious environment. who says we can't drive a car and protect our environment at the same time?

sorry geo for dissing the Palin subject of this thread but I don't listen to a thing she has to say much less respond to it.

Dougiebaby says it perfectly. once again. there is really nothing to add about her so I won't.

but I do want to say that to those who say we are ALL to blame, well, blaming isn't very useful. yes, we are all oil dependent - the whole world is. I've had someone say to me that Florida doesn't want offshore drilling but we drive cars so we aren't environmentalists we just don't want driling in our backyard. hell yeah! if we don't protect our environment, who the hell will? in fact we're seeing that the drilling taking place far away from our shores is about to impact us significantly. we care greatly about the planet, not just our shores. but if we don't take special interest in our shores then they will be no more.

yes, we drive cars. and millions of tourists drive cars to our great state. but most of us car drivers also want and expect and vote for progress in new energy sources. the reduction of fuel dependency. better transportation. where is our high speed rail system? humans have great capacity for progress and advancement (oil use for energy was and is progress by the way, its just that apparently we don't know much about protecting the planet while drilling her, and we don't know much about monitoring our usage).

so, I'm just saying let's not blame. let's support everything we can to go to the next level - reducing fuel use and finding new sources of energy. all while protecting our precious environment. who says we can't drive a car and protect our environment at the same time?

sorry geo for dissing the Palin subject of this thread but I don't listen to a thing she has to say much less respond to it.

Some of us in Sowal have thought "wouldn't it be fantastic, if we had a high speed rail terminal where the new airport is".,.,most of our visitors come from the SE and want to drive to the beach--we have marketed ourselves as a "drive to" destination.

Now, if St Joe had anted up for a high speed terminal--the hub of the SE--with service to all the cities that are home to our regular tourists and worked to improve the infrastructure to and from and at, both the VPS and PFN airports, I think we would have had a much more workable system.

There could have been an auto-train component for those who still wanted to bring their vehicles; and there could have been an effort to support advancement of hybrid rental vehicles at the terminal; there could have been a research/academic incentive to find cleaner fuels for the trains; and lessening our need for jet fuel....and all of us could enjoy the calmer pace of train travel that is so wonderful in other countries in the world...heck, there probably could have been a way to build a high speed train system that would parallel highway 20 from the VPS airport...

I find myself viewing Palin with the same uneasy fascination that I normally reserve for random crazies on the street who talk with lamp posts...The simple fact that any sane human could take her ramblings seriously disturbs me greatly.

Where there is no vision, the people will perish.....

I'm not sure why people are trying to make this a polarized issue. There are 3800 oil rigs in the Gulf right now. They are not going away. They are crucial to our energy needs. Period. BUT, and this is a huge BUT, they need to be regulated and SUPERVISED MORE CLOSELY. This seems fairly obvious to me. Maybe, some of the layed-off oil workers can be retrained into a top-notch crew of PREVENTIVE SUPERVISORS. (Sorry I'm yelling so much-must be oil related stress) I do think that oil drilling should be banned off the coast of Florida, but it simply has to continue in TX and LA under adult supervision.

I find myself viewing Palin with the same uneasy fascination that I normally reserve for random crazies on the street who talk with lamp posts...The simple fact that any sane human could take her ramblings seriously disturbs me greatly.

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