Tea Party Racist?

I don't know. He hasn't gotten much backlash for anything else he's said. Do you think his free pass has expired?

I happen to think that the TPers divide the Republican party such that an electable Republican Presidential candidate is unlikely to be nominated. Remember how a lot of McCain hating Republicans voted for lost cause Huckabee in the primaries? This in spite of the fact that Romney was the most electable Republican. If the Huckabe supporters had gone with Romney, we might have a Republican president today. I doubt that he would have picked a complete yahoo like Palin for a running mate as did McCain.

Huckabee wasn't a TPer, but he was a strong alternative that appealed to the Republican base, who essentially weakened the platform in the general election by helping a very weak candidate (McCain) get elected. The Tpers serve the same function whether they know it or not. While they are not all racist, they have exceeded the critical mass for racism. They stand no chance of fielding a strong presidential candidate, but they should do well in the primaries and may help steer support away from an electable Republican candidate. Should a TPer actually win the Republican Presidential nomination, he/she would not stand a chance in the general election. If you need proof, just look at the map. So it's of little benefit right now for Biden to bash a contingency that essentially weakens (disperses) his opposition.

I happen to think that the TPers divide the Republican party such that an electable Republican candidate is unlikely to be nominated. Remember how a lot of McCain hating Republicans voted for lost cause Huckabee in the primaries? This in spite of the fact that Romney was the most electable Republican. If the Huckabe supporters had gone with Romney, we might have a Republican president today. I doubt that he would have picked a complete yahoo like Palin for a running mate as did McCain.

Huckabee wasn't a TPer, but he was a strong alternative that appealed to the Republican base, who essentially weakened the platform in the general election by helping a very weak candidate (McCain) get elected. The Tpers serve the same function whether they know it or not. While they are not all racist, they have exceeded the critical mass for racism. They stand no chance of fielding a strong presidential candidate, but they should do well in the primaries and may help steer support away from an electable Republican candidate. Should a TPer actually win the Republican Presidential nomination, he/she would not stand a chance in the general election. If you need proof, just look at the map. So it's of little benefit right now for Biden to bash a contingency that essentially weakens (disperses) his opposition.

I would agree. Most of America is in the middle, not at either end. (Although much of the world considers what we call 'The Left' to be right-of-center.) That's why really left-wing candidates like Kerry or McGovern or right-wing ones like Goldwater (although that was more perception than reality) do so poorly. Clinton figured this out and moved himself rightwards towards the center and that move paid off well for him. Hillary understands this too. Gore wasn't perceived as really left-ist, but that election outcome was 'odd'.

I would guess that most moderate voters would now perceive Obama as more left-of-center than they did during the election.

If the Republicans end up nominating a really ultra-right candidate in 2012, that will be a pretty clear signal that the investors (big donors) who are pretty much behind all of the candidates have decided that Obama gets a second term. If not, then we'll know that he hasn't pleased them enough. In the long run, we won't have much input in the matter.

Racists come in all colors and wear many hats. :roll:

One might conclude that is why AC specifically mentioned white racists and white hoods.

One might conclude that is why AC specifically mentioned white racists and white hoods.

Nothing to conclude SWGA, AC just tries to stir up folks and make outlandish and "tr-o-lle" type comments...surprised Kurt hasn't sent him out to the barn to pick his own switch yet. I personally was offended by his "OPINION" or rather his rant.

See ya see ya wouldn't want to be ya!


Tea Party leader says he's done talking about race controversy - CNN.com

The National Tea Party Federation, an organization that represents the Tea Party political movement around the country, has expelled Williams and his Tea Party Express organization because of the inflammatory blog post Williams wrote last week, federation spokesman David Webb said Sunday.

Tea Party Not a 'Racist Organization,' Biden Says

It's nice to see that the VP and the President can realize a few elements of something do not represent the entire situation.

Tea Party Not a 'Racist Organization,' Biden Says

One might conclude that is why AC specifically mentioned white racists and white hoods.

Then one might conclude that he is as closed minded as I thought. Liberal in his own mind.

I apologize, I did mispeak..there REALLY are all kinds of racism! In fact, they are right here in NW Fla.... the Republican based Tea Party has some very "interesting" and noteworthy speakers on the agenda....


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Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said the group Emerald Coast Tea Party Patriots has invited Brigitte Gabriel, the head of the anti-Islam hate group ACT! for America, to be the keynote speaker at its ?U.S. Constitution Freedom Rally?
on August 21 in Fort Walton Beach, Fla.

Great move for the movement in expelling the offender. I think this action sends a strong message that racism of any kind isn't tolerated. Kudos for the Tea Party in setting this example and precedence!

I apologize, I did mispeak..there REALLY are all kinds of racism! In fact, they are right here in NW Fla.... the Republican based Tea Party has some very "interesting" and noteworthy speakers on the agenda....


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Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said the group Emerald Coast Tea Party Patriots has invited Brigitte Gabriel, the head of the anti-Islam hate group ACT! for America, to be the keynote speaker at its ?U.S. Constitution Freedom Rally?
on August 21 in Fort Walton Beach, Fla.

Wrong link Apha, couldn't make it work

...you don't fool anyone with your phoney I'm sorry and then use bold, colorful text and then emphasized the word HATE....Brigitte has a lot to say, she is not afraid to say it, she might not be proper in how she says it...but I do admire the courage she displays to say it. As Americans we better listen...because these radical Muslins groups that take their religion to the extreme side...do have a goal...they wish to destroy us...and are willing to do it even if it takes years or even generations...they have no remorse, they are willing to trade their own life to kill us, they kill their own with no remorse...these are dangerous times for all of us throughout the world ...and Brigitte is out there trying to warn and inform us. I agree she is harsh, perhaps not political correct, but her information she is trying to relay to us is valid and based on personal knowledge. I for one would love to hear what she has to say.

Wrong link Apha, couldn't make it work

...you don't fool anyone with your phoney I'm sorry and then use bold, colorful text and then emphasized the word HATE....Brigitte has a lot to say, she is not afraid to say it, she might not be proper in how she says it...but I do admire the courage she displays to say it. As Americans we better listen...because these radical Muslins groups that take their religion to the extreme side...do have a goal...they wish to destroy us...and are willing to do it even if it takes years or even generations...they have no remorse, they are willing to trade their own life to kill us, they kill their own with no remorse...these are dangerous times for all of us throughout the world ...and Brigitte is out there trying to warn and inform us. I agree she is harsh, perhaps not political correct, but her information she is trying to relay to us is valid and based on personal knowledge. I for one would love to hear what she has to say.

IIRC the "Radical Muslim" percentage of actual Muslims is smaller than the "Radical Christians" percentage of actual Christians.

Radical Christians would be those that shoot abortion doctors to demonstrate the "sanctity of life", want to go back to the good old days of the Crusades, and subscribe to a literal interpretation of the bible.

Lumping a very small minority in with the rest is no better than making the blanket statement that "all tea partier's are racist white thugs".

After looking at her website the only thing I can conclude is that she's got a thing for David Horowitz and seems to be really into pushing his books.

IIRC the "Radical Muslim" percentage of actual Muslims is smaller than the "Radical Christians" percentage of actual Christians.

Radical Christians would be those that shoot abortion doctors to demonstrate the "sanctity of life", want to go back to the good old days of the Crusades, and subscribe to a literal interpretation of the bible.

Lumping a very small minority in with the rest is no better than making the blanket statement that "all tea partier's are racist white thugs".

After looking at her website the only thing I can conclude is that she's got a thing for David Horowitz and seems to be really into pushing his books.

I totally agree that judging a group by the actions of a few is wrong, but interested in where you get your stats that there are more radical Christian groups than radical Muslim groups.

I would think both are equally a very small percentage of the total.

IIRC the "Radical Muslim" percentage of actual Muslims is smaller than the "Radical Christians" percentage of actual Christians.

Radical Christians would be those that shoot abortion doctors to demonstrate the "sanctity of life", want to go back to the good old days of the Crusades, and subscribe to a literal interpretation of the bible.

Lumping a very small minority in with the rest is no better than making the blanket statement that "all tea partier's are racist white thugs".

After looking at her website the only thing I can conclude is that she's got a thing for David Horowitz and seems to be really into pushing his books.

There are 2.1 billion Christians in the world and 1.5 billion Muslims. (link) Yet you believe that there are 33% more Christians shooting abortion doctors than there are Muslims setting off suicide bombs and IEDs.

I'd really like to see the study that uncovered those numbers.