Now I understand why it appeared that Obama had the press in his pocket...not only in his pocket, but actual working for him, planning their reports talking points, agreeing to ignoring certain stories, even plotting take downs of other news group... but worse yet plotting against "Obama Enemies" by using that over used racist label. Have seen that tactic even here on the forums. It will be interested to see how some of my fellow posters justify this group, respond, and defend this group... if interested you can read some of their shared emails on The Daily Caller. Just google it.
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Beach Fanatic
Political hacks pretending to be journalists.
The Smoking Gun For Media Bias
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Journo-Gate: For decades, moderates and conservatives have been derided and ridiculed for complaining about the mainstream media's pervasive liberal bias. As it turns out, however, their worst fears were true.
If you don't know about Journolist, you should. It's a semi-secret listserv maintained by Washington Post columnist Ezra Klein. Don't bother to try to log on. If they want you, they'll ask you to take part. No outsiders need apply.
And who uses it? Almost exclusively liberal journalists and left-leaning movers and shakers. Sound innocuous? It isn't.
Journolist has become a forum for lefty journalists to talk about how to push their progressive agenda on America, protect President Obama and hurt his foes. It is a safe-space for the often-vile expression of hatred toward conservatives and their ideas.
It all came to light a few weeks ago when news broke that then-Washington Post writer David Weigel, hired to cover the conservative movement for the Post, had made disparaging comments about those he covered on Journolist.
Weigel's remarks were bad enough. But in the ensuing weeks, other comments emerged that made it clear his comments weren't atypical. Not only do the liberal journalists despise conservatives and their non-progressive vision for America, but they actively colluded ? one might say plotted ? to undercut them.
This isn't journalism. It's political activism.
What's disappointing is not just the lie that journalists put forth about being "objective." That's long since been proved false by survey after survey showing that members of the media are not only overwhelmingly Democratic in their political orientation but also far to the left of average Americans on virtually every major social and economic issue, from tax cuts to abortion.
No, the biggest disappointment is the nastiness they appear to harbor toward right-leaning journalist colleagues.
During the 2008 debate over the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, President Obama's personal pastor who repeatedly expressed his contempt for America in shockingly racist terms, some on Journolist suggested ways to squelch coverage. As Spencer Ackerman of the inaptly named Washington Independent suggested, "What is necessary is to raise the cost on the right of going after the left.
... Take one of them ? Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares ? and call them racists."
When ABC News' Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos dared to ask Obama about his longtime ties to Wright, Richard Kim of the Nation called Stephanopoulos a "disgusting little rat snake."
The Smoking Gun For Media Bias
?
Journo-Gate: For decades, moderates and conservatives have been derided and ridiculed for complaining about the mainstream media's pervasive liberal bias. As it turns out, however, their worst fears were true.
If you don't know about Journolist, you should. It's a semi-secret listserv maintained by Washington Post columnist Ezra Klein. Don't bother to try to log on. If they want you, they'll ask you to take part. No outsiders need apply.
And who uses it? Almost exclusively liberal journalists and left-leaning movers and shakers. Sound innocuous? It isn't.
Journolist has become a forum for lefty journalists to talk about how to push their progressive agenda on America, protect President Obama and hurt his foes. It is a safe-space for the often-vile expression of hatred toward conservatives and their ideas.
It all came to light a few weeks ago when news broke that then-Washington Post writer David Weigel, hired to cover the conservative movement for the Post, had made disparaging comments about those he covered on Journolist.
Weigel's remarks were bad enough. But in the ensuing weeks, other comments emerged that made it clear his comments weren't atypical. Not only do the liberal journalists despise conservatives and their non-progressive vision for America, but they actively colluded ? one might say plotted ? to undercut them.
This isn't journalism. It's political activism.
What's disappointing is not just the lie that journalists put forth about being "objective." That's long since been proved false by survey after survey showing that members of the media are not only overwhelmingly Democratic in their political orientation but also far to the left of average Americans on virtually every major social and economic issue, from tax cuts to abortion.
No, the biggest disappointment is the nastiness they appear to harbor toward right-leaning journalist colleagues.
During the 2008 debate over the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, President Obama's personal pastor who repeatedly expressed his contempt for America in shockingly racist terms, some on Journolist suggested ways to squelch coverage. As Spencer Ackerman of the inaptly named Washington Independent suggested, "What is necessary is to raise the cost on the right of going after the left.
... Take one of them ? Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares ? and call them racists."
When ABC News' Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos dared to ask Obama about his longtime ties to Wright, Richard Kim of the Nation called Stephanopoulos a "disgusting little rat snake."
SoWal Insider
I was curious when this would show up. Generally speaking, Ezra Klein and the journalists and bloggers who got involved in this were really quite stupid, they should have realized their private conversations would ultimately leak out. Overall though we already knew that the liberal media was, well, liberally biased, so this just helps to prove the point.
It is a little scary reading some of the things these folks are suggesting, but overall, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
It is a little scary reading some of the things these folks are suggesting, but overall, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
Banned
Now I understand why it appeared that Obama had the press in his pocket...not only in his pocket, but actual working for him, planning their reports talking points, agreeing to ignoring certain stories, even plotting take downs of other news group... but worse yet plotting against "Obama Enemies" by using that over used racist label. Have seen that tactic even here on the forums. It will be interested to see how some of my fellow posters justify this group, respond, and defend this group... if interested you can read some of their shared emails on The Daily Caller. Just google it.
I don't think I'll defend anything, but merely state that I'm totally unsympathetic to your cause whatever that might be.
Beach Fanatic
These journolists are writhing in agony over the Tea Party movement. For the first time since The American Revolution people throughout America are sick of this crap and don't intend to tolerate it any longer. All of the journolist plotting, race-baiting, lies and suppression of important stories are back-firing, finally, and they will get their just deserts and undo the democrat party along with them.
Moderator
I'm sorry, but branding somebody a "racist", today, has the same effect as thumbing your nose and saying "nanny nanny boo boo". It is the most overused and misused label there is, now. I wish everybody was required to go back and learn what it truly means. I bet a lot of people would be shocked to see how the term has morphed into a catch all word that has lost most of its meaning...
Beach Fanatic
It is a little scary reading some of the things these folks are suggesting, but overall, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
No surprise here. Figured this out when 150 "journolists" hot-footed it to Wasilla to dumpster dive through the Palin's garbage cans and not one went to Chicago.
Banned
I'm sorry, but branding somebody a "racist", today, has the same effect as thumbing your nose and saying "nanny nanny boo boo". It is the most overused and misused label there is, now. I wish everybody was required to go back and learn what it truly means. I bet a lot of people would be shocked to see how the term has morphed into a catch all word that has lost most of its meaning...
Racism is still with us. The problem with overusing it is you might not recognize it when it's staring you in the face.
Moderator
Racism is still with us. The problem with overusing it is you might not recognize it when it's staring you in the face.
Yes, it is. I recognize it. I won't go into the details of my family's relationship with the King family (yes, THAT King family), but I stand firm in staying that the racist label has been bastardized to the point of being close to insignificant. People who throw it around use it because they know there is a perceived stigma attached to being labeled a racist, or they have no idea what it really means.
Beach Lover
Not disagreeing with any of the racist word comments as we, as adults, have already been formed, and nothing will change bias opinions built into the person. I hate the word personally, and try to avoid using it although many on the forum tend to throw it out when they are at a lost as how to explain away another's comment. I have been reading the Journolist emails as they are being released. It is indeed sad that our news relayers, who many depended to get their news from, were being led like little non-thinking dupes down a road believing the garbage that these guys were spewing. The hate again Sarah and her family started right there in that pool of haters as soon as she appeared on the screen. I consider their actions a war on the American People, they were trying to fix the election. This last election has really tipped the scale as far as questionable practices...Acorn stuff, dead voters, bias media doing smear campaigns. Makes me wonder, was Obama really the right one.
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SoWal Insider
"If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they've put upon us. Instead, take one of them -- Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares -- and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country?"
The left wing "race card" conspiracy goes way back. Liberals have been using it as a weapon for years. (As some of the leaked Jounrolist emails prove.) "Just call them racists".. that's the idea. Whether it's true or not is irrelevant, you use it to undermine the credibility of the opposition. In the end though, it's sort of like crying wolf, the claim looses any meaning.
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Beach Lover
I'm sorry, but branding somebody a "racist", today, has the same effect as thumbing your nose and saying "nanny nanny boo boo". It is the most overused and misused label there is, now. I wish everybody was required to go back and learn what it truly means. I bet a lot of people would be shocked to see how the term has morphed into a catch all word that has lost most of its meaning...
If it really was a nanny, nanny, poo, poo ...then why are folks who are called out for being a racist ...being forced to step down from jobs, losing their TV platform, losing contracts, slapped arounded in the news...etc. You may think it is a nanny nanny moment, but being labeled a racist can do lots of personal and emotional harm.
Beach Lover
I don't think I'll defend anything, but merely state that I'm totally unsympathetic to your cause whatever that might be.
Good, even you can't defend that group, haven't been reading your posts very long...but you seem to be at a lost for words finally!!!!!,
Beach Fanatic
The left wing "race card" conspiracy goes way back. Liberals have been using it as a weapon for years. (As some of the leaked Jounrolist emails prove.) "Just call them racists".. that's the idea. Whether it's true or not is irrelevant, you use it to undermine the credibility of the opposition. In the end though, it's sort of like crying wolf, the claim looses any meaning.
Glenn Beck has taken to calling people racists lately: the current President & former President Woodrow Wilson to name just two.
Moderator
If it really was a nanny, nanny, poo, poo ...then why are folks who are called out for being a racist ...being forced to step down from jobs, losing their TV platform, losing contracts, slapped arounded in the news...etc. You may think it is a nanny nanny moment, but being labeled a racist can do lots of personal and emotional harm.
I guess the point that I'm trying to make is that it is grossly misused by far too many which has diminished its meaning. I did follow up that there is a perceived stigma attached to it, and that is the part of labeling somebody as a racist that is the true weapon.
Beach Fanatic
I guess the point that I'm trying to make is that it is grossly misused by far too many which has diminished its meaning. I did follow up that there is a perceived stigma attached to it, and that is the part of labeling somebody as a racist that is the true weapon.
SNL did a spoof of MTV's The Real World where all of the characters were running around a house calling each other racist. If a guy drank another guy's beer out of the fridge without asking, he was "a racist!" It underscored Will's point, and was pretty damn funny to boot.
Beach Fanatic
The vast left-winged conspiracy.
JournoGate Continued: Pouncing On Palin
Has the media's liberal cabal ever let Americans get to know Sarah Palin?
Media Bias: Ever wonder why 2008 VP candidate Sarah Palin was so ridiculed before much was known about her? Turns out liberal journalists engaged in a coordinated smear campaign to aid the Democratic ticket.
When we talked with Alaska's then-governor in the summer of 2008 about plans to develop her state's energy resources, she came across like most other Alaskans we've met ? frank, down-to-earth, colloquial, but more than technocratically knowledgeable about the energy field.
The issue then for Gov. Palin was how to balance the development of Alaska's bountiful resources with its near-pristine environment. She also wrestled with how to create a healthy business climate in a state with a history of political corruption involving oil companies.
We detected a sense of duty as Palin spoke of bringing natural gas to the Lower 48, and we were impressed with the way she spoke authoritatively about Alaska's polar bear population and compassionately about the well-being of native Alaskans. We also interviewed longtime nonpolitical Alaskan bureaucrats who raved about working with the governor and praised her executive ability
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Sound like the Sarah Palin you read about when she was chosen as John McCain's running mate that fall? Hardly.
Suddenly Palin became a backwoods Christian fundamentalist hillbilly with five kids who couldn't possibly be who she said she was. Her intelligence was attacked, her accomplishments belittled, her verbal slips ridiculed, her family's privacy invaded and her clean record smeared with accusations of corruption, all of which proved false.
Now it's clear what was really going on. On Thursday, the Daily Caller published exchanges from a private forum called JournoList that showed how 400 top mainstream reporters and their activist buddies conspired in an attack against Palin the minute she entered the presidential race.
Wrote Daniel Levy of the Century Foundation: "This seems to me like an occasion when the nonofficial campaign has a big role to play in defining Palin, shaping the terms of the conversation and saying things that the official (Obama) campaign shouldn't say ? very hard-hitting stuff, including some of the things that people have been noting here (on JournoList) ? scare people about having this woefully inexperienced, no foreign policy/national security/right-wing christia (sic) wing-nut a heartbeat away."
"What a joke," added Jeffrey Toobin, a staff writer at the New Yorker and a senior analyst at CNN.
Ryan Donmoyer of Bloomberg News warned the forum bloggers that Palin's decision against aborting her baby with Down syndrome represented a threat to Obama because it was a "heartwarming" story. Politico's Ben Adler (now at Newsweek) said Palin should be criticized because campaigning would take her away from her baby.
And so it went ? journalists from the Nation, Mother Jones, Time, Politico, Bloomberg cooking up approaches, arguments, "narratives" and templates to paint a false picture of the candidate.
There are so many things wrong with this, we hardly know where to start. Nominally competitors, these supposedly impartial media mavens colluded in a way that would put airline or insurance officials in the dock for anti-competitive practices. They engaged in activism instead of fact-finding and mixed incestuously with activists whom they also should have been covering impartially.
Worst of all, they deprived millions of Americans of the information they needed to size up this new face on the political scene and determine if she really was a candidate who represented their interests.
That still remains to be done ? and the country is poorer for it.
for complete article JournoGate Continued: Pouncing On Palin - IBD - Investors.com
JournoGate Continued: Pouncing On Palin
Has the media's liberal cabal ever let Americans get to know Sarah Palin?
Media Bias: Ever wonder why 2008 VP candidate Sarah Palin was so ridiculed before much was known about her? Turns out liberal journalists engaged in a coordinated smear campaign to aid the Democratic ticket.
When we talked with Alaska's then-governor in the summer of 2008 about plans to develop her state's energy resources, she came across like most other Alaskans we've met ? frank, down-to-earth, colloquial, but more than technocratically knowledgeable about the energy field.
The issue then for Gov. Palin was how to balance the development of Alaska's bountiful resources with its near-pristine environment. She also wrestled with how to create a healthy business climate in a state with a history of political corruption involving oil companies.
We detected a sense of duty as Palin spoke of bringing natural gas to the Lower 48, and we were impressed with the way she spoke authoritatively about Alaska's polar bear population and compassionately about the well-being of native Alaskans. We also interviewed longtime nonpolitical Alaskan bureaucrats who raved about working with the governor and praised her executive ability
.
Sound like the Sarah Palin you read about when she was chosen as John McCain's running mate that fall? Hardly.
Suddenly Palin became a backwoods Christian fundamentalist hillbilly with five kids who couldn't possibly be who she said she was. Her intelligence was attacked, her accomplishments belittled, her verbal slips ridiculed, her family's privacy invaded and her clean record smeared with accusations of corruption, all of which proved false.
Now it's clear what was really going on. On Thursday, the Daily Caller published exchanges from a private forum called JournoList that showed how 400 top mainstream reporters and their activist buddies conspired in an attack against Palin the minute she entered the presidential race.
Wrote Daniel Levy of the Century Foundation: "This seems to me like an occasion when the nonofficial campaign has a big role to play in defining Palin, shaping the terms of the conversation and saying things that the official (Obama) campaign shouldn't say ? very hard-hitting stuff, including some of the things that people have been noting here (on JournoList) ? scare people about having this woefully inexperienced, no foreign policy/national security/right-wing christia (sic) wing-nut a heartbeat away."
"What a joke," added Jeffrey Toobin, a staff writer at the New Yorker and a senior analyst at CNN.
Ryan Donmoyer of Bloomberg News warned the forum bloggers that Palin's decision against aborting her baby with Down syndrome represented a threat to Obama because it was a "heartwarming" story. Politico's Ben Adler (now at Newsweek) said Palin should be criticized because campaigning would take her away from her baby.
And so it went ? journalists from the Nation, Mother Jones, Time, Politico, Bloomberg cooking up approaches, arguments, "narratives" and templates to paint a false picture of the candidate.
There are so many things wrong with this, we hardly know where to start. Nominally competitors, these supposedly impartial media mavens colluded in a way that would put airline or insurance officials in the dock for anti-competitive practices. They engaged in activism instead of fact-finding and mixed incestuously with activists whom they also should have been covering impartially.
Worst of all, they deprived millions of Americans of the information they needed to size up this new face on the political scene and determine if she really was a candidate who represented their interests.
That still remains to be done ? and the country is poorer for it.
for complete article JournoGate Continued: Pouncing On Palin - IBD - Investors.com
Banned
If their efforts really were a deciding factor in determining the outcome of the election, I would imagine some Obama supporters are very grateful for their efforts. I'm personally very skeptical. The McCain/Palin ticket didn't need much extra help from the media in order to bury themselves politically.
Banned
I'm sorry, but branding somebody a "racist", today, has the same effect as thumbing your nose and saying "nanny nanny boo boo". It is the most overused and misused label there is, now. I wish everybody was required to go back and learn what it truly means. I bet a lot of people would be shocked to see how the term has morphed into a catch all word that has lost most of its meaning...
Coming in a close second is "mainstream media".
Beach Fanatic
Having it both ways?
Yes, it's unclear what "mainstream media" means any more.
FOX brags that it has more viewers than the competition, but it's the competition that's "mainstream."
Coming in a close second is "mainstream media".
Yes, it's unclear what "mainstream media" means any more.
FOX brags that it has more viewers than the competition, but it's the competition that's "mainstream."
Banned
Coming in a close second is "mainstream media".
And anybody someone gets stuck with a difficult question, it's gotcha journalism.
margarita brocolia
And anybody someone gets stuck with a difficult question, it's gotcha journalism..
Definitely noticed that one. If they don't have a defense or counter to offer, they just claim the questioning to be a gotcha question.:roll:
Must be in the training manuals.
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Beach Fanatic
It doesn't sound as if some of you have spent ten minutes reading the reports about the journolist. There are over 400 "journalists on that list and they conspired to not report anything about Obama and made up lies about Palin because their immediate gut reaction was "danger Will Robinson" when they saw her. I don't care who you like politically but repeating the same lame lies over and over is a disservice to yourselves. Gotcha journalism it has been - but no more. They have been exposed.
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