Which Side of the Fence?

You Might Be A Republican If...

You think "proletariat" is a type of cheese.
You've named your kids "Deduction one" and "Deduction two".
You've tried to argue that poverty could be abolished if people were just allowed to keep more of their minimum wage.
You've ever referred to someone as "my (insert racial or ethnic minority here) friend".
You've ever tried to prove Jesus was a capitalist and opposed to welfare.
You're a pro-lifer, but support the death penalty.
You think Huey Newton is a cookie.
You think the Theory of Evolution was a liberal propaganda.
The only union you support is the Baseball Players, because heck, they're richer than you.
You drive a Buick with all the chrome options and wired hubcaps.
You think you might remember laughing once as a kid.
You once broke loose at a party and removed your neck tie.
You call mall rent-a-cops "jack-booted thugs."
You've ever referred to the moral fiber of something.
You've ever uttered the phrase, "Why don't we just bomb the sons of *****es."
You've ever said, "I can't wait to get into business school."
You've ever called a secretary or waitress "Tootsie."
You answer to "The Man."
You don't think "The Simpsons" is all that funny, but you watch it because that Flanders fellow makes a lot of sense.
You fax the FBI a list of "Commies in my Neighborhood."
You don't let your kids watch Sesame Street because you accuse Bert and Ernie of "sexual deviance."
You scream "Dit-dit-ditto" while making love.
You've argued that art has a "moral foundation set in Western values."
When people say "Marx," you think "Groucho."
You've ever yelled, "Hey hippie, get a haircut."
You think Birkenstock was that radical rock concert in 1969.
You argue that you need 300 handguns, in case a bear ever attacks your home.
Vietnam makes a lot of sense to you.
You point to Hootie and the Blowfish as evidence of the end of racism in America.
You've ever said civil liberties, schmivil schmiberties.
You've ever said "Clean air? Looks clean to me."
You've ever called education a luxury.
You look down through a glass ceiling and chuckle.
You wonder if donations to the Pentagon are tax-deductible.
You came of age in the '60s and don't remember Bob Dylan.
You own a vehicle with an "Ollie North: American Hero" sticker.
You're afraid of the "liberal media."
You ever based an argument on the phrase, "Well, tradition dictates...."
You ever based an argument on the phrase, "Well, the Bible said...."
You ever told a child that Oscar the Grouch "lives in a trash can because he is lazy and doesn't want to contribute to society."
You've ever urged someone to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, when they don't even have shoes.
You confuse Lenin with Lennon.

You Might Be A Republican If...

You think "proletariat" is a type of cheese.
You've named your kids "Deduction one" and "Deduction two".
You've tried to argue that poverty could be abolished if people were just allowed to keep more of their minimum wage.
You've ever referred to someone as "my (insert racial or ethnic minority here) friend".
You've ever tried to prove Jesus was a capitalist and opposed to welfare.
You're a pro-lifer, but support the death penalty.
You think Huey Newton is a cookie.
You think the Theory of Evolution was a liberal propaganda.
The only union you support is the Baseball Players, because heck, they're richer than you.
You drive a Buick with all the chrome options and wired hubcaps.
You think you might remember laughing once as a kid.
You once broke loose at a party and removed your neck tie.
You call mall rent-a-cops "jack-booted thugs."
You've ever referred to the moral fiber of something.
You've ever uttered the phrase, "Why don't we just bomb the sons of *****es."
You've ever said, "I can't wait to get into business school."
You've ever called a secretary or waitress "Tootsie."
You answer to "The Man."
You don't think "The Simpsons" is all that funny, but you watch it because that Flanders fellow makes a lot of sense.
You fax the FBI a list of "Commies in my Neighborhood."
You don't let your kids watch Sesame Street because you accuse Bert and Ernie of "sexual deviance."
You scream "Dit-dit-ditto" while making love.
You've argued that art has a "moral foundation set in Western values."
When people say "Marx," you think "Groucho."
You've ever yelled, "Hey hippie, get a haircut."
You think Birkenstock was that radical rock concert in 1969.
You argue that you need 300 handguns, in case a bear ever attacks your home.
Vietnam makes a lot of sense to you.
You point to Hootie and the Blowfish as evidence of the end of racism in America.
You've ever said civil liberties, schmivil schmiberties.
You've ever said "Clean air? Looks clean to me."
You've ever called education a luxury.
You look down through a glass ceiling and chuckle.
You wonder if donations to the Pentagon are tax-deductible.
You came of age in the '60s and don't remember Bob Dylan.
You own a vehicle with an "Ollie North: American Hero" sticker.
You're afraid of the "liberal media."
You ever based an argument on the phrase, "Well, tradition dictates...."
You ever based an argument on the phrase, "Well, the Bible said...."
You ever told a child that Oscar the Grouch "lives in a trash can because he is lazy and doesn't want to contribute to society."
You've ever urged someone to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, when they don't even have shoes.
You confuse Lenin with Lennon.

yes, and its all completely meaningless. you can't put any of us into such narrowly ridiculous categories - we are so much MORE than Democrat or Republican or whatever label you choose... however, the problem with it, even when its meant as a joke, is that people take it seriously and use such crap to build themselves up so they can feel superior to someone else. who, I don't know. at least they can feel good for a moment sitting in front of their computer feeling superior.

the question on the first part of this "email" is this:
Which side of the fence?
If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!

in my experience and opinion, the answer is - if you sit on either side of the poorly & narrowly written referenced fence, you are a dumbass.

Wow, no sense of humor here. Now ugga's little rant got very little feedback, wonder why that is...as to the comment(or dig) about Republican religion and a post that I made on another thread...that mosque near the 9-11 site is not just a church, it is something totally different. It is going to be a in your face structure that will have a lot of emotional impact on many people. You would think that there would be a little sensitivity here...I feel that they (the group wishing to build here) are giving us the finger and because we have become so politically correct, fair, and downright cowardly in standing up for ourselves, the building is going to be erected. There are times that just because something is right, doesn't mean that it should be done... It mattesr that some of us lost love ones and they were murdered by the same religion that will occupy this mosque... that I can not overlook, and really don't think I ever will be able to forgive, not enough time left in my life to change. I will not say anymore.
I find that it is a constant battle on these forums...I'm doing it too..we no longer
discuss, we take pot shots at each other or hurtful digs...think I will take a week off and regroup..I'm tired of it all.

Wow, no sense of humor here. Now ugga's little rant got very little feedback, wonder why that is...as to the comment(or dig) about Republican religion and a post that I made on another thread...that mosque near the 9-11 site is not just a church, it is something totally different. It is going to be a in your face structure that will have a lot of emotional impact on many people. You would think that there would be a little sensitivity here...I feel that they (the group wishing to build here) are giving us the finger and because we have become so politically correct, fair, and downright cowardly in standing up for ourselves, the building is going to be erected. There are times that just because something is right, doesn't mean that it should be done... It mattesr that some of us lost love ones and they were murdered by the same religion that will occupy this mosque... that I can not overlook, and really don't think I ever will be able to forgive, not enough time left in my life to change. I will not say anymore.
I find that it is a constant battle on these forums...I'm doing it too..we no longer
discuss, we take pot shots at each other or hurtful digs...think I will take a week off and regroup..I'm tired of it all.

Wow, no sense of humor here. Now ugga's little rant got very little feedback, wonder why that is...as to the comment(or dig) about Republican religion and a post that I made on another thread...that mosque near the 9-11 site is not just a church, it is something totally different. It is going to be a in your face structure that will have a lot of emotional impact on many people. You would think that there would be a little sensitivity here...I feel that they (the group wishing to build here) are giving us the finger and because we have become so politically correct, fair, and downright cowardly in standing up for ourselves, the building is going to be erected. There are times that just because something is right, doesn't mean that it should be done... It mattesr that some of us lost love ones and they were murdered by the same religion that will occupy this mosque... that I can not overlook, and really don't think I ever will be able to forgive, not enough time left in my life to change. I will not say anymore.
I find that it is a constant battle on these forums...I'm doing it too..we no longer
discuss, we take pot shots at each other or hurtful digs...think I will take a week off and regroup..I'm tired of it all.

It's easier to control people when you can divide them into little camps and let them fight among themselves. The Nazis were a case study in this...first, turn the "other" into caricatures with the use of stereotypes that make the target audience feel smarter, superior, and entitled. Then, foster a feeling of contempt for the other side. Once you've dehumanized the other group in the minds of your supporters, summarily dismiss all their ideas as rubbish unworthy of your time. Push the two groups further and further apart, and eventually everyone will lose sight of the simple fact that they all want the same outcome -- a safe and prosperous county/state/country.

I know Republican vegetarians, and Democrat gun enthusiasts. The difference? One believes the wealthy are best able to determine the future direction of our country, and one group believes that rule by concensus leads to a more stable, just, and prosperous future. The goals are the same, and we are all trying to find a balance between taxes and regulation and public health.

Don't lose sight of the fact that we are all Americans, and the best form of government is never single party rule -- it's the balance between the two extremes responding to the times that makes us a strong and vibrant country.

You Might Be A Republican If...
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You came of age in the '60s and don't remember Bob Dylan.
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Wow, no sense of humor here. Now ugga's little rant got very little feedback, wonder why that is...as to the comment(or dig) about Republican religion and a post that I made on another thread...that mosque near the 9-11 site is not just a church, it is something totally different. It is going to be a in your face structure that will have a lot of emotional impact on many people. You would think that there would be a little sensitivity here...I feel that they (the group wishing to build here) are giving us the finger and because we have become so politically correct, fair, and downright cowardly in standing up for ourselves, the building is going to be erected. There are times that just because something is right, doesn't mean that it should be done... It mattesr that some of us lost love ones and they were murdered by the same religion that will occupy this mosque... that I can not overlook, and really don't think I ever will be able to forgive, not enough time left in my life to change. I will not say anymore.
I find that it is a constant battle on these forums...I'm doing it too..we no longer
discuss, we take pot shots at each other or hurtful digs...think I will take a week off and regroup..I'm tired of it all.

It's a non-descript reformist mosque in a city full of Muslims, many of whom lost loved ones, also Muslims, on 9/11. I see the erection of a house of worship as business as usual, not that I am by any means a proponent of religion, but religion in and of itself never killed anyone. It's the people behind it. Almost 9 years after 9-11, I fail to see a connection between the events of that day, and people of various faiths going about their day to day activities in the present. For an example of utter tactless insensitivity, I think of Charleton Heston staging a big NRA rally in Columbine, just weeks after the shooting.

we are a single corporate party system, posing as the old 2 party. most progressive legislation is repub retread proposals thrown as bone to the public....healthcare for example sans public option. a few thousand people control this country. a few percentage points of folks control over half the wealth, and that's the way it shall stay barring revolution. we usually do well with the benevolent aplha cabal.

After looking at photos of Rosie the riveter during WWII I was wondering - was Hitler good for women's rights? Did he do more for us than any other single person by sending us into the factories? Getting women out of the home and killing so many American men sure did change America. Then couple that with all of the post-war changes and Hitler may be responsible for the way we are today more than Jesus or Reagan or Einstein. Thoughts?

yes, and its all completely meaningless. you can't put any of us into such narrowly ridiculous categories - we are so much MORE than Democrat or Republican or whatever label you choose... however, the problem with it, even when its meant as a joke, is that people take it seriously and use such crap to build themselves up so they can feel superior to someone else. who, I don't know. at least they can feel good for a moment sitting in front of their computer feeling superior.

the question on the first part of this "email" is this:
Which side of the fence?
If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!

in my experience and opinion, the answer is - if you sit on either side of the poorly & narrowly written referenced fence, you are a dumbass.

An online friend did her PhD dissertation on women, work, and WW2, and her conclusion was that, despite what we'd hope to find, the majority of women were glad to move back into homemaking roles after the war and weren't particularly upset to be displaced by men returning home to work at their old jobs.

While there were obviously going to be exceptions to the rule, and I know I would have been really unhappy in 1950s suburbia, the Ozzie and Harriet family suburban structure in the 1950s was actually a pretty comfortable arrangement for the (usually white) families that lived it, especially compared to the pre-war 1930s when the country was still trying to pull itself out of the Great Depression.

But I wonder if the relative comfort of post-WW2 suburbia was what actually gave people enough breathing room for large numbers of people to step back, move up a couple steps on Maslov's hierarchy of needs, and start to think a little bit deeper about themselves and how they wanted society to be, and that played into both the Civil Rights movement and more equal opportunity for women.

Oh Toots thanks for the laugh. And something seems a bit too familiar about ol' Edgy Grammy......

Welcome to the SoWal political forum. :roll:

I suppose we could all go back to beating the kids.

Oh Toots thanks for the laugh. And something seems a bit too familiar about ol' Edgy Grammy......