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What's happening with the Wheelhouse?

Beach Comber
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I see a public hearing notice in front of the Seagrove Yellowfin property and the old WheelHouse...does anyone know what is planning to move into that property area?

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Beach Crab
#2
Same sign in front of Seagrove Villa Motel. Must be a zoning thing?
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#3
And at the corner of 395 across from Veridian, and by Monet Monet/Rock Hard and several other prominent locations. :idontno:

Someone told me it was just the county finally catching up on old proposed zoning changes.
Douglas the Intrepid avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4
I have noticed multiple Yellow Fin vehicles parked in front of the empty little blue building near Old Florida Fish house this last week. I am kinda hoping they are opening a branch there!
Em avatar
Beach Fanatic
#5
Who knows. I believe most of that Flowers' property sold a few months ago. Maybe the new owners want to change the land use. I'm not sure what specifically was included with the sale. One way to find out is to get the info from the sign and call the Planning Dept and ask for information on the land use request. Then, attend the meetings.
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#6
I thought that the Veridian project would fail. Of course, how many people have invested in a condo-hotel there? But every time I drive by, it gets closer to fruition. What was Planning and the BCC thinking about when they approved that style of architecture for that location? Totally incompatible with the area. Argh!

It wouldn't surprise me if the same sort of incompatible architecture will be approved for the Seagrove Villas/Wheelhouse area. I can't take on every project in SoWal. Will just focus on my own 'hood. In the meantime, I will look the other way when I pass by Veridian.
Beach Comber
#7
The wheelhouse was sold. Nikki Nickerson was the agent
Beach Fanatic
#8
beach runner, the planning department has nothing to do with architecture style. there are no rules on style in south walton.
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#9
beach runner, the planning department has nothing to do with architecture style. there are no rules on style in south walton.
Then what does the county's Design Review Board do?
Beach Fanatic
#10
Then what does the county's Design Review Board do?

it seems to be primarily concerned with traffic issues, placement of buildings on lots; and parking lots; along with neighborhood compatibility...like no restaurants/bars in the middle of a residential area etc. (However this could be argued in more than one case).

My assessment may not be totally correct--I am only speaking from the experience of attending some of the meetings. I've never seen a scope of work for that Board. Here is a link to the minutes of a meeting FYI. http://www.co.walton.fl.us/archives/42/04012010 DRB Minutes.pdfand the one about Walmart:http://www.co.walton.fl.us/archives/42/01072010 DRB Minutes.pdf

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Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#11
it seems to be primarily concerned with traffic issues, placement of buildings on lots; and parking lots; along with neighborhood compatibility...like no restaurants/bars in the middle of a residential area etc. (However this could be argued in more than one case).

My assessment may not be totally correct--I am only speaking from the experience of attending some of the meetings. I've never seen a scope of work for that Board. Here is a link to the minutes of a meeting FYI. http://www.co.walton.fl.us/archives/42/04012010 DRB Minutes.pdfand the one about Walmart:http://www.co.walton.fl.us/archives/42/01072010 DRB Minutes.pdf
I have been to plenty of those meetings myself. Personally if I were the people who spent two years renovating the beachfront home at the intersection of 30A and 395, I'd be pretty upset about the totally incompatible architecture going up across the street. But that's none of my business.

My point is that this is SoWal, not SoBe.The funky Seagrove Market Cafe was an asset at that intersection because it was compatible with the neighborhood.
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#12
Architecture is very subjective - personally I hate it when all the houses are the same style, color, etc.

I like more variety - think it ages better and gives a better end result.
DuneAHH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#13
Architecture is very subjective - personally I hate it when all the houses are the same style, color, etc.

I like more variety - think it ages better and gives a better end result.

I acknowledge your point and honor your position.

For me there are certain adjacencies that never seem to live comfortably together. For example, I don't think I'll ever be able to embrace the jarring note of
IM Pei's glass pyramid plopped in front of the Louvre. Or a morton building garage addition on a classic antebellum southern mansion.
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#14
Additions definitely should match/blend/work with the existing, though I go back and forth on how I feel about the Louvre Pyramid.

Just saying I'd rather have well done variety than poorly done same ol'. There are some great modern houses on 30-A and some truly HORRIBLE "beachy" houses. (Jury is still out on where Viridian will fall on the cool vs. horrid scale.)
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#15
Additions definitely should match/blend/work with the existing, though I go back and forth on how I feel about the Louvre Pyramid.

Just saying I'd rather have well done variety than poorly done same ol'. There are some great modern houses on 30-A and some truly HORRIBLE "beachy" houses. (Jury is still out on where Viridian will fall on the cool vs. horrid scale.)

I, at first, was hoping the new structure going up on that site would be "old timey", with lots of brick and maybe a New Orleans style (perhaps Baytowne-like). But I think the style they are going for will be a refreshing change from that period. Most of Florida really isn't as old as New Orleans, anyway, so to get nostalgic around here means basically to go back to the art deco of South Beach. I think that's what they are going for.
DuneAHH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#16
I, at first, was hoping the new structure going up on that site would be "old timey", with lots of brick and maybe a New Orleans style (perhaps Baytowne-like). But I think the style they are going for will be a refreshing change from that period. Most of Florida really isn't as old as New Orleans, anyway, so to get nostalgic around here means basically to go back to the art deco of South Beach. I think that's what they are going for.

THAT could be charming AND cool. I think Watercolor Inn architecture successfully achieved new & modern while blending very well with the overall community surroundings.

The Viridean renderings posted several years ago looked like they were going for uber contemporary ala Dallas' glass city skyscrapers.

JMPO... but that seems uber jarring with the surroundings and NOT charming. It is my hope that the arch. design got ramped down a bit.
Beach Fanatic
#18
http://hotelviridian.com :wave:

I'm still feeling sad about the loss of the trees....:(
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#19
I'm still feeling sad about the loss of the trees....:(

Ditto - I'm going to be in trouble the next time Mama Scooterbug visits because I haven't told her yet - those were her favorite trees. She loved how they were shaped by the wind off the Gulf.
DuneAHH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#20
http://hotelviridian.com :wave:

BettySue's Gr'father and Father were prominent South Beach art deco architects. The response to these sketches was "it's reeeally stretching it" to say that this has much to do with South Beach art deco architecture.
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#21
I definitely don't think we'll see it on the cover of an Art Deco book anytime soon, but I don't think it's as bad as it could be given some of the fugly that has appeared in the last couple of years.

Worst case scenario, confederate jasmine grows quickly and there are lots of vertical columns. ;-)
Beach Fanatic
#22
I definitely don't think we'll see it on the cover of an Art Deco book anytime soon, but I don't think it's as bad as it could be given some of the fugly that has appeared in the last couple of years.

Worst case scenario, confederate jasmine grows quickly and there are lots of vertical columns. ;-)
:lolabove:
Beach Fanatic
#23
It'll probably be OK

Hey friends and neighbors:

Yep, the place sold and we've had to move out. There's a Planning Commission meting on the 17th, so check it out if you're interested. While I've not been told of the new plans, it will probably be a noteworthy development. There is a top-flight architect working with the new owners, and I suspect that it will be a quality development (even without Yellowfin).

Please come see us at our new location, 30 Heron's Watch Way, next to the Old Florida Fish House and Eastern Lake.
Aleigh avatar
Beach Lover
#24
I definitely don't think we'll see it on the cover of an Art Deco book anytime soon, but I don't think it's as bad as it could be given some of the fugly that has appeared in the last couple of years.

Worst case scenario, confederate jasmine grows quickly and there are lots of vertical columns. ;-)


Where's Frank Lloyd Wright when you need him?
ASH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#25
Brian and Wade will do the neighborhood well.

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