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Word on the street is that a local Dr.s office got raided.

30ABandMan avatar
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...by the DEA, FBI and WCSO. Anyone know anything more?

I hope that the allegations (which are common these days) are unfounded. I really like this fellow.

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scooterbug44 avatar
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#2
No idea, but that combo usually doesn't end up as a "mistake" - my experience is that by the time they raid they have the legal case all sewn up.
Lake View Too avatar
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#3
I guess we might as well hear the name, if you know it...
scooterbug44 avatar
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#4
Nothing about it in the SUN or NWF Daily news. :idontno:
grace avatar
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I have a pretty good guess.
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#6
There are not many doctors in this area. Would this be a pain pill bust that you hear so much about these days? If they bust the doctor then do they get the files and bust the people getting all the pills?
grace avatar
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#7
There are not many doctors in this area. Would this be a pain pill bust that you hear so much about these days? If they bust the doctor then do they get the files and bust the people getting all the pills?
That's what should happen. I don't think that's the way it works though.
Beach Fanatic
#8
If the doctor was raided by the FBI, it would have already been on the news, and would be found on the Sheriff's website, wouldn't it? The only one in the news lately is the doctor who worked in Freeport, and if I correctly recall, he is now in jail.

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wrobert avatar
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#9
That's what should happen. I don't think that's the way it works though.


And why should it? Doctor's are usually the ones that start giving out ever increasing amounts of medication that make these users addicts instead of working to solve the underlying issue.
grace avatar
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#10
And why should it? Doctor's are usually the ones that start giving out ever increasing amounts of medication that make these users addicts instead of working to solve the underlying issue.

You don't think that people who shop doctors to obtain large amounts of prescription drugs to abuse and/or sell should be punished???
I certainly do.
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#11
Nothing in today's Defuniak Herald. If it is any clue, it was actually a physicians assistant that got busted that was dubbed 'doc'. Of course, a physician theoretically was signing off on everything the PA did, so more heads might roll.

As an aside, God help us all when cops can start rummaging through your medical file without obtaining a court order to do so. Robert, I'm surprised a good conservative like you would endorse this, especially with the heavy handed treatment Limbaugh got in his particular situation. There are a few pill pushers around here, and they are well known, but the serious pill action is in south Florida. Trust me when I tell you lots of the prescriptions abused in thus neck of the woods come from deep south Florida. Hopefully our new attorney general will go after these thugs unlike our lame duck.
30ABandMan avatar
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#12
And the Atcay is out of the Agbay...

Thanks Skunky.
Alicia Leonard avatar
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#13
Nothing in today's Defuniak Herald. If it is any clue, it was actually a physicians assistant that got busted that was dubbed 'doc'. Of course, a physician theoretically was signing off on everything the PA did, so more heads might roll.

As an aside, God help us all when cops can start rummaging through your medical file without obtaining a court order to do so. Robert, I'm surprised a good conservative like you would endorse this, especially with the heavy handed treatment Limbaugh got in his particular situation. There are a few pill pushers around here, and they are well known, but the serious pill action is in south Florida. Trust me when I tell you lots of the prescriptions abused in thus neck of the woods come from deep south Florida. Hopefully our new attorney general will go after these thugs unlike our lame duck.


We've not received any reports from any agencies on this, which means they're probably still workin it.:wave:
wrobert avatar
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#14
You don't think that people who shop doctors to obtain large amounts of prescription drugs to abuse and/or sell should be punished???
I certainly do.


Shopping to sell is one thing. Shopping to abuse, a whole different matter. I have had to go through this abuse thing with a couple of different family members. Seems to me that so many Doctors are throwing pain pills at a symptom instead of finding a solution. As bad as the reputation seems to be for the local hospital, there is where we found a Doctor that helped find a solution to the symptoms and also was able to help us manage medications to prevent addiction.
Beach Crab
#15
Sounds like someone got a visit from the Federal/State Task Force that recently brought down Webb and Ignasiak and is about to bring Bourlier to trial. Prescription Drug Addiction is up 400% according to a recent SAMSHA report due to sleazy medical practicioners becoming drug dealers in white lab coats. Addiction is a chronic, progressive, and often fatal biological brain disorder. Addiction is treatable, and excellent treatment resources exist in our area. They are provided by caring, ethical, licensed/certified professionals. If you are seeking treatment for prescription drug abuse or any other addiction ask direct questions about qualifications, experience, certification, and licensure prior to committing to a course of treatment. Appropriate assessment and diagnosis are the critical foundation for success in recovery from addiction/alcoholism or any other behavioral health issue. Look for providers that are members of the American Society of Addiction Medicine/Licensed by the Department of Children and Families to provide Substance Abuse and Mental Health services and require counseling in addition to medication. Counseling should be provided by a Licensed Clinical Social Worker or a Licensed Mental Health Counselor that is also a Certified Addictions Professional.
scooterbug44 avatar
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Shopping to sell is one thing. Shopping to abuse, a whole different matter. I have had to go through this abuse thing with a couple of different family members. Seems to me that so many Doctors are throwing pain pills at a symptom instead of finding a solution. As bad as the reputation seems to be for the local hospital, there is where we found a Doctor that helped find a solution to the symptoms and also was able to help us manage medications to prevent addiction.

I think part of the problem is that it can be difficult to determine just how much pain someone is legitimately in and that one doctor is not in charge of the care/all the meds so it is harder to get the whole picture and all the sources.

Though I definitely agree that far too many pills get handed out like candy for minor ailments that IMO could be easily treated w/ aspirin, Aleve, or a pair of big girl panties.

Am hoping electronic medical records and streamlining the process can catch some of it, but looking at my own medical care - where my doctors and pharmacies are spread across 3 counties I can easily see how someone can take advantage of the system.
LuciferSam avatar
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#17
I think for some people, the risk of addiction is a small price to pay for easing of agonizing pain. This is particularly true with the elderly who may just want to live out their end years in relative comfort. Also drugs like Aspirin and various NSAIDS can eat holes in the stomach and esophagus. Given the choice, I might choose addiction and mental impairment over agony and bloody stools.

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wrobert avatar
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#18
I think part of the problem is that it can be difficult to determine just how much pain someone is legitimately in and that one doctor is not in charge of the care/all the meds so it is harder to get the whole picture and all the sources.

Though I definitely agree that far too many pills get handed out like candy for minor ailments that IMO could be easily treated w/ aspirin, Aleve, or a pair of big girl panties.

Am hoping electronic medical records and streamlining the process can catch some of it, but looking at my own medical care - where my doctors and pharmacies are spread across 3 counties I can easily see how someone can take advantage of the system.


While I do have some serious issues with the government maintaining privacy of health records and their capabilities, I also have come to understand that we desperately need a centralized database to monitor certain drugs. The elderly are just as prone if not more so to different doctors over prescribing. It takes staying really involved in their drug management to make sure they are not either becoming addicted or starting an alternate income stream.

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