Ga colleges "may" ban illegal immigrants

This was my favorite line: "Illegal immigrants are not eligible for in-state tuition." :roll:

Can Georgia lawmakers really not find a better use of their time and taxpayers' resources?

Sorry, but if you can't get into Georgia Perimeter College, it isn't because droves of illegal aliens took the available places. It means you couldn't meet the high academic standards of an institution that accepts a D grade for transfer credits. :roll:

"We find ourselves in debate over a very, very insignificant number of students," said Regent Jim Jolly, who chairs the committee. "But we recognize this is not an insignificant issue. It is a political and emotional issue and I think we have made good progress in addressing the concerns out there."

I think this fix is a compromise between two parties who want different things. Some people want no immigrants in the schools because it takes up a small amount of spots and the other side wants them in the schools as long as they don't take spots that would have gone to qualified citizens.

You say it is an insignificant amount of students, but if someone is the parent of one of the 501 American citizens who would have gotten that spot at the taxpayer funded university that went to an illegal immigrant, it's a significant issue for that person.

State universities are a very emotional issue for a lot of people, especially parents. I am probably going to get $100,000 scholarship offer ( OOS tuition waiver plus $10,000 a year) from The University of South Carolina.

Is that fair for a South Carolina citizen to not be able to afford to go to their state university while they're funding my education, even though I have never spent a day of my life in the state?

According to the South Carolina legislature, it is fair because I add a strong dynamic to the campus community and may in the future contribute to the state of South Carolina. Here in Texas there is EXTREMELY limited (as in none) merit scholarship for out of state students, that's because the citizens fight hard enough against it.

I would imagine that there are a lot of students who were denied from either UGA or Georgia Tech who believe illegal immigrants hurt their chances. I think their outrage makes it more than worthy for their state legislators that they elect to look into the issue and decide what is best for the state, just as South Carolina and Texas do.

when you grow up, your mind
may become an illegal immigrant to your culture. good luck.

2 UGA students and 4 Georgia Tech students MIGHT be illegal aliens or they MIGHT just not have the correct form turned in.

Based on those numbers, IMO any student who think they were denied admittance because of illegal aliens needs to find a different scapegoat as to why they couldn't get in.

This is a bonafide might and maybe conversation Y'all are engaged.
If an applicant cannot show a student VISA (legit), green card for permanent residency, or prove US citizenship, I don't think he/she should be admitted to a public university. However, each University asks for citizenship status or proof of right to be here.....so, either the illegal is lying on the application or the University doesn't care if there are lies and therefore the admission boo-boo is on them.

While I think a lot of admission counselors would disagree with this statement because it does not take into account the randomness of college admissions, I'll say it is generally true.

I just joined the boardr. I don't understand why everyone isn't given the same opportunnity to go to college. My oldest son want to go and just because he doesnt have a piece of paper they will turn him down.

Either it's a random process w/ variables or it's so straightforward a few possible illegals are ruining your chances. Gotta pick one. ;-)

Well, I have not researched every colleges admission procedures but I know UT-Austin's pretty well and it's a little bit of both of those.

It's straight forward in that 50% of it is an formula based on academics that gives you a score. The other 50% is the PAI, (Personal Achievement Index) which is a subjective score based on your essays, extracurriculars, and personal background. These are combined to form an hypothesized freshman year GPA. Then a computer lines all of the scores up, and they say they need to admit however many applicants based on their expected yield. The computer draws the line at the number and everyone above that above that line gets accepted and everyone below it gets denied.

So it's straightfoward in that you could be the first person on the wrong side of that line, and it be because an illegal immigrant was on the good side of the line.

The random part is, you can't control how strong the other applicants are. So an application that might have gotten declined one year could be accepted the next year.

Frankly I don't quite understand how any "illegal alien" could complete the mountain of paperwork and data necessary for college admission (medical, financial, transcripts, SSN etc.) without already being on the government's radar..

Well they are, but it's the state government that runs higher education. And we all know what happens if the state tries to enforce federal laws. ;-)

I just joined the boardr. I don't understand why everyone isn't given the same opportunnity to go to college. My oldest son want to go and just because he doesnt have a piece of paper they will turn him down.

Why is a birth certifcate such a big deal. Most people didnt work to get one but act like it should give them special privliges. We all live on earth

? {I} would rather have that kid [become] a neurosurgeon than a tomato picker. I?d rather him be a taxpayer than a tax taker. And for that I offer no apology.?
-Mike Huckabee

Well, let me be clear, because I?m not for an amnesty program. Here?s what I did favor, and I still favor it, and this makes people mad at me?and if it does, so be it. But here?s the issue. When a kid comes to his country, and he?s four years old and he had no choice in it ? his parents came illegally. He still, because he is in this state, it?s the state?s responsibility ? in fact, it is the state?s legal mandate ? to make sure that child is in school. So let?s say that kid goes to school. That kid is in our school from kindergarten through the 12th grade. He graduates as valedictorian because he?s a smart kid and he works his rear end off and he becomes the valedictorian of the school. The question is: Is he better off going to college and becoming a neurosurgeon or a banker or whatever he might become, and becoming a taxpayer, and in the process having to apply for and achieve citizenship, or should we make him pick tomatoes? I think it?s better if he goes to college and becomes a citizen. So, I did support a bill in my state, and I would support it today. I don?t want anyone to think I?ve backed away from it ? that you do not punish a child for something the parent did. And if in fact the provision in the law says that in order to obtain the scholarship, you have to be in the process of applying for citizenship and becoming legal, then I?d rather have that kid a neurosurgeon than a tomato picker. I?d rather him be a taxpayer than a tax taker. And for that I offer no apology?