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S&P 500 Then and Now

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Comparing 2008 and 2010
Taking a closer look at socialism and the S&P

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A couple of years ago, reviewing portfolios with clients presented slight problems. Lest we forget in October of 2008 every asset class went down. The entire financial system was being battered by a Category 5 hurricane. Remembering how portfolio values plummeted, fast-forward two years and meetings are more enjoyable.


We use Principia from Morningstar, and a report generated last week brought to mind a few salient points. Morningstar analyzes portfolios by choosing the best/worst threemonth, one-year and three-year returns over the last 10 years. What fascinated me was the best three-year return for this portfolio (April 2003 to March 2006) was immediately followed by the worst three-year return (March 2006 to February 2009). Conversely the best one-year return (March 2009 to February 2010) came on the heels of the worst one-year return (March 2008 to February 2009). If you wanted a perfect illustration of market-timing foolishness, you could not have picked a better example.


This portfolio?s emerging market allocation rose sharply. Investors chase returns ? the data is irrefutable. The dramatic inflow to bond mutual funds keeps pundits and prognosticators busy warning about the pending ?bubble? in bonds. Even Warren Buffett opined that the bubble in government bonds would be next to sear investors, but folks keep piling money into bond funds. Investors are also shoveling cash into emerging market equity funds because of their rapid growth. Financial bell-weather Barrons reported over 85 percent of all international mutual fund inflows during September went to two broad market indexes ?Vanguard Emerging Market and iShares Emerging Market ETF.

Investors have seen the light regarding exchange traded funds like VWO and EEM versus higher cost mutual funds, but that light could be a train barreling down the line.


It makes sense to have emerging market stocks and government bonds in your portfolio but make sure your allocation is appropriate for your age, risk tolerance, and needs. If you don?t have a strategy or a plan before you invest, then keep your money in your pocket, because it is human nature to follow the crowd.


The time frame intrigued me, so I dug a bit more. This portfolio?s best return on any one-year period over the last ten years was during President Obama?s term. Huh? President Obama?s opponents label him a socialist bent on taking over government, ending free markets and other dastardly deeds. Historically speaking, when socialist regimes seize power stock prices collapse. For the first 18 months of President Obama?s term, the S&P 500 rose almost 32 percent. Through August 2002, under President George W. Bush?s tutelage, the S&P 500 lost over 17 percent. These numbers suggest Obama needs to revisit his socialist agenda because socialists and the investor class are blood opposites think Auburn/Alabama. Of course, this could be a ruse, remember, his grandmother put a fake birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper.


Warren Buffett and I share two things, each of us owns a few shares of Berkshire Hathaway and we both are bullish on America. America will get through this crisis; our nation fought a civil war and gamblers once fixed the World Series but we still endured. Jingoistic hyperbole and over-the-top rhetoric solves no problems.


Intense political struggles are as American as apple pie; our third vice president killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel. After the 1787 Constitutional Convention, Benjamin Franklin told an audience that America was a republic ?if you can keep it.? Remember that quote.


In full disclosure, my wife and I own VWO.


Buz Livingston is a certified financial planner. He operates Livingston Financial Planning Inc. focusing on hourly financial planning and investment management. Contact him directly at 850-267-1068 or at buz@ LivingstonFinancial.net? .

BUZ LIVINGSTON
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Matt J avatar
SWGB
#27
I understand people wanting to own PM's for investment purposes and speculation of doomsday, but honestly owning coins that are valued high due to their collectible value is counter productive. If a gold coin is 1 oz of gold and is valued at $15,000.00 due to a collectors demand then you've still got 1 oz of gold if everything goes to sh!t.
SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#28
I understand people wanting to own PM's for investment purposes and speculation of doomsday, but honestly owning coins that are valued high due to their collectible value is counter productive. If a gold coin is 1 oz of gold and is valued at $15,000.00 due to a collectors demand then you've still got 1 oz of gold if everything goes to sh!t.

...which is exactly why I've transfered my entire net worth into Limited Edition Collector Plates from the Bradford Exchange.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#29
can the market be a leading indicator sans retail investors? can the banks be compelled to clear bad assets and lend? can gdp growth happen with high unemployment?
ok, perhaps not
Beach FanaticAuthor
#30
Bud you and your clients returns are basically "stolen" from the american saver. the retiree who depended on cd's has been raped by madman helicpoter ben bernanke.

Any retirement investment plan based on 100% CDs takes on a tremendous amount of reinvestment risk.

If rates fall, then you can not avoid lower income.

There are better ways to skin that cat.

For the record, my nickname is not Bud.

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Beach FanaticAuthor
#31
can the market be a leading indicator sans retail investors? can the banks be compelled to clear bad assets and lend? can gdp growth happen with high unemployment?

I was floating on the Buffalo River in Arkansas when you made this post.

Since you didn't use caps I thought you were just making a point.

"can the market be a leading indicator sans retail investors?" The stock market has historically been a leading indicator. It could be different this time, I guess.

"can the banks be compelled to clear bad assets and lend?" Don't know. Bad loans will eventually be written down per GAAP.

"can gdp growth happen with high unemployment?" It is albeit tepid growth.

Can I have my candy now?
30ashopper avatar
SoWal Insider
#32
can the market be a leading indicator sans retail investors? can the banks be compelled to clear bad assets and lend? can gdp growth happen with high unemployment?


I'd say barely to one and three, as for two, 1.4 trillion in MBS purchases by the FED helped clear bad assets. That money then went back into stocks, corporate bonds, and treasuries. This was one hell of a market stimulus. But it won't help people find work.

(Freddie and Fannie also picked up a lot of bad loans, which we are now on the hook for. Fannie currently onws half of Sandestin!)
Lynnie avatar
SoWal Insider
#33
The lenders build in and expect a 3% default rate. It's double that right now at 6%, yet it's caused a ginormous stall in the system. So, there are 94% good mortgages and notes out there. Not too shabby.

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