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Centrist Dems rip 'tone-deaf' White House

sunspotbaby avatar
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I liked Alex Sink for governor. I voted Republican in some races, but i cast my vote for Sink in this one. Appears that voters tied her to Obama which hurt her in the end. But read what she says about the White House.

But when the candidate (Sink) criticized the White House response to the oil spill and specifically a summer speech by Vice President Joe Biden in a POLITICO article, an angry administration official called her to demand she ?walk back? her assessment, said two sources familiar with the situation.

Sink didn?t deny the exchange.

?I don?t follow anybody?s party line if I don?t think they?re on the right track,? she said when asked about the call.



http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44773.html

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DuneAHH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#2
HER OWN tv ads went beyond 'linking' her to Obama.
Apparently I missed Sink's public campaign statements as to what specific issues she opposes the Dem party or that she disagreed with the administration's handling of the oil spill?

I'm sure I'm not the only voter out there that finds opposition slam ads utterly despicable and a complete waste of time & money, regardless which party they stem from or direct at.

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Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#3
HER OWN tv ads went beyond 'linking' her to Obama.
Apparently I missed Sink's public campaign statements as to what specific issues she opposes the Dem party or that she disagreed with the administration's handling of the oil spill?

I'm sure I'm not the only voter out there that finds opposition slam ads utterly despicable and a complete waste of time & money, regardless which party they stem from or direct at.
You are by far from being the only voter who abhors negative, dirty and despicable ads. The unfortunate part of it is, they seem to work. They certainly do with me. The first candidate or their supporters, that issue a negative ad, automatically loses my vote. They are only full of half truths and are truly unnecessary as they insult the intelligence of the voter.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#4
You are by far from being the only voter who abhors negative, dirty and despicable ads. The unfortunate part of it is, they seem to work. They certainly do with me. The first candidate or their supporters, that issue a negative ad, automatically loses my vote. They are only full of half truths and are truly unnecessary as they insult the intelligence of the voter.

So you didn't vote for Rubio or Scott?
Jdarg avatar
SoWal Expert
#5
So you didn't vote for Rubio or Scott?

I was just thinking the same thing. Scott's ads in particular- vicious and distorted messages right out of the gate. I remember standing in front of the TV and laughing at a guy like Scott trying to make out someone to be a worse human than himself. Alex kept it classy until she didn't have a choice- dragged in the gutter. It seemed to be quite awhile into the campaign before she even mentioned Scott's name.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#6
I was just thinking the same thing. Scott's ads in particular- vicious and distorted messages right out of the gate. I remember standing in front of the TV and laughing at a guy like Scott trying to make out someone to be a worse human than himself. Alex kept it classy until she didn't have a choice- dragged in the gutter. It seemed to be quite awhile into the campaign before she even mentioned Scott's name.
Please note I said or supporters. I consider PBA such and their ads were extremely negative.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#7
Please note I said or supporters. I consider PBA such and their ads were extremely negative.

However their ads didn't come out until after both Scott and Rubio's. Once again you're contradicting yourself. Now get all indignant call me a libtard and storm off to dinner.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#8
However their ads didn't come out until after both Scott and Rubio's. Once again you're contradicting yourself. Now get all indignant call me a libtard and storm off to dinner.
I have never called you a "libtard". That was somebody else. I may be contradicting myself and I may not. It depends on when I first saw the ad, not when it was first aired. I will say contradictory or not, that ad alone changed my mind about voting for Sink. It is really too bad as I had considered her strongly at one point. The election results have really gotten to you, haven't they, SWGB. Now, if you don't mind, I'll storm off to the Commission meeting.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#9
I have never called you a "libtard". That was somebody else. I may be contradicting myself and I may not. It depends on when I first saw the ad, not when it was first aired. I will say contradictory or not, that ad alone changed my mind about voting for Sink. It is really too bad as I had considered her strongly at one point. The election results have really gotten to you, haven't they, SWGB. Now, if you don't mind, I'll storm off to the Commission meeting.

I think someone forgot to take his Aricept.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#10
I think someone forgot to take his Aricept.
What's Aricept?
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#11
What's Aricept?

He's being rude - it's his standard old person insult. :roll:

And the little batturd just red chicleted me for that!

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LuciferSam avatar
Banned
#12
If you forget to take your Aricept, clearly the ****'s not working.
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#13
I think someone forgot to take his Aricept.

If you forget to take your Aricept, clearly the ****'s not working.

And the Sowallers who have lost family members or have family members suffering from Alzheimer's don't find it very funny.
LuciferSam avatar
Banned
#14
And the Sowallers who have lost family members or have family members suffering from Alzheimer's don't find it very funny.

I have lost family members to it. I have no problem discussing the subject candidly.
sunspotbaby avatar
SoWal InsiderAuthor
#15
The snippyness being displayed here lately is tacky and uncalled for. It's becoming boorish and trite in this forum.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#16
And the Sowallers who have lost family members or have family members suffering from Alzheimer's don't find it very funny.

I've lost a grandmother and great aunt to it. The aunt was shipped off to a nursing home where she basically rotted until she passed. That was before people really knew what Alzheimer's was and could discuss it candidly. My grandmother lived a very long life to the ripe old age of 88 when she finally died of old age. She was diagnosed at the age of 78 with Alzheimer's and thanks to medications such as Aricept the years that we were able to spend with her in a lucid and alert manner were greatly extended.

When I make that reference it is generally aimed at an older member of the sowal community who constantly disregards my opinion as being that of a whipper snapper with no life experience who will obviously change and retract once he's seen enough. That gets as old as the Aricept jokes, but doesn't seem to garner near the out pouring of indignation.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#17
Hey young whipper snapper! You obviously see me as a senile, old explosion of ordorous hot air and do not value anything this elder has to say. It is your right to do so as I have said many times and to completely ignore what I, or any othe elder posts. It is also my right to consider you a "whipper snapper"(surprised you knew the term) with no life experience. That is not true. You have life experience. Just not any I agree with or can support. Now, we can continue this useless discourse or we can call a halt to it and be civil. What is your choice?
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#18
And the Sowallers who have lost family members or have family members suffering from Alzheimer's don't find it very funny.
i lost my father and grandfather to it, and it's still funny
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#19
i lost my father and grandfather to it, and it's still funny

I lost my grandfather to it and find NOTHING humorous about it.
Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#20
I lost my grandfather to it and find NOTHING humorous about it.

...there's things in life that you got to laugh about...jokes about old age and death can be downright hilarious in the proper context, sometimes even in the improper context...
Lynnie avatar
SoWal Insider
#21
I forgot what the original post was, already. Talk about a derailing!
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#22
I lost my grandfather to it and find NOTHING humorous about it.
have a glass of healthy red wine tonight and lighten up, because we are all next in line. i find the whole dance of life to be funny, the good with the bad. someone pulling those strings has a sick sense of humor.
DuneAHH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#23
You are by far from being the only voter who abhors negative, dirty and despicable ads. The unfortunate part of it is, they seem to work. They certainly do with me. The first candidate or their supporters, that issue a negative ad, automatically loses my vote. They are only full of half truths and are truly unnecessary as they insult the intelligence of the voter.

Agreed AA- with insertion of my personal caveat... ANY candidate or their supporters... etc, etc. .... LOSES my vote.

I was just thinking the same thing. Scott's ads in particular- vicious and distorted messages right out of the gate. I remember standing in front of the TV and laughing at a guy like Scott trying to make out someone to be a worse human than himself. Alex kept it classy until she didn't have a choice- dragged in the gutter. It seemed to be quite awhile into the campaign before she even mentioned Scott's name.

Sorry JD. I admire and respect YOU... but I'm not buyin' into that statement. Scott demonstrated his manure scum choices from the get-go and I actually thought I'd vote for Sink until she "buckled". Everybody always has choices... headfirst all the way into the proverbial ditch. As American citizens we are ALL "forced" into making headfirst-into-the-ditch choices every single day. I'd hoped Sink could gut it out like a true citizen... but she didn't... so she ended up losing my vote right along with Scott.

I have lost family members to it. I have no problem discussing the subject candidly.

...As have I & many others. The way you deal with 'it' is YOUR PERSONAL choice & RIGHT. And I Cheer You for your forevermore-personal-sunshine example! However... much as I delight in and appreciate you & your intelligence & wit... YOUR style is certainly not everyone's style and that does not make them & their's LESS and/or worthy of dismissive disdain.

The snippyness being displayed here lately is tacky and uncalled for. It's becoming boorish and trite in this forum.

A resounding SECOND to that SSB!
I'd already hit "multi-quote" numerous times when I came upon your succinct summation.
Honestly... I didn't read one single post on this thread after reading yours. Thanks SSB!

And to All... my apologies for my... everlasting...
shortcomings.

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Elephant Child avatar
Beach Lover
#24
i lost my father and grandfather to it, and it's still funny

How sad, hopefully for you, you aren't the next one inline to get "it", and then you will see how funny "it" is...to watch your love one "die mentally" in front of you.

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