Poll Says Majority Want to Keep Health Care Reform

Noone has a clue whats in this bill so cares much about this poll. Existing premiums have risen nearly 30% for those who already have insurance. This plan wasnt to lower costs, it was to have full government control of the health system. Once this bill goes in effect in 2012 people will no doubt run for cover. Ill say it now, "I told you so".

I think Healthcare Reform is now, or will become, settled law. It may need just minor tweeking, as with any major legislation passed. The Republican undertaker, Mitch McConnell, can huff and puff with his blustering antics to try repeal Healthcare Reform, but he will fail.

Once again, the Republicans are totally misreading this election....it is the economy stupid. Move on......

undertaker Mitch McConnell? Its the economy stupid?

Aren't we diplomatic...

Minor Tweeking? This bill does absolutely nothing to lower health care costs. It just makes people like me pay for those who dont have it. And Im far from rich. Thats socialism and its never worked nor will it now. But, you seam to be ok with it considering your quote from Lawrence O'Donnell. Yea, he's just riddled with facts[laughing].

Noone has a clue whats in this bill so cares much about this poll. Existing premiums have risen nearly 30% for those who already have insurance. This plan wasnt to lower costs, it was to have full government control of the health system. Once this bill goes in effect in 2012 people will no doubt run for cover. Ill say it now, "I told you so".

Is this the first year your insurance premiums increased?

Noone has a clue whats in this bill so cares much about this poll. Existing premiums have risen nearly 30% for those who already have insurance. This plan wasnt to lower costs, it was to have full government control of the health system. Once this bill goes in effect in 2012 people will no doubt run for cover. Ill say it now, "I told you so".

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People in the field have gleaned it. If you want bipartisan information, follow the Kaiser Family Foundation Kaiser Health Reform Gateway: Health Care Reform and Health Insurance Reform Analysis, Data and Information to capture a better idea of what?s in the bill and when things come into play. Good nonpartisan site to keep around if you really care. Here's a video that simplifies some details:
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Is this the first year your insurance premiums increased?

No. But never has it risen this much. And its rising for every exisiting policy holder. And we as a company may face dropping everyone due to this. And this will happen all across the small business spectrum.

Lets not forget that this plan was supposed to lower costs, not initiate a government run system. Well, some of us knew this was the plan the whole time, but our media didnt feel like educating the folks out of not offending the almighty barack

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People in the field have gleaned it. If you want bipartisan information, follow the Kaiser Family Foundation Kaiser Health Reform Gateway: Health Care Reform and Health Insurance Reform Analysis, Data and Information to capture a better idea of what?s in the bill and when things come into play. Good nonpartisan site to keep around if you really care. Here's a video that simplifies some details:
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YouTube - Health Reform Explained Video: "Health Reform Hits Main Street"


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Cute in all, but one just needs to read into it to see the little specifics available to us. Who would have thought that in a free america a bill would pass that noone even read or knew about. Gotta love our modern liberal party hanging under the democratic sign

No. But never has it risen this much. And its rising for every exisiting policy holder. And we as a company may face dropping everyone due to this. And this will happen all across the small business spectrum.

Lets not forget that this plan was supposed to lower costs, not initiate a government run system. Well, some of us knew this was the plan the whole time, but our media didnt feel like educating the folks out of not offending the almighty barack

Then you were lucky. Many many company and people got ridiculous increases every year, usually with a cut in benefits to keep the increases from being too high.

I have said it before, at least this year there are some very important additions and improvements, so if you get a small increase, you are at least getting additional benefits. You don't want government run healthcare, yet it is OK for the insurance companies to screw you every year?

I approach most polls very skeptically. Its pretty easy to structure one to get results to match one's agenda (and in my experience most polls are structured to match agendas.)

I also totally missed the question where they ask people about having the IRS involved in their healthcare.

Funny how that got left out.

Cute in all, but one just needs to read into it to see the little specifics available to us. Who would have thought that in a free america a bill would pass that noone even read or knew about. Gotta love our modern liberal party hanging under the democratic sign

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turn off the talking points and point out those "little specifics". If Kaiser Foundation can't help you understand the questions you have about your specific situation, then I'm going to guess you just want to biotch without having really tried to understand anything. :roll:

You remind me of kkddbb. any relation?


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turn off the talking points and point out those "little specifics". If Kaiser Foundation can't help you understand the questions you have about your specific situation, then I'm going to guess you just want to biotch without having really tried to understand anything. :roll:

You remind me of kkddbb. any relation?


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Something tells me kkeith's middle name begins with the letter dd and we know his last name starts with bb.

Actually from what I understand, this healthcare bill is very similar to what Mitt Romney, a Republican, introduced in Massachusetts.

Apparently I live in a different universe - not only am I aware that MANY bills pass without politicians knowing what is in them, I can easily find info/explanations of the health care bill, my health insurance benefits and costs have not undergone any major changes, nor has the IRS's involvement in my health care. :idontno:

What has changed is that some people I know can now get medical care - people with jobs who work hard BTW.

Then you were lucky. Many many company and people got ridiculous increases every year, usually with a cut in benefits to keep the increases from being too high.

I have said it before, at least this year there are some very important additions and improvements, so if you get a small increase, you are at least getting additional benefits. You don't want government run healthcare, yet it is OK for the insurance companies to screw you every year?

Insurance companies screw us, but the government doesnt? Isnt it the government that shoved this plan down our throats even though the majority of the American people opposed it? And isnt it the government that will fee us if we dont sign on? The same government thats allowing waivers to specific companies they see fit. No one organization screws the american people more than the federal goverment

My increases were a drop in the bucket, until now.

We will see in less than two years the real impact of this bill and all this silly debating the obvious will be over

This bill does absolutely nothing to decrease cost and better the quality of healthcare, period.

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turn off the talking points and point out those "little specifics". If Kaiser Foundation can't help you understand the questions you have about your specific situation, then I'm going to guess you just want to biotch without having really tried to understand anything. :roll:

You remind me of kkddbb. any relation?


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pleasant. ive been working on revising our healthcare plan here in this company for a long time. The increases are unreal and quality of each plan isnt any better. These insurace companies now have to compete with the federal government and they see all too well whats coming down the pike. Its business 101, really.

If you need me to provide specifics to a bill you support than I rest my case...

Im didnt join on here to argue but rather to get involved in important debates on important issues. And I joined because I couldnt believe with my own eyes the misinformation thats out there even here in walton cnty

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Who will be required to obtain insurance and what penalties will they face if they fail to comply?
Individual Requirement - Kaiser Health Reform


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Apparently I live in a different universe - not only am I aware that MANY bills pass without politicians knowing what is in them, I can easily find info/explanations of the health care bill, my health insurance benefits and costs have not undergone any major changes, nor has the IRS's involvement in my health care. :idontno:

What has changed is that some people I know can now get medical care - people with jobs who work hard BTW.

you hit the nail on the head about pols not reading bills. but to not read a healthcare overhaul bill?

youre plan may have not been changed, but it will no doubt. especially if youre a single payer. again, most of this bill has not been implemented thus far. And yes, the IRS has a very specific roll in the very near future. Sad but true cause we all know how wonderful the IRS is to deal with.

lets hope our pols actually read what they shove down our throats in the future. and thats on both sides of the aisle

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Who will be required to obtain insurance and what penalties will they face if they fail to comply?
Individual Requirement - Kaiser Health Reform


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we all will if we opt out. again, this isnt in effect and wont be for awhile that in itself doesnt make sense and im not sure why it isnt now.

if in two years you dont have insurance you will no doubt get contacted by some goverment official as to why. The bill is clear, there are penalties only we dont know what they are just yet.

Its a loaded question as of now. Time will tell. Im certain much of this bill will be amended, especially penalties. Look, 23 state attorneys are suing saying its unconstitutional for the government to force anything onto us, especially healthcare coverage. Theres a reason for this.

Something tells me kkeith's middle name begins with the letter dd and we know his last name starts with bb.

Actually from what I understand, this healthcare bill is very similar to what Mitt Romney, a Republican, introduced in Massachusetts.

this bill is nothing like romneycare. and romneycare is very different today versus what it was originally drafted as. i do think it should be a state by state issue, not a completely overhauled institution run by the feds

click the link

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People in the field have gleaned it. If you want bipartisan information, follow the Kaiser Family Foundation Kaiser Health Reform Gateway: Health Care Reform and Health Insurance Reform Analysis, Data and Information to capture a better idea of what?s in the bill and when things come into play. Good nonpartisan site to keep around if you really care. Here's a video that simplifies some details:
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YouTube - Health Reform Explained Video: "Health Reform Hits Main Street"


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The Kaiser site is great, even has a state by state analysis. Thanks Rita.

this bill is nothing like romneycare. and romneycare is very different today versus what it was originally drafted as. i do think it should be a state by state issue, not a completely overhauled institution run by the feds

I'm just going by what I hear from Maddow, Olby, Lawrence Odonnel, Ed Shultz, John stewart, Nancy Pelosi, Alan Grayson, and of course the supreme Messiah himself, Barack Hussein Obama aka Kwazy Kenyan Sociawist overlord.

I'm just going by what I hear from Maddow, Olby, Lawrence Odonnel, Ed Shultz, John stewart, Nancy Pelosi, Alan Grayson, and of course the supreme Messiah himself, Barack Hussein Obama aka Kwazy Kenyan Sociawist overlord.

ok now that was funny! and hey, at least you admit it

click the link

i did. i had already seen it and its great! its also on the surface. again, most of this bill isnt in effect. those of us that have worked with the government know where this brings us in the future. and this nation didnt get to where it is in the world by government programs such as this. but your right, its a great link no doubt

i did. i had already seen it and its great! its also on the surface. again, most of this bill isnt in effect. those of us that have worked with the government know where this brings us in the future. and this nation didnt get to where it is in the world by government programs such as this. but your right, its a great link no doubt

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It clearly states that and that is well known.


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It clearly states that and that is well known.


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im not so sure its well-known to many