Bay County School Board Hostage situation

I'm fairly certain the next few meetings will be slightly more invasive than a TSA screening.

What no one has mentioned yet is that this guy was a convicted felon with a gun. Where did he get it?

Probably the same place he got the rifle he used to shoot at his wife when he was stalking her. :roll: Or at the recent gun show.

Another legally recognized nut job and convicted criminal with a gun.

Fla. shooter's wife says husband 'misunderstood' - Yahoo! News

Class warfare, with real bullets.

Felons know other felons and can get guns easier than the average Joe.
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No, wack-a-doo whose twisted mind latched onto a movie and incendiary rhetoric to justify yet another episode of violence.

Since the wife who claims he wouldn't hurt anyone was either unaware or complicit in his long term plan, I doubt she is a credible source.

And the way you get an answer as to why you did not get hired after your probation period is not by doing nothing for 6 months and then trying to kill people.

Felons know other felons and can get guns easier than the average Joe.
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I know ex-felons, none of them own guns or have any idea how to get one.

They kept talking about how he has been preparing for this, even noting that he took some self-defense classes a year ago. Maybe he should have also taken some target practice. The guy popped off several rounds and all he hit was the paper on the desk and himself.

If the felon wants a gun, he is not going to go through the legal channels to get one, which supports the theory that regardless of how hard you make it to get a gun, the criminals will always be able to get them.

And Yes Ginger would have been better off attacking with a chair instead of her purse, she is very lucky to be alive.

It was all very scarey and could happen at anytime to anyone.

If the felon wants a gun, he is not going to go through the legal channels to get one, which supports the theory that regardless of how hard you make it to get a gun, the criminals will always be able to get them.

And Yes Ginger would have been better off attacking with a chair instead of her purse, she is very lucky to be alive.

It was all very scarey and could happen at anytime to anyone.

Felons can only obtain guns illegally. It's illegal in the first place for them to own one.

Had she attacked him with a chair she and more people would most likely be dead. The purse likely didn't hurt him, a chair would have hurt and probably exacerbated the situation much faster.

You're much better in a situation like that to stall as much as possible to allow law enforcement to arrive.

My theory (based on complete speculation) is that the reason Ginger is alive is because the gunman didn't take her seriously. Reminds me of when my grandmother used to try to smack me when I was in high school.

I think this video will be used by local governments as an example of what to do/what not to do during this type of situation.

Breaking news

It was a second hand bag CNN reports.

Someone tries to take me hostage, they are getting attacked with whatever I can find - typically a purse or something in it. Hell, I'll put my camera in a sock and beat you with it.

Not saying that is always the smartest move, but it's how some of us are programmed.

Somehow we got on the topic of self defense at dinner one night and of all the dirty and maiming tactics we were taught, both Mama Scooterbug and I ONLY draw the line at gouging out someone's eyes with our fingers.

I think we'd get along real well with Ginger.

Scooterbug,

Your on my team.

My theory (based on complete speculation) is that the reason Ginger is alive is because the gunman didn't take her seriously. Reminds me of when my grandmother used to try to smack me when I was in high school.

I think this video will be used by local governments as an example of what to do/what not to do during this type of situation.

I have always loved those little feisty grandmothers.

I have always loved those little feisty grandmothers.

Me too- and my point exactly. Feisty is a trait that makes us take someone less seriously as a real threat.

Ginger is about to be on Lawrence O'Donnell right now on MSNBC. Tune in now. Channel 55 on Mediacom cable in Sowal.

Me too- and my point exactly. Feisty is a trait that makes us take someone less seriously as a real threat.

Ginger is about to be on Lawrence O'Donnell right now on MSNBC. Tune in now. Channel 55 on Mediacom cable in Sowal.

Three types of people.

1. Runs to the hall and calls 911
2. Runs to hall and out the building doing nothing but wetting pants.
3. Just reacts and does not truly think of the consequences. Known to run into burning buildings.

I just think its cool that #3 still exist. Feisty old lady or not... Had another #3 been sitting in one of those chairs they would have pounced the moment she hit him. Luckily, he is either a bad shot or had no intentions of killing.

I think it's pretty clear he chose not to kill her. From what I read today, he was a very good marksman, so perhaps he chose not to kill any of them. It is a tragic story all the way around IMO. It was pretty amazing that none of those guys jumped him while she had him distracted...

Ms. Littleton saw her fellow man in danger and did what she could to help them without regard for her own safety. By definition she is a hero. It may not have have been the "smart" thing to do, but courage and bravery never look "smart" to the self-centered. If I were in peril I would take Ms. Littleton on my side every day instead of the "smart" guy.

I know ex-felons, none of them own guns or have any idea how to get one.

and? :idontno:

Someone tries to take me hostage, they are getting attacked with whatever I can find - typically a purse or something in it. Hell, I'll put my camera in a sock and beat you with it.

Not saying that is always the smartest move, but it's how some of us are programmed.

Somehow we got on the topic of self defense at dinner one night and of all the dirty and maiming tactics we were taught, both Mama Scooterbug and I ONLY draw the line at gouging out someone's eyes with our fingers.

I think we'd get along real well with Ginger.

Me too! You are right, some are just wired to be more aggressive in that type of scenario, while others are content to play it safe and let anyone else be the hero . I think what she did wasn't the smartest thing to do, but in her mind at least she was doing something .
I would use my thumbs in some eyeballs if it meant me getting away. :wave:

Some people act and some people commentate. Give me an actor like Ms. Littleton any day over the Monday morning quarterbacks.

On television the other night she said she wished she'd had a brick or the kitchen sink in that purse. She has a good sense of humor.

Ginger is quite lucky the guy didn't shoot her, but I still love that she whacked him with her purse. 😀

One of the interesting facts I found when researching TSA/airline safety recently - an expert in one article said 2 of the things that ACTUALLY improved safety post 9-11 (not taking away nail clippers and my yogurt etc.) was reinforcing the cockpit door and passengers ready and willing to fight back.

"Act first, think later" doesn't always end well, but at the end of the day I still prefer someone acting to someone doing nothing.

Me too! You are right, some are just wired to be more aggressive in that type of scenario, while others are content to play it safe and let anyone else be the hero . I think what she did wasn't the smartest thing to do, but in her mind at least she was doing something .
I would use my thumbs in some eyeballs if it meant me getting away. :wave:

I've tried to imagine what I would have done in this situation and while we can never know for sure what we would have done I'm pretty sure that I would not have gone back in there with a purse as my only weapon :wave:

Well, yes, but at the time that was what she had.

I don't know what I would have done but if I was going to go at him like Ginger did I would have tried to get my two hands on the gun and get it pointed away from anyone and then screamed to the others to hit whack him, jump on him, bite him, etc.

The smack his hand with a purse was an all or nothing move.