Anyone celebrating secession?

Minnie, me thinks thou doth protesteth to mucheth.

Methinks that it is much easier to reply with a snappy one liner than it is to really debate an issue with facts.

It's just that I have studied the war extensively and it rubs me that people think it is so one sided. I guess I just expect Americans to know more about one of the most horrific and deadly events of our nation.

Merry Christmas to all, I have presents to wrap. :wave:

Methinks that it is much easier to reply with a snappy one liner than it is to really debate an issue with facts.

It's just that I have studied the war extensively and it rubs me that people think it is so one sided.
Merry Christmas to all, I have presents to wrap. :wave:

No we shouldn't point fingers at the South. After all it only took them 100 years after the Civil War to start to consider basic civil rights and that was only after it was forced upon them.:roll: Now as far as being able to get over it, well, we'll give them another 100 years.

The ruling class wants to keep on ruling. No matter who they have to stand on to do it. I think it's more about preserving a way of life and continuing to do things "the way it's always been done". If you grow up in that system you would probably fight to keep it that way along with your family and neighbors. The moral compass spins and spins after generations of owning slaves. We'd all like to think differently and that we would be better than that. Maybe we would.

]The ruling class wants to keep on ruling.[/B] No matter who they have to stand on to do it. I think it's more about preserving a way of life and continuing to do things "the way it's always been done". If you grow up in that system you would probably fight to keep it that way along with your family and neighbors. The moral compass spins and spins after generations of owning slaves. We'd all like to think differently and that we would be better than that. Maybe we would.

The crux of the matter.

Did anyone hear the NPR show a month or so ago about how whites will not be the majority by 2010 and the undercurrents and reactions to that shift? There was a term assigned to the fear of no longer being the majority (as in no longer being the most powerful, and how it plays out in culture and politics). Anyway, maybe someone will remember. It was a very interesting program, and explained a lot about the current neoconservative political climate.

The crux of the matter.

Did anyone hear the NPR show a month or so ago about how whites will not be the majority by 2010 and the undercurrents and reactions to that shift? There was a term assigned to the fear of no longer being the majority (as in no longer being the most powerful, and how it plays out in culture and politics). Anyway, maybe someone will remember. It was a very interesting program, and explained a lot about the current neoconservative political climate.

Explains a lot about fear. Whites will continue to hold 99% of wealth and power but being outnumbered by only one sends some into a state of panic, realized or not.

The ruling class wants to keep on ruling. No matter who they have to stand on to do it. I think it's more about preserving a way of life and continuing to do things "the way it's always been done". If you grow up in that system you would probably fight to keep it that way along with your family and neighbors. The moral compass spins and spins after generations of owning slaves. We'd all like to think differently and that we would be better than that. Maybe we would.

Change is the biggest fear for many. Whether good or bad for society too many are only concerned how it will effect (affect?) their lives.

The ruling class wants to keep on ruling. No matter who they have to stand on to do it. I think it's more about preserving a way of life and continuing to do things "the way it's always been done". If you grow up in that system you would probably fight to keep it that way along with your family and neighbors. The moral compass spins and spins after generations of owning slaves. We'd all like to think differently and that we would be better than that. Maybe we would.

Such systems are riddled with contradictory thinking, inconsistencies, double standards and hypocrisy. Some children will pick up on this and that will present a greater conflict than being a social outcast within that system.

Those who criticize those who take issue Secession Balls are called narrow minded because the celebrants state that they are celebrating States rights, but they are just as guilty for conveniently leaving out an important part of the reason for secession, which was slavery; creating this warm and fuzzy notion about state's empowerment and this being an important part of history.

Disney does the same with Cinderella, empowering little girls with the notion that breaking free of unjust oppression, you will meet Prince Charming and live happily ever after.

Maybe a glass slipper is what the Son's of the Confederacy need to make them feel just about recognizing secession with a Ball, but it still doesn't take away the stench of smelly feet.

Such systems are riddled with contradictory thinking, inconsistencies, double standards and hypocrisy. Some children will pick up on this and that will present a greater conflict than being a social outcast within that system.

Every society deals with similar issues. Such is life.

Money talks and BS walks.

In 1860, South Carolina was the third wealthiest state in the country.

In 2009, the Palmetto state was 45th.

For those historically challenged, the Civil War began in 1861.

Every society deals with similar issues. Such is life.

It is like that everywhere to at least some degree. Personally growing up I probably was not subject to extreme familial and societal pressure to maintain a particular way of life. I certainly never felt like I was born into the ruling class. [Edit] So in conclusion, I really don't know how I would have reacted to a situation in which the system exerted greater pressure or offered greater rewards.

Methinks that it is much easier to reply with a snappy one liner than it is to really debate an issue with facts.

It's just that I have studied the war extensively and it rubs me that people think it is so one sided. I guess I just expect Americans to know more about one of the most horrific and deadly events of our nation.

Merry Christmas to all, I have presents to wrap. :wave:

America was at the precipice of war well before Ft. Sumter.

I live in a neighborhood where being white is already the minority, and I live in a city where white is the minority, I don't see the change to the national population affecting me. I have lived this change for years. Unlike many we did not move out. We stayed.

I am sure many who do not live in racially mixed communities fear the change.

Hopefully they will learn there is no reason for the concern for truly only by living with change do you soon realize we are very alike.

It is like that everywhere to at least some degree. Personally growing up I probably was not subject to extreme familial and societal pressure to maintain a particular way of life.

You keep quiet and go up there and get your communion bread like everyone else.

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Thanks for bringing the cat out of retirement. Dude, valley girl or not- that McCain girl is a hotty.