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Of Social Security and shenanigans: An open letter to my son Jim

www.waltonsun.com

2/12/2011

Dear Jim:

It was good seeing you and Stephanie last weekend in the ATL. With her new ?do,? she looks like Uma Thurman?s Mia in ?Pulp Fiction? ? maybe better. Stay away from pawnshops; remember what happened to Ving Rhames.


Young people, like you, often wonder about their prospects of receiving Social Security benefits. Once you mentioned Social Security was akin to a Ponzi scheme, and I respectfully disagree. In 25 years, assuming no changes, Social Security benefits will be cut 25 percent. With a Ponzi scheme, benefits get sliced 100 percent and much, much sooner. For instance when I do a retirement projection for clients, I use a lower rate of inflation for Social Security to allow for future benefit reductions. I may not make it 25 more years but I bet your mother will live that long (and look good, too).


Today there is a deadserious game afoot to eliminate Social Security and to replace it with private accounts. The geniuses who wracked their brains for this harebrained scheme are the same folks who thought trading credit default swaps was a good idea. The Social Security privateers have a new tact this go-around: The federal deficit. Currently, Social Security does not cost the government one dime and the lame-stream media sits there like the tar baby and doesn?t say a thing.


Ignore the fearmongering swirling around the Social Security Trust fund. FACT: The Social Security Trust fund owns United States Treasury bonds. No financial professional with a lick of sense would dismiss a TBond as a mere I.O.U. like Stuart Varney of Fox News. The truth is financial markets view it as almost inconceivable that the U.S. government will not honor its bonds. Investors gladly own Treasury bonds and receive record low interest coupons because of minuscule default risk.

The New York Times once parroted the same lame line as Fox. Equal opportunity for ignorance, I guess.


Democrats have a worthless track record, vis-a-vis Social Security and young people, because basically their solution consists of raising taxes. President Ronald Reagan hiked Social Security taxes steeply during his first term (an inconvenient truth to many), but we can fix Social Security funding woes without jacking up anyone?s taxes. Raise the normal retirement age to 67 by 2012 and adjust it modestly by one month every two years, modify how the pre-retirement benefit formula is calculated for workers in the top 70th percent of earners and use a less generous (but what some economists claim is more accurate) inflation index for current beneficiaries.


If you don?t want to raise taxes then you have to cut benefits. The argument is not ideological but rather elementary school arithmetic.


Recently I challenged a college professor?s argument that Social Security should shift to a defined contribution plan. The defined contribution model (401k plan) is inferior to defined benefit plans because of high hidden costs and low participation rates. A more important, although currently ignored, weakness of defined contribution plans is how volatility (market fluctuations) affects portfolio survivability. The sequence of market returns in retirement distribution portfolios can be beneficial or catastrophic depending on what Jim Otar calls the ?luck? factor. Check out his website: Otar & Associates ?


Banks, brokers and insurance companies peddling retirement income products are licking their chops in anticipation. Remember 2008: Markets gyrate ? sometimes dramatically ? but these jokers have the deck stacked in their favor not yours.


I am so proud of you and your career.

Love always, Dad.



Buz Livingston is a certified financial planner. He operates Livingston Financial Planning Inc. focusing on hourly financial planning and investment management. Contact him directly at 850-267-1068 or at buz@ LivingstonFinancial.net? .

BUZ LIVINGSTON
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#27
The "me, me, me...I get sick of it" by Buz and the "Perfectly said" response by Poppy expresses to "me" a great deal of what is wrong with our support system of the disabled and needy.
If you are not of the mind, "mine come first, I shall make sure they are taken care of and then I will look after the others", you were not raised as I was and that is just fine. The fact that there is a need for support programs for those in need is a given. The fact that there is corruption, fraud and abuse of our present system is also a given. We need to once again clean up our welfare programs. It can be done and all would be the better for it.

It's a double standard liberals have.. the "me me me" comes from both sides. The people who pay more than they get out of a system and the people who pay less or near nothing and get more.
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#28
The "me, me, me...I get sick of it" by Buz and the "Perfectly said" response by Poppy expresses to "me" a great deal of what is wrong with our support system of the disabled and needy.
If you are not of the mind, "mine come first, I shall make sure they are taken care of and then I will look after the others", you were not raised as I was and that is just fine. The fact that there is a need for support programs for those in need is a given. The fact that there is corruption, fraud and abuse of our present system is also a given. We need to once again clean up our welfare programs. It can be done and all would be the better for it.

You had to mention my name and the word wrong in the same sentence didn't you. You also refer to your strict father and the way you were raised in many of your posts and I have avoided responding until now. I feel sorry for you Andy, my father was also a Mason, a conservative, and a part time preacher. One of his hobbies was writing and volunteering to deliver sermons for absent ministers around the mid-south. The one single thing I loved most about my father was he never tried to force me to live his life. He encouraged me to make my own decisions and do what I felt was right for me, it never mattered whether it was what he would have chosen for me.
My dad always loved and supported me and was there for advice when I screwed up which was often. I feel I was luckier than you.
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#29
I thought the "me, me, me" was right on. We didn't get to this point because concern for the greater good was priority #1, we got here because everyone needed themselves and their special interests taken care of - regardless of consequences.

Once again parroting the rhetoric is drowning out common sense.

Do you REALLY think noone here supports reforms to decrease the number of people on welfare?

Do you really think a life spent living on welfare or Social Security disability is such a great thing that anyone wants to encourage it or than anyone opts for it when they have other options?

P.S. One of the provisions of Obamacare is to make it harder for individuals to file fraudulent SS disability claims and companies to get paid for suspect Medicare claims.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#30
Poppy, either my reading interpretation and yours is entirely different or I'm not making myself clear due to my inability to express myself in words of the English language. I thought it would be clear I was saying "what is wrong with our support system of disabled and needy". This does not relate to you, personally and if you think it does, I apologize. I was using your statement and Buz's to make a point, not to criticize.
Also, there is absolutely no need to feel sorry for me and my upbring. I didn't realize until I had left home just how much my father's guidance had affected me. I have no less respect, admiration and love for my father than you do for yours. One thing more. My father gave up flying after he soloed so I could commence at the age of 14. A lot of fathers would not make such a sacrifice for their offspring. While I realize many would, it gave me the insight to know where my career would be. I have always been most admiring and appreciative of my father. You, Poppy, are no luckier than me and, as I said, you certainly don't need to feel sorry for me. I am comfortable in my own skin, as the saying goes.

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Bob avatar
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#31
Florida requires personal injury protection? I'd be surprised by that. If so that's definitely a law we have to repeal! :lol:
try again regarding vehicle functionality
Bob avatar
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#32
Poppy, either my reading interpretation and yours is entirely different or I'm not making myself clear due to my inability to express myself in words of the English language. I thought it would be clear I was saying "what is wrong with our support system of disabled and needy". This does not relate to you, personally and if you think it does, I apologize. I was using your statement and Buz's to make a point, not to criticize.
Also, there is absolutely no need to feel sorry for me and my upbring. I didn't realize until I had left home just how much my father's guidance had affeted me. I have no less respect, admiration and love for my father than you do for yours. One thing more. My father gave up flying after he soloed so I could commence at the age of 14. A lot of fathers would not make such a sacrifice for their offspring. While I realize many would, it gave me the insight to know where my career would be. I have always been most admiring and appreciative of my father. You, Poppy, are no luckier than me and, as I said, you certainly don't need to feel sorry for me. I am comfortable in my own skin, as the saying goes.
13 me and my's and 13 I's.
Bob avatar
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#33
It's a double standard liberals have.. the "me me me" comes from both sides. The people who pay more than they get out of a system and the people who pay less or near nothing and get more.
does not apply to most here, and I would wager the most conservative geriatrics here are mining entitlements for all their worth. the black and white vision you possess mandates that if you do not have a choice here? your supposition is that you are for certain mandates/programs only out of self interest. that cements my idea of your worldview.
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#34
Poppy, either my reading interpretation and yours is entirely different or I'm not making myself clear due to my inability to express myself in words of the English language. I thought it would be clear I was saying "what is wrong with our support system of disabled and needy". This does not relate to you, personally and if you think it does, I apologize. I was using your statement and Buz's to make a point, not to criticize.
Also, there is absolutely no need to feel sorry for me and my upbring. I didn't realize until I had left home just how much my father's guidance had affected me. I have no less respect, admiration and love for my father than you do for yours. One thing more. My father gave up flying after he soloed so I could commence at the age of 14. A lot of fathers would not make such a sacrifice for their offspring. While I realize many would, it gave me the insight to know where my career would be. I have always been most admiring and appreciative of my father. You, Poppy, are no luckier than me and, as I said, you certainly don't need to feel sorry for me. I am comfortable in my own skin, as the saying goes.

Wrong again, my dad was better and could beat your dad in a fight, na-na-na-na-na.

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