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CFLs - the bulb everyone except the government hates

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Though anti-populist in the extreme, the bulb ban in fact evinces none of the polished wonkery you’d expect from sophisticated technocrats. For starters, it’s not clear what the point is. Why should the government try to make consumers use less electricity? There’s no foreign policy reason. Electricity comes mostly from coal, natural gas and nuclear plants, all domestic sources. So presumably the reason has something to do with air pollution or carbon-dioxide emissions.

But banning light bulbs is one of the least efficient ways imaginable to attack those problems. A lamp using power from a clean source is treated the same as a lamp using power from a dirty source. A ban gives electricity producers no incentive to reduce emissions.

Nor does it allow households to make choices about how best to conserve electricity. A well-designed policy would allow different people to make different tradeoffs among different uses to produce the most happiness (“utility” in econ-speak) for a given amount of power. Maybe I want to burn a lot of incandescent bulbs but dry my clothes outdoors and keep the air conditioner off. Maybe I want to read by warm golden light instead of watching a giant plasma TV.

What matters, from a public policy perspective, isn’t any given choice but the total amount of electricity I use (which is itself only a proxy for the total emissions caused by generating that electricity). If they’re really interested in environmental quality, policy makers shouldn’t care how households get to that total. They should just raise the price of electricity, through taxes or higher rates, to discourage using it.

Instead, the law raises the price of light bulbs, but not the price of using them. In fact, its supporters loudly proclaim that the new bulbs will cost less to use. If true, the savings could encourage people to keep the lights on longer.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...ncle-sam-gets-to-choose-virginia-postrel.html

Crony capitalism at its best. Poorly designed, negatively impacting those that are most vulnerable the most, and accomplishing very little of the overarching goal it was supposed to address.

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Andy A avatar
Andy ABeach Fanatic
#52
Has anyone considered how many people will just ignore the warnings and throw broken ones in the trash? If they really are dangerous...Hmmm.
30ashopper avatar
30ashopperSoWal InsiderAuthor
#53
Has anyone considered how many people will just ignore the warnings and throw broken ones in the trash? If they really are dangerous...Hmmm.

What else can you do with them? (I'm not aware of a recycling program here in Walton county.) These bulbs will end up in our landfills for sure.
LuciferSam avatar
LuciferSamBanned
#54
From what I gather, the dangers of mercury toxicity in the home are exagerrated. There is as much mercury in a fever thermometer as in 125 CFLs. I personally wouldn't be concerned with a single broken CFL even if it happened on my bed. The problem is with accumulation in the landfills. I'm sure plenty of fluorescent lights have been thrown in the trash for decades.

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Beach Runner avatar
Beach Runnerbeats on hood
#55
From what I gather, the dangers of mercury toxicity in the home are exagerrated. There is as much mercury in a fever thermometer as in 125 CFLs. I personally wouldn't be concerned with a single broken CFL even if it happened on my bed. The problem is with accumulation in the landfills. I'm sure plenty of flourescent lights have been thrown in the trash for decades.
Are mercury thermometers even available anymore? Our daughter has a history of frequent respiratory infections (needs tonsils removed just like my sister had to do at 40, but the physicians are trying to delay it). When she'd get high fevers, we'd compare the readings off the mercury thermometer and two digital ones. The digital ones that can be bought at drugstores were inconsistent, but the mercury one was always consistent. Unfortunately it was dropped and broken. Yes, we followed all of the cleanup guidelines.

We'd like a new one.
Minnie avatar
MinnieBeach Fanatic
#56
Mercury themometers were banned in the US, why................too dangerous. Kinda ironic isn't it.

http://www.ewire.com/display.cfm/Wire_ID/1224

"Phasing out mercury-containing thermometers is a necessary step to help
reduce mercury pollution to our environment," said Pete Didisheim of the
Natural Resources Council of Maine. "More importantly, we need leadership from
the federal government in taking care of the hundreds of tons of surplus
mercury that will be retired from obsolete manufacturing processes over the
next decade. This bill could help provide that federal leadership on mercury
stockpiles
Beach Runner avatar
Beach Runnerbeats on hood
#57
I wonder if they're banned in other countries? Maybe hubby can smuggle one in on a business trip? Let's see, Europe coming up soon, a break, then Australia. :scratch:
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scooterbug44SoWal Expert
#58
The mercury when a CFL bulb breaks is vapor. A typical bulb contains about 4 milligrams.

The mercury when a thermometer breaks is liquid and highly toxic. An old fashioned thermometer contains about 500 milligrams.

The mercury saved from using a CFLs is far less than the mercury released by breaking one or throwing it away - because mercury is also in the coal we burn to produce electricity.

Most major hardware chains offer free recycling of the bulbs and some manufacturers have free mail back service.

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