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Emerald Drifter avatar
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#4378
Conspiracy theories are not investigated. The election meddling was proven by our intelligence agencies and Mueller to be by trump’s pal Putin..

Are you living in a cave? Two years of investigation of the Russian collusion conspiracy theory by Mueller's team and nothing, nothing. And if there was something to it, we would not be dealing with the silly Adam Schiff/Ukraine easter egg hunt. Repeat: if Mueller's investigation was sufficient to "hang" Trump he would have already been ousted.

But if you want to hold onto the Russian collusion CONSPIRACY THEORY, here's a little background music:

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#4379
Here's your list of the leftist conspiracy theorists:

We’re Naming And Shaming The Absolutely Worst Reporters On The Russian Collusion Conspiracy Theory


(MSNBC screengrab)

AMBER ATHEYWHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT
March 27, 20196:05 PM ET
Attorney General Bill Barr revealed this weekend that special counsel Robert Mueller did not find that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government, dealing a hefty blow to a large swath of the media.

Perhaps most damaged were the individual anchors and reporters who bet their careers on proving that President Donald Trump conspired with a foreign power to steal an election. These journalists authored fake stories, gave breathless coverage to the alleged scandal and ultimately misled the public.


We’ve compiled a list of some of the worst offenders.

Rachel Maddow (MSNBC)

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow has been one of the most prominent voices on the Russian conspiracy, spending more time on the collusion narrative than any other issue, according to The Intercept.

Between Feb. 20 and March 31, 2017, Russia coverage accounted for 53 percent of Maddow’s broadcasts.


Maddow was so devastated by the news that Mueller wasn’t indicting the president or his family last Friday that she was holding back tears during her opening monologue. Maddow’s viewers were apparently unhappy as well — she dropped half-a-million viewers the week after the Mueller report dropped.

Manu Raju / Jeremy Herb (CNN)

Raju and Herb were responsible for a fake news story at CNN claiming that Donald Trump Jr. had advance access to stolen Democratic documents and emails from WikiLeaks. According to the duo’s reporting, Trump Jr. received an email with an encryption key for the documents on Sep. 4, 2016.

As other outlets later clarified, Trump Jr. received the email on Sep. 14, one day after WikiLeaks had already released the documents publicly.


These two reporters were also behind another CNN story that required a major update, regarding former Trump attorney Michael Cohen’s 2017 testimony to Congress and alleged edits made by Trump’s legal team. (RELATED: CNN Adds Major Update To Michael Cohen Story)

Carl Bernstein / Jim Sciutto (CNN)

Bernstein and Sciutto reported in August 2018 that Michael Cohen was prepared to tell Congress that Trump knew about his son meeting with Russians in Trump Tower before the meeting occurred.

The story flew in the face of Cohen’s prior testimony that he did not know about the meeting in advance. Cohen’s attorney at the time, Lanny Davis, later said that he was a source for CNN’s story and made a mistake by claiming Cohen had any information regarding the Trump Tower meeting.

CNN has refused to retract the story.

Natasha Bertrand (The Atlantic)

Bertrand authored a story in February 2018 that made a big to-do about Roger Stone’s “secret messages” with WikiLeaks, suggesting that Stone was an intermediary between WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign.

The full communications between Stone and WikiLeaks, which occurred over Twitter DM, are relatively innocuous and show WikiLeaks chastising Stone for public perception that they had a relationship with one another. Stone was never charged for allegedly lying about his communications with WikiLeaks. (EXCLUSIVE: Roger Stone’s Full WikiLeaks Conversation)

“The content of the exchange with WikiLeaks shows neither any claim by me to have any information beyond what Assange himself had said publicly and reiterates the statement by WikiLeaks that I had not communicated with them prior to the release of the DNC emails that were both accurate and so damaging to Hillary,” Stone told The Daily Caller.

Ken Dilanian (NBC News)

Dilanian claimed in an August 2017 report that former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s notes during the infamous Trump Tower meeting referenced political “donations” to the Republican National Committee (RNC).

A spokesperson for former Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley disputed the report, and Dilanian’s sourcing quickly fell apart. One source said they actually saw the word “donor” instead of “donation,” and the other source would only offer that he saw a vague reference to political contributions.

“It is 100 percent false … Mr. Manafort provided the Senate Intelligence Committee with the facts and his notes so this speculation and conjecture is pointless and wrong,” a spokesperson for Manafort told NBC News.

Dilanian also “independently confirmed” CNN’s bunk story claiming Trump Jr. had advance access to WikiLeaks documents.

Chris Hayes (MSNBC)

MSNBC host Chris Hayes told late-night comedian Stephen Colbert in March 2018 that the simplest explanation for the behavior of Trump and the people around him is that they’re all “super guilty” of collusion.

“Why is everyone lying to investigators? Why is everyone making stuff up? Why are people acting super guilty? They’re acting super guilty because they’re guilty,” Hayes offered.

Hayes also floated impeachment in January 2019 over a Mueller-disputed BuzzFeed News report that claimed Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about potential business deals in Moscow.

Luke Harding (The Guardian)

Harding published a questionable report in November claiming that former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort met secretly with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange during the 2016 presidential campaign.

The report was partially sourced by an Ecuadorian journalist who has a history of faking documents, and both Assange and Manafort have vehemently denied the story. (RELATED: Alleged Fabricator Contributed To The Guardian’s Assange, Manafort Report)

The Intercept’s Glenn Greenwald also spotted red flags in the report, noting that there is not a whiff of physical evidence that Manafort visited the Ecuadorian Embassy to see Assange and that the sourcing on the story seems quite thin.

Harding is also the best-selling author of the book “Collusion,” an accomplishment cloaked in irony now that Mueller has found none.

Franklin Foer (Slate)

Foer, who now writes for The Atlantic, wrote an explosive piece for Slate shortly before the 2016 election that grappled with the idea that a server from the Trump campaign was linked to a Russian bank. After Hillary Clinton tweeted about the tenuous connection, other news outlets began picking apart Foer’s reporting.

The Washington Post noted that the connection between the servers could be because of spam emails or random internet bugs. The New York Times, who had also been looking into the servers, said that the FBI investigated the issue for weeks and could find nothing beyond innocuous explanations for the issue.

Foer acknowledged the issues with his original report in a follow-up piece in The Atlantic, admitting, “Nearly two years have passed since the publication of that piece — and there’s rarely a week when I don’t think about it.”

Michael Isikoff (Yahoo! News)

The FBI relied on an Isikoff article to obtain a surveillance warrant against Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, according to a memo released by House Republicans in February 2018.

Isikoff’s article, which claims Page had secret meetings with Kremlin insiders, was based on the unverified dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele. Isikoff said he was stunned to find out his article was used to justify a surveillance warrant, especially considering the warrant application already cited the dossier elsewhere.

“It’s self-referential,” he said of the article and its reliance on the dossier. “My story is about the FBI’s own investigation.”

Isikoff could very well be responsible for the confusion. The Daily Caller News Foundation’s Chuck Ross reported that Isikoff used “vague sourcing” in his article on Page and failed to indicate that his reporting was the result of the Democratic-funded research in the dossier.

David Corn (Mother Jones)

Corn was responsible for another article that relied on the unverified Steele dossier. Shortly before the election, Corn reported that a “veteran spy” gave the dossier to the FBI and that the spy is “a credible source with a proven record of providing reliable, sensitive, and important information to the US government.”

The FBI later cut ties with Steele when they found him to be unreliable.

Former FBI official James Baker told Congress in October that Corn, his longtime friend, was “anxious” to provide him with the dossier so that the FBI could “authenticate” its contents.

“I was merely doing what a journalist does: trying to get more information on a story I was pursuing,” Corn claimed.

Corn and Isikoff co-authored a book titled “Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin’s War on America and the Election of Donald Trump,” which alleges that Trump and Putin have been “striving to collaborate for years.”

Ken Bensinger / Ben Smith (BuzzFeed News)

Bensinger obtained the Steele dossier from David Kramer, a former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State, and published the entire thing on BuzzFeed without attempting to verify any of the claims in the document. BuzzFeed justified the decision by noting that the document is of public interest and that president-elect Trump had been briefed on its contents.

BuzzFeed’s publication of the dossier warned readers that the document contained unverified and flat-out false information, but it was the first time Americans read the absurd allegations that Trump had hired Russian hookers to give him “golden showers.” (RELATED: MacCallum Grills Swalwell For Standing By Debunked Dossier)

BuzzFeed News editor-in-chief Ben Smith defended the outlet’s decision to publish the dossier.

Jason Leopold / Anthony Cormier (BuzzFeed News)

Leopold and Cormier published a story in BuzzFeed claiming that President Donald Trump instructed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress in 2017 about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign.

In an unprecedented move, special counsel Mueller’s office disputed the report, stating, “BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate.”

Cohen later testified to Congress in March 2019 and further undermined BuzzFeed’s report when he said Trump never “directly” told him “to lie to Congress.”

Greg Miller (The Washington Post)

Miller withheld evidence he obtained through his own reporting that could have debunked one of the key claims in the Steele dossier.

The dossier alleges that Michael Cohen visited Prague in August 2016 to meet with Kremlin officials, which Cohen has repeatedly denied in testimonies to Congress and elsewhere.

Miller quietly revealed that CIA and FBI sources told him that they don’t believe the trip ever happened during an event in October 2018. The event did not air on television until December on C-SPAN.

“We’ve talked to sources at the FBI and the CIA and elsewhere — they don’t believe that ever happened,” Miller, a Pulitzer-prize winner, said.

The information was never reported in The Washington Post and was not detailed in Miller’s book, “The Apprentice: Trump, Russia, and the Subversion of American Democracy.”

Brian Ross (ABC News)

Ross temporarily tanked the stock market in December 2017 when he erroneously reported that candidate Trump ordered then-national security adviser Michael Flynn to make contact with the Russians prior to his election. Ross cited a single anonymous source who claimed Flynn was prepared to testify about Trump’s order.

Subsequent, accurate reporting revealed that it was actually President-elect Trump who asked Flynn to contact Russians about issues they could work on together when Trump took office, including targeting ISIS.

ABC News suspended Ross for his massive error.

Greg Gordon / Peter Stone (McClatchy)

Gordon and Stone reported in April 2018 that they could confirm a key dossier allegation — that Michael Cohen had, indeed, visited Prague in 2016.

But nearly a year after their report, not a single other news outlet has confirmed Cohen’s trip, and Cohen has repeatedly denied that it ever occurred under oath. A Mueller spokesman urged caution on news reports about the Russia investigation when asked about the McClatchy article shortly after its publication.

“What I have been telling all reporters is that many stories about our investigation have been inaccurate. Be very cautious about any source that claims to have knowledge about our investigation and dig deep into what they claim before reporting on it,” the spokesman said.

McClatchy is still standing by the story.

The DCNF’s Chuck Ross noted that the same reporters were responsible for three other thinly-sourced and unconfirmed stories related to the Russian collusion conspiracy.
PoppaJ avatar
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#4380
First I need to do a drifter impression, THE DAILY CALLER! ARE YOU FRIKEN KIDDING?

Every right winger ignores the fact Mueller made it very clear in his testimony pertaining to Part One of the report that lying and lack of cooperation from trump and his people severely hindered his efforts. I have highlighted some key points from Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”
One qualification before proceeding to the analysis in Part II: a significant amount of relevant information was unavailable to Mueller due to four factors. First, as the Report states, “several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office,” and “those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian election interference.” Second, President Trump’s interference in the investigation also appears to have stymied the investigation. A key example is Paul Manafort’s failure to cooperate with the Special Counsel because he was apparently led to believe that President Trump would pardon him. Third, some individuals used encrypted communications or deleted their communications. Fourth, some of the individuals who “cooperated” with the investigation (e.g., Steve Bannon) appear to have been deceptive or not fully forthcoming in their dealings with the Special Counsel. Several individuals failed to recall the content of important conversations with Trump or other Campaign associates. The Report states, “Even when individuals testified or agreed to be interviewed, they sometimes provided information that was false or incomplete.”
1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.


7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

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#4381
Hey how many of you are participating in this on October 25th? Any of those bike riding "witches", LOL? This is a prime example of the Lunatic Left. Now they are casting spells to "bind" Trump. Can't make this up.....

A Spell to Bind Donald Trump and All Those Who Abet Him: October 25th Mass Ritual
If it pisses off the right, it could be kind of fun.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#4383
Hey how many of you are participating in this on October 25th? Any of those bike riding "witches", LOL? This is a prime example of the Lunatic Left. Now they are casting spells to "bind" Trump. Can't make this up.....

A Spell to Bind Donald Trump and All Those Who Abet Him: October 25th Mass Ritual
You can bet your ass it works as well as prayer does for the Noah’s Magic Zoo Boat crowd. They believe trump was sent from the cloud father to save them. Now that is some sht you can’t make up.:lol:
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#4384
Mitch McConnell says trump is a liar. trump claims Mitch said his quid pro quo Ukraine conversion was perfect and innocent, Mitch says he never said it.
Lake View Too avatar
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#43861
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#43871

U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Bidens, 2016 election

Read the attached upload, let that sink in for a minute and then watch the video. This is more damning than ever. Trump did more than ask for an investigation in exchange for critical military aid. He demanded from a foreign entity, a committed public smear campaign, based on zero evidence and zero probable cause, against a political opponent for personal political gain.

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#4388
If Matt Gaetz and Lou Dobbs are your best spokespersons, you've got problems.

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#4389
Question for Leader of the Lakeview Poppas: Do you want to know the name of the "first whistleblower" or does it even matter? I ask because a major component of dealing with LEGITIMATE whistleblowers is "Employee retaliation". Legitimate whistleblowers are KNOWN want to know they are protected from retaliation, and they are protected within the whistleblower guidelines.

I certainly understand why you guys don't want to know who it is/was. Just like who cares who the actual "Russian agents" are/were. It's just get Trump no what the means or the methods, right?
Now that Ambassador Taylor has made his statement, the whistleblower identity is irrelevant. The quid pro quo couldn't be any more explicit.
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#4390
If Matt Gaetz and Lou Dobbs are your best spokespersons, you've got problems.

Got half way through and stopped. Listening to Baby Gaetz is almost as bad as listening to trump.
carson avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4391
Worst President ever. Most bombastic. Most obnoxious. Most lying. Most unpresidential. Most uneducated. Worst role model. Worst representative of American values. Biggest s**t stirrer. Started off as a garden variety narcissist, has turned into a paranoid megalomaniac. Not just a bad President, but a bad human.

Everything that he accused Obama of, he has done. Everything that he said he was going to change, he has made worse. Name one thing that he has done right and you can find twenty that he has done wrong.

His complete incompetence and ineptitude is finally wearing on his base and on the Republican Senate.

Can you imagine the outrage from the right if this assclown was a Democrat..oh wait he was for most of his life. Did they forget about that? Easier to get elected as a radical righty.

For the sanity, integrity and global reputation of the American people, please impeach this ahole.

Thank you,

Mngmt.
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Beach Fanatic
#4392
Worst President ever. Most bombastic. Most obnoxious. Most lying. Most unpresidential. Most uneducated. Worst role model. Worst representative of American values. Biggest s**t stirrer. Started off as a garden variety narcissist, has turned into a paranoid megalomaniac. Not just a bad President, but a bad human.

Everything that he accused Obama of, he has done. Everything that he said he was going to change, he has made worse. Name one thing that he has done right and you can find twenty that he has done wrong.

His complete incompetence and ineptitude is finally wearing on his base and on the Republican Senate.

Can you imagine the outrage from the right if this assclown was a Democrat..oh wait he was for most of his life. Did they forget about that? Easier to get elected as a radical righty.

For the sanity, integrity and global reputation of the American people, please impeach this ahole.

Thank you,

Mngmt.
Tell us how you really feel. lol

It's more than a s**t show it is a s**t storm.

So gullible, so fearful, so greedy and corrupt - America so ripe for the picking and so soft Putin just needed a few hackers, politicians bought for a song, an easily used NRA, social media freedom ...

How long before the majority of Americans understand that we are in a war, as surely as any land invasion and that everything that has happened was orchestrated to bring down our government, our society, our faith and institutions?
carson avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4393
I am a very middle of the road person who used to lean a little right. This isn't intended to justify my point, but a lot...a lot of my my far right leaning friends are tired of the shenanigans and can't see another four years of this s**t show.

This is a failed experiment, it is time to pull the plug.

"Its the economy." Justification for Trump. This comes from people who know nothing about economics. The core infrastructure for the rise of our economy actually started in 2008 under Bush and continued through Obama's administration. When Obama left office the market was at 19,500 when he took over it was 7900. Dodd Frank worked. Greenspan and Bernanke were brilliant. Employment numbers, same thing.

TRUMP HAS HAD DIDDLE s**t TO DO WITH THIS ECONOMY OR ITS GROWTH. HE HAS RIDDEN THE TRAIN. The only thing asshat was smart enough to do was leave it alone.
carson avatar
Beach Fanatic
#4394
And if I am not mistaken, Trump made more money under Obama than any other time.
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Beach Fanatic
#43952

U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Bidens, 2016 election

Read the attached upload, let that sink in for a minute and then watch the video. This is more damning than ever. Trump did more than ask for an investigation in exchange for critical military aid. He demanded from a foreign entity, a committed public smear campaign, based on zero evidence and zero probable cause, against a political opponent for personal political gain.

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Old news. POTUS has been crystal clear.
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Beach Fanatic
#4396
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SoWal Insider
#4397
I believe we are talking about Trump and the impeachment proceedings. Start another thread if you think anybody wants to talk about Hillary.
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Beach Fanatic
#4398
Excellent discussion and insights of what drives the Trump haters...

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Beach Fanatic
#4399
Excellent speaking from author Peter Schweizer. His book, "Secret Empires" is a must read, especially for politically tuned folks. They are all in on it folks, Republican and Democrats. We don't have to have this rot in DC.

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Beach Fanatic
#4400
I believe we are talking about Trump and the impeachment proceedings. Start another thread if you think anybody wants to talk about Hillary.
Isn’t this forum all things in Trump’s America? 2020 election is fair game. Maybe start a hate America forum for your false rants?
PoppaJ avatar
SoWal Insider
#4401
Excellent discussion and insights of what drives the Trump haters...

Don’t even need to view video to tell you the reason. He is a lying, crooked, self serving, racist, grifting, rapist, unqualified, serial sexual assaulter, bigoted, whiny little b**ch.

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