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PoppaJ avatar
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#4427
Funny how you think nothing of what Dems are doing behind closed doors. It’s not right and against our laws. So yes some people in Congress have had enough of this do nothing Congress. Both Dems and republicans need to start doing what they are elected for.
What law/laws are being broken by house Dems? :popcorn:
Dennyk avatar
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#4428
What law/laws are being broken by house Dems? :popcorn:
That impeachment proceedings are open to all of congress and the public. Dems already said that there was no classified information in the hearing. Don’t you wonder what they are hiding? Why do they think they are above the law?
PoppaJ avatar
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#4429
That impeachment proceedings are open to all of congress and the public. Dems already said that there was no classified information in the hearing. Don’t you wonder what they are hiding? Why do they think they are above the law?
Pitiful attempt, try again. What law or rule are you referring to?:popcorn:
Dennyk avatar
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#4430
Pitiful attempt, try again. What law or rule are you referring to?:popcorn:
The one that says a formal vote in the house has to be done before a impeachment inquiry can take place. So what the Dems are trying to do behind closed doors is not legitimate. That’s the reason a group of Congress stormed the room. Enough is enough. This nonsense has gone on long enough. The Dems should put up or move on.
PoppaJ avatar
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#4431
The one that says a formal vote in the house has to be done before a impeachment inquiry can take place. So what the Dems are trying to do behind closed doors is not legitimate. That’s the reason a group of Congress stormed the room. Enough is enough. This nonsense has gone on long enough. The Dems should put up or move on.
Wrong, here is Fox legal analyst Andrew Napolitano explaining it to the couch potatos.
Let me tell you what I did, Kilmeade, I read the House rules. And as frustrating as it may be to have these hearings going on behind closed doors, the hearings for which Congressman Schiff is presiding, they are consistent with the rules.
They can’t change the rules. They follow the rules. When were the rules written last? In January of 2015. And who signed them? John Boehner. And who enacted them, a Republican majority.”
The rules say this level of inquiry, this initial level of inquiry can be done in secret. What happened in the Nixon impeachment? My former boss. I was his page in the House of Representatives. Peter Rodino, instead of holding the hearings in secret, interviewed the witnesses in secret. Congressman Henry Hyde in the Clinton impeachment, witnesses interviewed in secret and presented in public. Congressman Schiff, with a different set of rules, chooses to do initial set of interviews in secret.”

Secret doesn’t work in this world. “ventually there will be a public presentation of this. At which point lawyers for the president can cross-examine these people and challenge them. This is like presenting a case to a grand jury, which is never done in public. So, I get it. The Republicans are frustrated. And they wanted to make a point. And they made their point. But this is just not the most effective way to show respect for what your colleagues are doing.”
I ask you, What is trump trying to hide by attempting to block every witness called before the committee? No one would would ever block a witness who could exonerate them.

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Dennyk avatar
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#4432
Wrong, here is Fox legal analyst Andrew Napolitano explaining it to the couch potatos.

I ask you, What is trump trying to hide by attempting to block every witness called before the committee? No one would would ever block a witness who could exonerate them.
He has said until a formal impeachment vote is taken he’s not going along with it. It’s simple and common sense, something that a lot of people are missing these days.
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#4433
He has said until a formal impeachment vote is taken he’s not going along with it. It’s simple and common sense, something that a lot of people are missing these days.
There will be a formal trial in the Senate, when articles of impeachment is passed by the House. At that time Trump can take the witness stand under oath and tell his side of the story. At that time all the witnesses can be cross examined. Right now in these closed hearings, there are Republicans who have been given equal time to question those witnesses. Those Republicans can leak all the info they want, but most all the info is bad news.
Dennyk avatar
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#4434
There will be a formal trial in the Senate, when articles of impeachment is passed by the House. At that time Trump can take the witness stand under oath and tell his side of the story. At that time all the witnesses can be cross examined. Right now in these closed hearings, there are Republicans who have been given equal time to question those witnesses. Those Republicans can leak all the info they want, but most all the info is bad news.
Thanks for info. I’ll be waiting to see what happens. Just like the muller report. I guess it’s a wait and see again. Our tax dollars at their best.
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#4435
Funny how you think nothing of what Dems are doing behind closed doors. It’s not right and against our laws. So yes some people in Congress have had enough of this do nothing Congress. Both Dems and republicans need to start doing what they are elected for.
It's no coincidence that the mob of Republican thugs pulled off their childish stunt only after the testimony against Trump was absolutely damning. You can bet Trump ordered it.
PoppaJ avatar
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#4436
It's no coincidence that the mob of Republican thugs pulled off their childish stunt only after the testimony against Trump was absolutely damning. You can bet Trump ordered it.
Every defense angle of the lying prick president* has been shot down so all they have left is to whine and attack the process.
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#4437
Every defense angle of the lying prick president* has been shot down so all they have left is to whine and attack the process.
I think it would be fitting for the cult leader to get impeached on November 18th. That would be the anniversary of the Jonestown massacre and mass suicide.
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#4438
This is from Judge Napolitano of Fox News. The Democrats are totally acting within the rules enacted by a Republican house majority in 2015. Link is below:

“I read the House rules,” Napolitano said. “And as frustrating as it may be to have these hearings going on behind closed doors — the hearings over which Congressman Schiff is presiding — they are consistent with the rules.”

When co-host Brian Kilmeade interjected, claiming that Democrats “can make up any rules they want,” Napolitano said that wasn’t the case.


“Well, they can’t change the rules; they follow the rules,” Napolitano said, noting that the rules were last written in January 2015, signed by then-House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and enacted by the Republican House majority.

“The rules say that this level of inquiry, this initial level of inquiry, can be done in secret. … Secret evidence doesn’t work in this world, so eventually there will be a public presentation of this, at which lawyers for the president can cross-examine these people and challenge them,” Napolitano said. “This is like presenting a case to a grand jury, which is never done in public.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...MCX32YtZh2mCiRILG-wIUIxDxWoJZAhLi6NHVVAeVTDko

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Emerald Drifter avatar
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#4439
You are going to have to explain this statement. Healthcare? Infrastructure? Border resolution? Absolutely no progress on any of those fronts. NONE.

Please explain these amazing accomplishments. While you are at it explain how he has drained the swamp. I still see the same alligators there and several new ones.

As I said before, it is the same as the "closer" in baseball coming in the 9th and closing out the game then claiming that he won the game. No dumbass, you just didnt lose it.

A tax cut. Restructuring NAFTA and China...and the jury is still out there just ask most American farmers.

You are starting to see a lot of red tears too. Blind party loyalty is a fool's game. You are going to see more dissention in the ranks. People who have some self respect, respect for the office and an appreciation for our constitution..oh yeah and are smart enough to say "you know maybe a guy who has made over 13,000 false or misleading claims or flat out lies, is someone that I shouldn't support." Seriously, what can you believe from a guy who lies more times everyday than you wash your hands.

Time for Teflon Don to go. It is so comical and given his Dem past, wouldn't be awesome if he turns out to be a Dem plant! No better promoter for the Dems than Cheeto Jesus.

Great. We agree. My statement on healthcare, infrastructure, and border resolution have been put on the back burner while Congress chooses to partcipate in this clown show of an "impeachment inquiry". There are critical issues that need to be addressed and the Dems in the House have a singular focus of "getting Trump". The collective fiddling while Rome burns.
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#4440
The President is acting like a school shooter.

How is the President acting like a school shooter? Or were you just employing a standard leftist tactic: it's OK to use a tragedy if you are using to try and advance a leftist opinion. Kind of like you wanted to name the impeachment inquiry The Elijah Cummings Memorial Impeachment Inquiry.
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#4441
How cute, still clinging to the hope daddy isn’t the lying POS all the the evidence is proving.

Are you seriously lecturing about hope? As in hope that Mueller would get Trump? :floor::spin:

One mo time:

Lake View Too avatar
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#4443
Great. We agree. My statement on healthcare, infrastructure, and border resolution have been put on the back burner while Congress chooses to partcipate in this clown show of an "impeachment inquiry". There are critical issues that need to be addressed and the Dems in the House have a singular focus of "getting Trump". The collective fiddling while Rome burns.
The house has passed approximately 24 bills and sent them to the Senate. The Senate majority has refused to even bring these bills up for a vote. So who is dragging their feet on doing the peoples work?
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#4444
Y'all need to read this book.

Leader of the Banned avatar
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#4445
How is the President acting like a school shooter? Or were you just employing a standard leftist tactic: it's OK to use a tragedy if you are using to try and advance a leftist opinion. Kind of like you wanted to name the impeachment inquiry The Elijah Cummings Memorial Impeachment Inquiry.
Wait a second, the Trump presidency IS a tragedy.
PoppaJ avatar
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#4446
Y'all need to read this book.

Written by a Brietbart News editor and the origin of the totally debunked uranium one conspiracy theory. No Thanks. This is irrelevant to the present.

Edit: I forgot this idiot also created the Biden/Ukraine conspiracy theory.

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PoppaJ avatar
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#4447
The depositions, I think, will determine whether or not we go forward with hearings. I think it's a very smart thing to do, to depose these people and find out what they've got to say and not drag this thing out unnecessarily. And it's going to end by the end of the year.”
Lindsey Graham in 1998 answering a reporter’s question if he thought there would be open hearings after closed door depositions during Clinton impeachment.
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#44481
Funny how you think nothing of what Dems are doing behind closed doors. It’s not right and against our laws. So yes some people in Congress have had enough of this do nothing Congress. Both Dems and republicans need to start doing what they are elected for.
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PoppaJ avatar
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Not sure why the Rightwing Mafia has their panties in a wad other than to impress the orange tinted pussygrabber.
On October 16, McCarthy accused the Democrats of preventing Republicans from cross-examining witnesses during these hearings.
Schiff said this is inaccurate, and that he has been conscientious about "giving the GOP members every opportunity to ask questions."

McCarthy's fellow Republican Rep. Mark Meadows told The Washington Post that each side alternates asking questions in set time blocks and that there has been no limit provided for the number of questions each side can ask the witnesses.
Normal procedure dictates that the chair of the committee gets the first statement, then the ranking member or another member of the minority, followed by the witnesses opening statement.

Thus far, staff attorneys for both parties have led the majority of the questioning, with members adding in their own questions, too. Lawmakers and aides have told CNN the Democrats and Republicans have traded off hourlong and 45-minute rounds until all of their questions have been exhausted, meaning both sides have equal time.
PoppaJ avatar
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#4450
Matt Gaetz thinks he can enter a closed hearing as freely as he enters trump’s bedroom.
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#4451
Friends, Countrymen, just a thought.

There is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits an impeached and removed from office POTUS from running again. So even if Trump is removed, he could run as Independent, definitely splitting the votes. Also, long shot, but just like he took Bush and Clinton dynasties out of power in 2016, he could break the stranglehold that the faux Red/Blue parties have on our country.

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