Welcome to America

Okay let’s see how much I know about you by answering this question: Do you believe Donald J. Trump is a tough guy and a real "man"?

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If you want a real answer give me more
Tough in what respect?
Physically/ no
I’m business/ he knows how to bully with his money and position
As president / sort of because I think he would call people bluff
Same kind of answer for ‘real man’
Being a ‘man’ is simple yet complicated
Give me the context you mean and I will give my answer
I will say this, I wouldn’t invite him to my house for dinner and I hope he’s not our nominee.

All I have to do is google Chase and you, the results speak volumes. Why do you think I’m angry, wound up and not okay. You’re the one who is always bragging about your ”baseball career.” I’m just pointing out that I knew one of the greats and he would’ve thought you were an idiot. I’m not angry at all, just proud that I knew a such a good guy, kinda like a second dad. A man who didn’t want to be remembered for his success, just that he wanted to go out knowing that he was kind and gentle to everyone who knew him. BTW, Chase didn’t have boisterous tough man laugh or chuckle, instead he had an infectious giggle. So many good memories of a guy just trying to be the best human he could be.


Guys like him love guys like me because we work. If you think he would have thought I’m an idiot you didn’t really know him or me. If you think he was kind and gentle on the field you don’t know the game. If you think he was a good ballplayer you don’t know the game. He was in the minors for 20+ years. That would have been a brutal existence. He coached when coaches didn’t make much money. He was a bird dog for the Cardinals if you even know what that means. I’ll bet he was a motherf*cker to play for and that’s why they loved him and that’s why he was successful. That’s back when ball players were guys. Your ignorance is offensive to the very few of us that know the game. Put your red nose back on

Is he truthful?
Does he respect truth?
Is he tough enough to handle criticism?
Agree he is not physically tough so good answer.

I think your definition of "man" may be different.
A man should be honest and truthful even when it hurts.
A man should respect women and learn how to change old ways.
A man should be able to handle criticism and acknowledge when he is wrong.

The fact that you would rather call this complicated says a lot...

I’m not wired like you
Lions don’t care about the words of gazelles
I don’t need to deflect anything

This is why you annoy me
I simply asked you to ask what you want to know in an effort to have a real conversation and you want to try to take jabs
So let’s do it your way
You’re soft at best
You think about trump all day everyday and he couldn’t care less if you walked into oncoming traffic
I find this hysterical
He’s the dog and your a flea

Why do you think my response to your question was a jab? Do you agree with my response or not? You do not have to resort to calling me names or anyone else. Your behaving like a bully and I think you are proud of that. Why? It is not necessary. We can have a conversation without all the bravado and trying to prove we are real men. Real conversation takes maturity and control of our ego or whatever it is you are trying to prove. Just stop with the real man BS and talk about the subject which happens to be the lack of integrity of someone you admire and will vote to represent you and your family.

Kinzinger? Lt. Colonel Kinzinger who serve in Iraq and Afghanistan and was totally unafraid of the consequences of doing his duty to help discover what happened on Jan. 6?
Your belief this American is less of man than pussygrabbing, heel spur chickensht, traitorous, lying, convicted rapist, trump says a hell of lot about you and those like you.

Kinzinger? Lt. Colonel Kinzinger who serve in Iraq and Afghanistan and was totally unafraid of the consequences of doing his duty to help discover what happened on Jan. 6?
Your belief this American is less of man than pussygrabbing, heel spur chickensht, traitorous, lying, convicted rapist, trump says a hell of lot about you and those like you.

Kinzinger? Lt. Colonel Kinzinger who serve in Iraq and Afghanistan and was totally unafraid of the consequences of doing his duty to help discover what happened on Jan. 6?
Your belief this American is less of man than pussygrabbing, heel spur chickensht, traitorous, lying, convicted rapist, trump says a hell of lot about you and those like you.

Your quote 'The fact that you would rather call this complicated says a lot...' is a unneeded jab so I come over the top

I imagine you are asking if I agree with these comments

I think your definition of "man" may be different.
A man should be honest and truthful even when it hurts.
A man should respect women and learn how to change old ways.
A man should be able to handle criticism and acknowledge when he is wrong.

Yes a man should be honest all the time, hurt should not factor in unless dealing with small children
Yes a man should respect woman until the point that they shouldn't
As far as learning how to change old ways it depend on what you are talking about
Yes a man should be able to handle criticism and admit when he is wrong

Understand that I never throw the first punch but I do come back hard because once someone shows me they do not want to be civil then lets be all the way uncivil (at least thats how I react)

Whenever someone asks me something here I give my honest opinion on the matter

Lets try again, if there is anything you would like to ask me please feel free
Thanks

One of the few Republicans remaining who believes in doing his duty and respecting the rule of law. I'm sure glad he has rid himself of the stink associated with being a piece of the GQP.

And you have all the GQP fascist talking points

Okay but it is not complicated.

Sometimes the truth is going to hurt. We all makes mistakes. Sometimes they are stupid mistakes. Sometimes you would rather not admit the mistake. Sometimes there will be a price to pay. I know you understand this.

Changing old ways is not complicated. It was not that long ago that women could not own property or vote or do anything but stay home and have babies. Just one example of thousands.

You keep talking about throwing punches. Why? Either it is a conversation or not. When we react instead of reason it is usually not civil. You can do a lot better and so can I.

Here is some truth that may or may not hurt. From the way you "react" in this forum I think you are not being honest with yourself. The guy you support is not good for this country or you. I think you know this but you have gotten caught up in "owning the libs". You have taken it to the level of street fighting and trying to prove that you are a bigger man. I hear that BS on fox news and conservative talk shows and even some from my own family. It makes me sick every time I hear it but I try not to react. I actually want to understand how so many men believe that a politician or a talk show can make you believe that supporting a movement to "own the libs" has any value whatsoever. It does not make you a real man. Kind of the opposite. So here is the truth. We do not live in a world where being left or right makes us a man. It is all a scam made to divide us. There are issues. There are differences of opinions. There is right and wrong. There is truth and lies. Reacting is emotion and truth takes reason...

Man this guy know all of the leftist talking points

Thanks for posting this example of a real man of dignity and leadership. A good reminder of patriotism in the face of trumpism.

Charles Pierce has a simple solution to the justice system's Trump problem: Toss him in a cell.​

...Slap a GPS tracker on one of his swollen ankles and confine him to his banana farm in Florida. Drop a multimegaton fine on him every time he goes batshit on social media. Freeze his assets. Treat him like a mob boss, a drug kingpin, or the leader of a terrorist cell because, in one way or another, he is all three of those things.

If his corporal's guard of a legal team wants to litigate these measures, let them have at it. If his mouthbreathing devotees want to make trouble, point them towards the hundreds of people now doing time for what they did on January 6. If he wants to test the strength of the rule of law, let the rule of law at least give him a battle without tying its hands through timidity and anticipatory dread. It's worth fighting for.

the rest:
I Have an Idea for Solving The Justice System's Donald Trump Problem

What we all need to fear is a modern day civil war created by this culture war that is the platform of the GOP's leading two candidates. The consequences of this movement to "own the libs" is a threat to not just our Democracy but to all of us as individuals even those who support it. It is a serious misjudgement by those who support trump or desantis. Even if they win they will lose the things in life that make our time here special. It will become a country of haves and have nots…

Perfect trumpian response, violence.
Wouldn’t a “real man” deliver the smack himself?