Are permits still required for seawall construction???

[florida girl]

Yes, when the lady, driving the school bus down my street, going in excess of 35mph on a narrow dirt road, a trigger goes off inside me, as I think about a dog running into the street, in the path of the school bus. Rumor has it in the neighborhood, that she has already ran over one dog.

BTW, florida girl, there is plenty of yellow equipment which does not set off a trigger within me. However, when I see a piece stuck in the water overnight, I begin to ask questions.

My first thought if I saw the back hoe stuck in the water was that it surely wasn't intended to be there. I haven't heard of anyone who likes doing that sort of thing, quite a predicament actually, to figure out how to get it out! If it is Ro, he's the boss, not the worker. Concerning the trigger just seems like there just isn't enough for folks to do, but to have their noses into someone else?s business! A Peyton Place, where everybody is into everyone?s life! I don?t have first hand knowledge about the school bus; I do know they have regulations regarding their behavior. However, I also know that if you drive too slow on a dirt road, you?ll get stuck. A school bus loaded with kids makes a heavy bus. In fact, if you get up on plane, the ride is much smoother! Experience taught me that. I think too much is gossip, not justified truth.

 

[GoodWitch58]

Frankly, I wish a lot more people would report environmental issues...andschool bus drivers who seem to always be driving too fast for conditions around here. They must take their driving lessons from the construction truck drivers!

If members of the community do not report possible violations, then really bad things happen and the result is not good for any of us! (Seawalls and four lane highways without traffic signals come to mind!)

It's really hard for me to believe that the person in charge of this situation doesn't know he/she is behaving in an inappropriate way!

 

[florida girl]

If it were one or two individuals reporting that is one thing, but as I understand, it's over the top, about everything. Leaves the impression of a town full of busibodies. It's all in how you look at it, do you first suspect something is being done wrong, or is there any confidence in human nature at all? Is the cup half full or half empty? Example: Did we get our license from a gum ball machine? Do we not have sense enough to come in out of the rain? Or is it a police state, where everything is micromanaged, and there is no confidence in humans at all?

 

[scooterbug44]

I love that people are concerned about what is going on and each others' lives! It can get a little intrusive, inbred, or gossipy sometimes, but it's a small price to pay for living in a small community and having people watch your back.

I especially like that there are "eyes on the street" to catch wrongdoers! Those that are doing nothing wrong have nothing to fear!

 

[Smiling JOe]

My first thought if I saw the back hoe stuck in the water was that it surely wasn't intended to be there. I haven't heard of anyone who likes doing that sort of thing, quite a predicament actually, to figure out how to get it out! If it is Ro, he's the boss, not the worker. Concerning the trigger just seems like there just isn't enough for folks to do, but to have their noses into someone else’s business! A Peyton Place, where everybody is into everyone’s life! I don’t have first hand knowledge about the school bus; I do know they have regulations regarding their behavior. However, I also know that if you drive too slow on a dirt road, you’ll get stuck. A school bus loaded with kids makes a heavy bus. In fact, if you get up on plane, the ride is much smoother! Experience taught me that. I think too much is gossip, not justified truth.

It isn't Ro. The guy is probably no older than 25.

I stick my nose in places where I need to stick it. It is called creating community. I could care less who the neighbor brings home to sleep with, or how much they've had to drink, or whether or not they are smoking pot, until it begins to affect more than that person. You can bet money that if I here a fight going on next door, or a break-in, or a fire, or a woman yelling rape, I am going to check it out.These things are not normal, nor is a track hoe digging in the Bay. ;-)


Not all dirt roads are equal. This particular school bus driver has no business going through my neighborhood at the speeds which she drives. That bus is not in danger of being stuck on my street.

 

[florida girl]

I love that people are concerned about what is going on and each others' lives! It can get a little intrusive, inbred, or gossipy sometimes, but it's a small price to pay for living in a small community and having people watch your back.

I especially like that there are "eyes on the street" to catch wrongdoers! Those that are doing nothing wrong have nothing to fear!

I guess it depends on your definition of "wrongdoers", it seems most people here have a different opinion of that, considering the variety of cultures that have moved here. Most small towns have a similar culture to go along with it. I for one, think it's okay to hunt, fish, clean a fish while it's still alive, eat meat, live oysters... I for one, think it's okay to own guns! What a shock! What they do next door is their business, unless it affects me in some way. If I have no respect for my neighbor, no trust in their character, I wouldn't want to live there. You get what you give.

 

[GoodWitch58]

Florida Girl: I am certainly a glass half full person; but I am also a realist, and the track record around here for people doing things without the proper permits, especially when it comes to wetland areas, the beach, and now the bay...the track record is not that good.

And, it's pretty obvious that we can not depend on "the authorities" to do the right thing when it comes to road building, or we never would have had those dangerous intersections! Perhaps if those signals had been installed to begin with, as they should have, then just perhaps several people, including those two teenagers, would still be alive today! And, I know if citizens who cared had not raised hell about it, then we would still have dangerous intersections! It took people standing up for what is right to move the county commissioners to the right thing. And, it took many of the same citizens standing up to keep black dirt off the beach at Blue Mt!

So, observant people who care about their community, do the right thing when something appears inappropriate...that's not gossip or minding others business--it's taking care of our community, and it's everyone's business!

I for one appreciate it when others do it, and I intend to continue being an activist for things that are important to me like the environment and people's lives.....

 

[florida girl]

It isn't Ro. The guy is probably no older than 25.

I stick my nose in places where I need to stick it. It is called creating community. I could care less who the neighbor brings home to sleep with, or how much they've had to drink, or whether or not they are smoking pot, until it begins to affect more than that person. You can bet money that if I here a fight going on next door, or a break-in, or a fire, or a woman yelling rape, I am going to check it out.These things are not normal, nor is a track hoe digging in the Bay. ;-)


Not all dirt roads are equal. This particular school bus driver has no business going through my neighborhood at the speeds which she drives. That bus is not in danger of being stuck on my street.

Depends on what's "normal". A back hoe in the bay has had an accident. It would appear that work has been done for quite some time, proper officials surely know about it. The fact that they are attempting to protect their shoeline from erosion, looks like a good thing. As far as the bus, school has been out for some time now, is that relevant?

 

[florida girl]

Florida Girl: I am certainly a glass half full person; but I am also a realist, and the track record around here for people doing things without the proper permits, especially when it comes to wetland areas, the beach, and now the bay...the track record is not that good.

And, it's pretty obvious that we can not depend on "the authorities" to do the right thing when it comes to road building, or we never would have had those dangerous intersections! Perhaps if those signals had been installed to begin with, as they should have, then just perhaps several people, including those two teenagers, would still be alive today! And, I know if citizens who cared had not raised hell about it, then we would still have dangerous intersections! It took people standing up for what is right to move the county commissioners to the right thing. And, it took many of the same citizens standing up to keep black dirt off the beach at Blue Mt!

So, observant people who care about their community, do the right thing when something appears inappropriate...that's not gossip or minding others business--it's taking care of our community, and it's everyone's business!

I for one appreciate it when others do it, and I intend to continue being an activist for things that are important to me like the environment and people's lives.....

I assume the dangerous intersections are the ones on 98? That is a state hwy, governed by state code, not county. Still need to have all the data to formulate accurate decisions, many people jump to conclusions, creating unnecessary havoc for others. If the laws are not what they should be, change them! There are proper methods of resolution to problems! Granted not all people are gossips, and not all people are entitled to harrassment! There needs to be a balance of some sort!

 

[Smiling JOe]

Depends on what's "normal". A back hoe in the bay has had an accident. It would appear that work has been done for quite some time, proper officials surely know about it. The fact that they are attempting to protect their shoeline from erosion, looks like a good thing. As far as the bus, school has been out for some time now, is that relevant?

You, not I, brought up school buses.

To the best of my knowledge, a track hoe in the Bay is not normal. To help you define "normal," I ask, how many track hoes have you seen in the Bay? The authorities were aware of the situation, only after they were originally called, and they issued a Stop Work Order.

I sure hope my neighbors are concerned with the community, if anything like my house catches fire, my dogs run away, a thief is breaking in, etc. I guess on your street, you would rather hope the neighbors don't pay attention.