Are permits still required for seawall construction???

SoWal Expert

Jun 25, '07 · 6:43 PM16,1891

So guess what piece of yellow equipment was redelivered to this site on the Bay, today. You guessed it -- the one in the water. They didn't have a permit last month, and were issued a STOP WORK ORDER by Code Enforcement. The Stop Work Order is still on the property, though, it was ran over by the guy driving the track hoe. I'm glad they finally got around to installing the silt fence, but do these people need a permit to operate construction equipment in the Bay? Notice they are stuck? That piece of rental equipment will be expensive to purchase.

They did manange to cut down the big Oak Tree which they couldn't knock over with the Track Hoe last time.

Code Enforcement will be getting another phone call in the morning.

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Skunky

Jun 25, '07 · 6:51 PM#2

You might call United Rental too and let them know their equipment is sitting in brackish water :floor:

hmmmm......can't remember

Jun 25, '07 · 6:57 PM#3

Since that thing only has one seat, would it be considered a personal water craft? Daddy-O says it's unlawful to launch a PWC from the beach...

SoWal Expert

Jun 25, '07 · 7:49 PM#4

You go, SJ. :clap:

SoWal ExpertAuthor

Jun 25, '07 · 10:33 PM#5

Hope they didn't "cheap out" and not purchase rentor's insurance.

hmmmm......can't remember

Jun 25, '07 · 10:38 PM#6

In your bottom picture is there a human still in that machine?

SoWal ExpertAuthor

Jun 25, '07 · 10:45 PM#7

In your bottom picture is there a human still in that machine?

No that is the operator's seat. The driver is in the water trying to get muck out of the tracks, or something like that. I'll blow it up for you. (not the track hoe, but the image). ;-)

Now that I look at that photo again, either that guy is really deep down in the muck, or he dug one heck of a hole. That depth of water was never more than maybe one foot along that stretch where his left track is stuck. That track on the equipment is probably around 30" in height, and the top of the back end of that track must be two feet under water, at least.

Edited Jun 25, '07 · 10:49 PM

hmmmm......can't remember

Jun 25, '07 · 10:54 PM#8

No that is the operator's seat. The driver is in the water trying to get muck out of the tracks, or something like that. I'll blow it up for you. (not the track hoe, but the image). ;-)

Now that I look at that photo again, either that guy is really deep down in the muck, or he dug one heck of a hole. That depth of water was never more than maybe one foot along that stretch where his left track is stuck. That track on the equipment is probably around 30" in height, and the top of the back end of that track must be two feet under water, at least.

I'm sure you're gonna lose sleep tonight worrying about him getting that thing out.

But here's the sad part: that guy is stuck in more ways than one. He's just trying to pay the bills. He doesn't care about that lake, and he doesn't care about the guy he's working for beyond his paycheck, more than likely. But now he's got that stupid thing stuck in there... You know he will be losing some sleep tonight. :doh:

Edited Jun 25, '07 · 10:55 PM

SoWal ExpertAuthor

Jun 25, '07 · 10:58 PM#9

I'm sure you're gonna lose sleep tonight worrying about him getting that thing out.

But here's the sad part: that guy is stuck in more ways than one. He's just trying to pay the bills. He doesn't care about that lake, and he doesn't care about the guy he's working for beyond his paycheck, more than likely. But now he's got that stupid thing stuck in there... You know he will be losing some sleep tonight.

The answer is really easy -- ready??? -- don't drive a track hoe into the Bay. I wonder what United Rentals will say when they deliver an even larger piece of equipment tomorrow to get the thing out. :idontno:

This should be another all day event, if you don't have anything else to do. Video would be good.

SoWal Insider

Jun 25, '07 · 11:24 PM#10

perfect case of bad karma for all, they axed for it.

Skunky

Jun 26, '07 · 3:00 AM#11

That is what they get for trying to pull this project off after the watchdog moved out. :floor:

hmmmm......can't remember

Jun 26, '07 · 5:32 AM#12

The answer is really easy -- ready??? -- don't drive a track hoe into the Bay. I wonder what United Rentals will say when they deliver an even larger piece of equipment tomorrow to get the thing out. This should be another all day event, if you don't have anything else to do. Video would be good.

It seems that simple, doesn't it? (And I'm sure you're right.) I just saw his face there in the mud and had a flashback from when I was working for a real jacka$$. I'm surprised that between his screaming and my desparation for mortgage money that I didn't drive large machinery into a bay!

But I'm looking forward to the video; I can't get there until Saturday, and I hope that we'll do something more fun than watch people try to drown perfectly good machines.

SoWal Expert

Jun 26, '07 · 7:15 AM#13

Wow. Keep us posted, especially since Gladys and his cute sidekick aren't living next door anymore. :floor:

It really is almost like they waited to see the them move out of the cottage, and then the orders were given, "Hey the neighbors are gone!! Let's get to work!!"

Thanks for the pics, SJ!

Darlene is my middle name, not my nickname

Jun 26, '07 · 7:49 AM#14

The answer is really easy -- ready??? -- don't drive a track hoe into the Bay. I wonder what United Rentals will say when they deliver an even larger piece of equipment tomorrow to get the thing out. This should be another all day event, if you don't have anything else to do. Video would be good.

Will you be documenting this event for us? :idontno:

SoWal Expert

Jun 26, '07 · 7:55 AM#15

Did you yell "hoe down!" when it started to sink? :floor:

Admin

Jun 26, '07 · 8:04 AM#16

I wonder how many gallons of fuel, oil, and hydraulic fluid used to be contained by that vehicle.

Darlene is my middle name, not my nickname

Jun 26, '07 · 8:15 AM#17

I wonder how many gallons of fuel, oil, and hydraulic fluid used to be contained by that vehicle.

That is spilling as we type into the Bay. That is the first thing I thought of when I saw that Da** thing in the water!!!!!!! :bang:

SoWal Expert

Jun 26, '07 · 8:19 AM#18

I'm (perhaps naively) hoping that the floating silt fence will keep the various oils contained for easier cleanup.

I hope they get a REALLY big fine!!! Who owns this property?

Edited Jun 26, '07 · 8:20 AM

Meow

Jun 26, '07 · 9:20 AM#19

Did you yell "hoe down!" when it started to sink?

...I am laughing so I do not cry.

SoWal ExpertAuthor

Jun 26, '07 · 9:30 AM#20

That is what they get for trying to pull this project off after the watchdog moved out.

Well, I just stumbled upon it, but you'd be proud of your the other watchdog close by, because he's been watching and taking notes.

SoWal ExpertAuthor

Jun 26, '07 · 9:39 AM#21

I'm (perhaps naively) hoping that the floating silt fence will keep the various oils contained for easier cleanup.

I hope they get a REALLY big fine!!! Who owns this property?

I believe the properties are owned by seven individual lot owners, though my guess is that the developer is footing the bill to make good on promises to erect a seawall as part of the development -- just my guess. The developers have slowly been working on finishing the infrastructure for a couple of years.

The stop work order was issued to only one of the seven Bayfront parcel owners, which really didn't make sense to me, but maybe that is the parcel where they found the track hoe.

Beach Fanatic

Jun 26, '07 · 10:16 AM#22

To answer the original question, yes, they are. From DEP.

I got scared before I opened the thread; I thought I was about to see our work-for-two-years-now-in-progress!! :roll:

Skunky

Jun 26, '07 · 10:32 AM#23

I'm (perhaps naively) hoping that the floating silt fence will keep the various oils contained for easier cleanup.

I hope they get a REALLY big fine!!! Who owns this property?

You might hope so, but I watched that fence come undone the last time there was a big thunderstorm. The property owner on the stop work sign was a guy named Toups from NOLA, but I think SJ is right, the trackhoe debacle is probably being orchestrated by the developer.