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Bristol Palin & Levi Johnston are engaged!

Bristol's mother, Sarah Palin, didn't know about the on-again relationship until it was revealed in a tabloid magazine.

That's at least twice Mama Grizzly didn't know where her cubs were.

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scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#52
that's bs my friend
Feel free to post FACTUAL evidence that contradicts either statement.:wave:
Beach FanaticAuthor
#53
As a admirer of Palin, I feel it is my duty to defend her, if she is so stupid, so dumb such a big piece of Republican fluff why waste your time putting her down, why not ignore her? Why devote subject threads to her?[/B]

Yzarctoo,

You say, "As an admirer of Palin, I feel it my duty to defend her..."
Fair enough, but defend her by responding directly to the points adduced, not by deflecting the argument by saying, oh that reminds me of Obama's shortcomings which are much worse.

You say, "..why not ignore her? Why devote subject threads to her?"

We're all shaped by our past experiences--we can't help it.

Lester Maddox's entry into the GA gubernatorial race was a source of great derision amongst my college buddies. Lester Maddox! the pick axe-wielding, hate-spewing, backward-bicycle-riding owner of the Pickwick Cafeteria--thinks he can become governor of GA--ha, ha, ha, that's a good one. The voters would never elect such a clown. Well, Lester did become Governor and was laughable in the role. Maybe if enough folks had pointed out his laugh-ability quotient beforehand, the course of history might have been changed.

Can you see any current parallel to my Lester Maddox anecdote?
(Hint: it involves a woman who shoots wolves from a helicopter; who claims she's a Mama Grizzly protecting her cubs while not knowing what's going on with them; who compares herself w/ God & with Shakespeare; who didn't know that Africa was a continent; who is endorsing several Tea Party candidates; who is poorly educated, poorly informed & hypocritical.)
Jdarg avatar
SoWal Expert
#54
Your answer speaks volume...no more to be said. You proved my point.

Volumes...I wouldn't give me that much credit. Maybe a short story.
Yzarctoo avatar
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#55
Again...there are plenty of threads on SoWal & other forums that deal with Obama, his background, his policies...etc. You & I contribute to those threads.

Again,...this specific thread is about Sarah Palin & adduces evidence that she is poorly educated, poorly informed, hypocritical, narrow in her views, wrong-headed in her policies...etc.

When there is a post about Sarah Palin, you say, oh, that reminds me of several things about Barack Obama. That is called changing the subject. Your points about Barack Obama might remind me of several things about Jesus Christ.

If you want to respond to--or "refudiate"-- the points about Ms. Palin, please respond to those points directly.

Will do, Ugabuga your challenge is accepted I am honing in on your "adduces evidence" wording.

"Again,...this specific thread is about Sarah Palin & adduces evidence that she is poorly educated, poorly informed, hypocritical, narrow in her views, wrong-headed in her policies...etc."

Please look through this thread and post the name of any poster(can't be me :roll🙂 that shows real evidence of her poor education, her poor informational base, her narrow views, (according to who must be stated in the post) her wrong headed polices, whats hypocritical about her...

.....all I have read on this thread are Palin put downs, insults and character blasting.. she is a magnet doll sold in a hippy store, she and her family are media whores, she has a future SIL that shows his stuff, she left her Governor's job after 2 and half years, she likes yellow teapot gowns, she's stupid etc. You show me in this specific thread all those posts that prove your evidence listing qualifications for this thread and its original purpose...and I will not post again in this thread again and you guys can continue on with your deep investigation of Sarah (bashing) with no interruptions by me and no Obama reminders popping up. How's that?
Yzarctoo avatar
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#56
Volumes...I wouldn't give me that much credit. Maybe a short story.

Nope, more volumes than an encyclopedia. You are selling yourself Short by stopping at Short story.:sarc:
Jdarg avatar
SoWal Expert
#57
Nope, more volumes than an encyclopedia. You are selling yourself Short by stopping at Short story.:sarc:

Excellent! Would love to stay and spar, but my interest is starting to decline.....have a nice day.
kitlit avatar
Beach Fanatic
#58
.....all I have read on this thread are Palin put downs, insults and character blasting.. she is a magnet doll sold in a hippy store, she and her family are media whores, she has a future SIL that shows his stuff, she left her Governor's job after 2 and half years, she likes yellow teapot gowns, she's stupid etc.


Are these things not true? I had understood all of these things to be factual, thereby eliminating them from your list of "insults and character blasting". As to the other items, "media whore" is a phrase used generally to describe people who are consistently putting themselves into unnecessary spotlight (which is a matter of opinion, but could certainly apply to the Palin family) and after a (brief) review of the thread, I couldn't find a single instance of anyone out and out calling Sarah Palin "stupid".

:idontno:

Oh, and for the love of goodness, I'm okay with reading your (somewhat defensive and overzealous) posts, but could you please refrain from bolding and italicizing everything you type? Thanks!

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Beach FanaticAuthor
#59
Will do, Ugabuga your challenge is accepted I am honing in on your "adduces evidence" wording.

"Again,...this specific thread is about Sarah Palin & adduces evidence that she is poorly educated, poorly informed, hypocritical, narrow in her views, wrong-headed in her policies...etc."

Please look through this thread and post the name of any poster(can't be me :roll🙂 that shows real evidence of her poor education, her poor informational base, her narrow views, (according to who must be stated in the post) her wrong headed polices, whats hypocritical about her...

.....all I have read on this thread are Palin put downs, insults and character blasting.. You show me in this specific thread all those posts that prove your evidence listing qualifications for this thread and its original purpose...and I will not post again in this thread again and you guys can continue on with your deep investigation of Sarah (bashing) with no interruptions by me and no Obama reminders popping up. How's that?

Yzarctoo,

You've done it again: instead of defending Ms. Palin based on the data/info adduced in this thread, you now say "show me the evidence that Palin is what you say she is." That is, again, you haven't defended Palin, you've simply diverted the argument.

The very first post in this thread was a link to her Mama Grizzly political ad in which she says "Moms just kinda know when something's wrong". She didn't know where her cub was when she got pregnant; she didn't know her cub was gettin' back w/ ole Levi. It's hypocritical of her to claim she just kinda knows about her cubs when she's completely in the dark about their activities.

My post today that initiated our back-&-forth was that she originally tweeted that Muslims should "refute" the mosque at Ground Zero. She shows a lack of education by using the wrong word & then changes it to "refudiate," which isn't a word at all, and then compares herself to Shakespeare for making up a word. She is poorly educated & ill informed. It's sorta like using the term "honing in" when you mean "homing in".

These two examples are representative of all add'l info/data adduced in this thread which you obviously failed to read or appreciate.
Lynnie avatar
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#60
Good Lord, things that never cease to amaze me!
Yzarctoo avatar
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#61
Yzarctoo,

You've done it again: instead of defending Ms. Palin based on the data/info adduced in this thread, you now say "show me the evidence that Palin is what you say she is." That is, again, you haven't defended Palin, you've simply diverted the argument.

The very first post in this thread was a link to her Mama Grizzly political ad in which she says "Moms just kinda know when something's wrong". She didn't know where her cub was when she got pregnant; she didn't know her cub was gettin' back w/ ole Levi. It's hypocritical of her to claim she just kinda knows about her cubs when she's completely in the dark about their activities.

My post today that initiated our back-&-forth was that she originally tweeted that Muslims should "refute" the mosque at Ground Zero. She shows a lack of education by using the wrong word & then changes it to "refudiate," which isn't a word at all, and then compares herself to Shakespeare for making up a word. She is poorly educated & ill informed. It's sorta like using the term "honing in" when you mean "homing in".

These two examples are representative of all add'l info/data adduced in this thread which you obviously failed to read or appreciate.


Sorry to disappoint...not dead, still alive and kicking. Power went off and computer went down in mid thought. Probably a good thing because I was coming up with a thesis for my reply ...but then decided why waste the finger power it would take to write my response and with this group it would fall on deaf ears. So..will just say that this"Mama" thread is nothing more than a SLAM BOOK with Sarah Palin's name written on the cover.

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Beach FanaticAuthor
#62
Ok, if that is your "evidence" that this thread is all about examining her education, her character, her

I sure hope Yzarctoo didn't fall over dead in the middle of typing the above response, which just kind of ... stops...

Somebody better check on him/her.
Geo avatar
Beach Fanatic
#63
I was the one who called the Palins "media whores". I stand by that. BUT I was also the one who clarified my belief that Sarah Palin has masterfully parlayed electoral failure into success (or at least wealth). And that in my opinion makes her pretty smart- or darn lucky. But not a smart leader. A savy marketer and self promoter, yes..

My main reason for thinking she's not presidential material is no longer that she lacks intelligence. It is that she has already passed a point on the polarization spectrum that makes her bad for the country. She plays to her base by using sarcastic, disingenuous, inflammatory rhetoric. She is incapable of bringing back the other half of the country (I'm being generous with my fractions) who voted against her once in office. And quite frankly, I have concerns that this is now also the case for Obama based on the year and half we just saw.

We need a moderate who holds views common to dems and republicans both. Someone who hasn't won anyone over masses of people at the cost of tainting masses of people. Someone who hasn't been a good democrat or a good republican.

Of course, we should have better luck finding Bigfoot.

What a mess.

EDIT: Meant to say- the answer for the GOP is NOT to move further to the right. Duh!
Lake View Too avatar
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#64
I sure hope Yzarctoo didn't fall over dead in the middle of typing the above response, which just kind of ... stops...

Somebody better check on him/her.

maybe she/he is just emulating Palin by quitting mid-stream...one can only hope...
sarawind avatar
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#65
I was the one who called the Palins "media whores". I stand by that. BUT I was also the one who clarified my belief that Sarah Palin has masterfully parlayed electoral failure into success (or at least wealth). And that in my opinion makes her pretty smart- or darn lucky. But not a smart leader. A savy marketer and self promoter, yes..

Oh, I love the girl. She's a looker, too. A lots of politicians have failed at their first attempt to win office then kept on keeping on and came back to win. Sarah's just beginning and just because she didn't graduate college from an Ivy League college doesn't mean she's not smart. She's plenty smart and being underestimated plays right to her. ,

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Yzarctoo avatar
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#66
I was the one who called the Palins "media whores". I stand by that. BUT I was also the one who clarified my belief that Sarah Palin has masterfully parlayed electoral failure into success (or at least wealth). And that in my opinion makes her pretty smart- or darn lucky. But not a smart leader. A savy marketer and self promoter, yes..

Oh, I love the girl. She's a looker, too. A lots of politicians have failed at their first attempt to win office then kept on keeping on and came back to win. Sarah's just beginning and just because she didn't graduate college from an Ivy League college doesn't mean she's not smart. She's plenty smart and being underes PStimated plays right to her. ,

Watch out Becky Bee you are walking through a bunch of "Left Leaning Trees" .... when it comes to Palin .😱
Yzarctoo avatar
Beach Fanatic
#67
I sure hope Yzarctoo didn't fall over dead in the middle of typing the above response, which just kind of ... stops...

Somebody better check on him/her.

:wave:Thanks for the concern. No dead bodies here. Computer problems. Did finish my original post..
Yzarctoo avatar
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#68
maybe she/he is just emulating Palin by quitting mid-stream...one can only hope...

Very funny ...sorry to take away your Hope.... :lolabove:
Geo avatar
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#69
I can provide reasonable support for my argument that she is a smart marketer and self promoter. But can you provide support for your view that she is a smart leader?

The only office she held she quit.

So far in the forest of left leaning trees I'm only hearing that she's good looking (I agree), that she lost her first big election (agree) and that she didn't attend an ivy league school. What's not to love?
Yzarctoo avatar
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#70
Are these things not true? I had understood all of these things to be factual, thereby eliminating them from your list of "insults and character blasting". As to the other items, "media whore" is a phrase used generally to describe people who are consistently putting themselves into unnecessary spotlight (which is a matter of opinion, but could certainly apply to the Palin family) and after a (brief) review of the thread, I couldn't find a single instance of anyone out and out calling Sarah Palin "stupid".

:idontno:

Oh, and for the love of goodness, I'm okay with reading your (somewhat defensive and overzealous) posts, but could you please refrain from bolding and italicizing everything you type? Thanks!
I'm sorry my bold print bothers you...the reason I do it is because with the original post showing a long with the response I find that the person's response sometimes blends into the original note. I find with my bifocals, that the bold print makes is easier for to me to both read and to correct before posting. Since it bothers you I will refrain from responding to any of your posts with my bold print. I am not doing it to offend anyone...just to help myself out.

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sarawind avatar
Beach Fanatic
#71
Watch out Becky Bee you are walking through a bunch of "Left Leaning Trees" .... when it comes to Palin .😱

Thank you kindly. I remember how lots of people had the heebie-jeebies over Ronald Reagan and he didn't win his first time trying if I am recollecting right. They were scared of him for the same reasons they are a little twitchers over that sweet girl, Sarah.
Geo avatar
Beach Fanatic
#72
Ha! Now I know yer just messing with me.
Yzarctoo avatar
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#73
I can provide reasonable support for my argument that she is a smart marketer and self promoter. But can you provide support for your view that she is a smart leader?

The only office she held she quit.

So far in the forest of left leaning trees I'm only hearing that she's good looking (I agree), that she lost her first big election (agree) and that she didn't attend an ivy league school. What's not to love?

Somewhere in the Left Leaning Trees..you tripped over a fallen branch.. you missed the ugabuga/yzarctoo fizz" if you read all the posts in this thread...this thread is a Palin bashing thread..folks are looking at her as a big joke... a fluff head...it has gotten pretty nasty...no matter how you look at it...with her two and half years as Governor she does have leadership skills...she worked with the Oil Powers...she had to keep Alaska financial sound..she sold the Governor's plane and drove herself back and forth to work to save the state money ...she gave up the cook that came with the job as an expense that wasn't needed, she was in charge of people...(National Guard, Cabinet, her Staff, etc) she did do and acomplish things. At the time John chose her she had one of the highest approval records of all Governors. I have really found it discouraging to see her mocked so bad and so much pure hate directed at her...I can't use the O word here NOT an O thread...but his leadership skills were zero when elected. He had never been in charge of a state, a budget, or dealt with Oil folks..his lack of leadership skills were overlooked...maybe being able to make speeches, and promises are more important on the outside and can get you elected..but it takes a lot more than that to run a country as we are seeing now. The posts in this thread have been harsh...and I have been snappy too in my defense of Palin and my unhappiness with O...I guess politics does that to people. I think I am done visiting this thread...it is what it is.:idontno:

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Rita avatar
margarita brocolia
#74
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omc! .




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Lake View Too avatar
SoWal Insider
#75
Wow, I can't imagine Sarah Palin showing so much drama and then quitting...oh wait, there was that earlier time...
Beach FanaticAuthor
#76
I think I am done visiting this thread...it is what it is.:idontno:

I miss Yzarctoo.

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