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A major cause is the role and size of Florida's "public option," of Citizens Property Insurance Corp.

Citizens, not actually a corporation but an arm of government, offers Florida property insurance to nearly anyone who asks ? residents, business owners, snowbirds with vacation homes, and even coastal developers. It insures more than $400 billion worth of Florida property, largely in a "wind pool" area along the coastline. Common sense and hard science say that insuring that kind of risk is expensive. On average, Florida gets a hurricane about every other year, and a major hurricane about every fifth year. Sometimes, as in 2004 and 2005, we get several in a single season. Citizens says it would suffer around $23 billion in losses in the proverbial "100-year storm."

But Citizens' premium rates are not set by its professional staff but by legislators and regulators, in many cases at levels not "actuarially sound" or sufficient to fund its level of exposure. It does not have the "surplus" or funds to pay its claims after major hurricanes. Worse, it does not even ensure it has access to those needed funds (via "reinsurance" or backup coverage) in advance of hurricane season, and its staff and Florida regulators publicly acknowledge this.

How can Citizens survive ignoring these three basic principles of insurance ? underwrite to separate good risks from poor ones, charge a price that covers expected future costs of transferring risk, and ensure access to claims-paying capital after disasters? The unpleasant answer: through the power of government to tax current and future Florida property and business owners.

Citizens first pays claims from its coffers, but after exhausting its surplus (right now a mere $4 billion) it turns to the Florida Hurricane Catastrophe Fund ? a government reinsurer with less than $6 billion in surplus of its own to cover up to $24 billion in promises. Next, it would turn to the bond market, where the state would have to borrow potentially massive sums. It's plausible that Citizens and the CAT Fund could have to collectively beg Wall Street for $25 billion or more ? more than the entire current debt of Florida ? during the chaotic recovery from a major storm. Analysts believe such unprecedented borrowing would be difficult.

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/...ON/Insurance-crisis-Don-t-dump-debt-on-future

Curious what people think - key issues include the current liability in citizens, which would be short billions if the state were hit by a major storm, the unfunded liability of our state run re-insurance, which is currently operating a deficit and wouldn't have the money to cover a failed private firm, and the fact that the number of private insurers serving the citizens of the state is continually shrinking.

We've been regulating ouselves out of the private market now for over five years, while increasingly cutting off funding for our "public option" homeowners insurance. Time for a change?
 
Insurance crisis: Don't dump debt on future | tallahassee.com | Tallahassee Democrat

Curious what people think - key issues include the current liability in citizens, which would be short billions if the state were hit by a major storm, the unfunded liability of our state run re-insurance, which is currently operating a deficit and wouldn't have the money to cover a failed private firm, and the fact that the number of private insurers serving the citizens of the state is continually shrinking.

We've been regulating ouselves out of the private market now for over five years, while increasingly cutting off funding for our "public option" homeowners insurance. Time for a change?
yet another example of how "hope" trumps reality. Why is it wrong to expect "those rich property and business owners" to cover shortfalls in premiums charged to cover what is a "right" to affordable government run insurance for everyone else?
 
Well, this is a whole new level of stupid. Apparently we have learned nothing during the last several years.

One would think we could find a better plan than "let's hope Florida doesn't have a hurricane or tropical storm that causes damage."

Not saying that we need to start charging ridonkulous rates, but maybe a slight increase would be a good start - especially when people are using this insurance to build in places that they shouldn't be building in.

I am sure there are many self-proclaimed "tea partiers" on that list of homes being insured and I am SURE they don't want to be wasting government money like that. ;-)

What I find even odder is that I just got a small refund check from a private insurance company because we didn't have a hurricane this past year. Why couldn't that have gone into a rainy day fund, as I am sure that they gave me a refund to comply with regulations, not out of the goodness of their heart?
 
yet another example of how "hope" trumps reality. Why is it wrong to expect "those rich property and business owners" to cover shortfalls in premiums charged to cover what is a "right" to affordable government run insurance for everyone else?

Because it causes price distortions in free markets which lead to large cost increases for everyone over time.

It's pretty obvious really when you think about it. If you make something free, there will be over use. Over use in a system like this results in a whole lot of people living in areas they can't afford to insure. When a large storm comes along, the state must pick up the tab, resulting in all sorts of financial stress in the state budget and more expensive special assessments on everyone across the state. Take a look at the financial mess the state of California is currently in for some examples.
 
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