Miss Kitty avatar
Meow
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I needed to start this thread for a bit of pity and a momentary wallow in my misery.

:violin:

For six rental seasons, I have done the same thing. I arrive to our place and do the bi-annual change out of slipcovers. Washed the Summer covers, put them up and put on the Fall covers, which had been washed last Spring.

Mr. K calls me last night and says we got a bill for the deep clean. Fine, good. Then he read me the ridiculous amount they have charged us for DRY CLEANING all the slipcovers!!!! We even were charged for "upholstery cleaning" the outdoor cushions, which I always wash! So, I just washed slipcovers that were recently drycleaned (I told them to never do this). :bang:

Thank you...I feel better. I will be having a meeting today. :biggrin:

Go ahead...rant away! :wave:

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sunspotbaby avatar
SoWal Insider
#377
Okay, makes me feel better that some are having the same problem. I just got a new TV and it never did this before, so I don't know. The only time I watch Fox is Mon night, Tues night and Wed night so I don't know if it does that all day or what. Calling Mediacon today.
Miss Kitty avatar
MeowAuthor
#378
Okay, makes me feel better that some are having the same problem. I just got a new TV and it never did this before, so I don't know. The only time I watch Fox is Mon night, Tues night and Wed night so I don't know if it does that all day or what. Calling Mediacon today.

Let me know what the party line is. :roll: I noticed it was frozen the other day (during the day), but last night it was all pixilated and on occasion would say it was searching for a signal.
Mango avatar
SoWal Insider
#379
Let me know what the party line is. :roll: I noticed it was frozen the other day (during the day), but last night it was all pixilated and on occasion would say it was searching for a signal.

Mine froze up in Sowal, too. It wasn't a pretty sight with some actors mouth hanging wide open. :blink:
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#380
Vultures!

4/23: Mom was rushed to the ER with breathing difficulties. She was diagnosed with atrial fibrillation. That got under control with Cardizem, and she was put on a blood thinner due to the risk of blood clots. We were visited by the case manager to see if we wanted to talk to hospice. She said that hospice would provide an extra level of care for Mom. We were presented with a list of hospice providers. We were in the hospital with no means of evaluating them. The case manager recommended Company X. We agreed to talk to them. X said that Mom didn?t qualify for hospice due to her being proactively treated for the heart problem and clots, but that they would do us a favor and qualify her due to being in end-stage Alzheimer?s.

We didn?t sign the papers immediately. The case manager and the X people visited us several times a day and seemed so caring and supporting. They emphasized how Mom would receive an extra level of care with them doing in-hospital hospice.

4/29: Mom hit a low point. We were told that she would die within hours and that the family should plan to spend the night.

4/30: We signed the hospice papers, and X talked us into stopping the meds other than those for pain, along with the electronic monitoring, so that Mom's last days would be comfortable.

5/1: Our daughter who was pre-med at Georgia Tech visited and got furious about hospice care (actually, the lack of care). From observing Mom, she said Mom had too much quality of life to be written off. She insisted that Mom be put back on a blood thinner, heart meds, and monitoring. Because sister, brother, and I were so mesmerized and pressured by the case manager and X who kept pushing us for hospice, not to mention our being thoroughly exhausted and thus unable to make intelligent decisions, we got caught up with the sales pitch of the hospice company. Daughter gave us a reality check. I contacted sister and said we wanted to put Mom back on meds and monitoring.

5/2: Daughter's (and our, because sister totally agreed) wishes were followed. Mom experienced a remarkable improvement. Sister and I realized that Mom hadn?t been receiving an extra level of care after signing up with hospice ? actually she was receiving less care. That night a rep of X visited. She obviously had not read Mom?s chart. Sister and I went ballistic. We scared everyone in the hospital in advocacy of our Mom?s care. We refused to sign papers that said that if we discontinued X, we were signing away 90 days worth of Medicare. That's not what they told us when we signed up with X. They said that we could change our minds at any time and not lose anything. BTW right after that, sister was walking by the nurses? station where the X rep was, and she heard someone say, ?Hey, we?ve got someone who can read.?
Basically we feel that we were pressured into hospice so that X could make money from Medicare. They were amenable to giving us the ?favor? on 4/23 because as soon as they acquired the signature, they would make 90 days of money from Medicare. They are a for-profit company. Frankly the reason that they were constantly hounding us and providing ?support? is because they were afraid Mom would die before they got her signed up, and thus the income.

The care was sub-standard. They told us that electronic monitoring was unnecessary, they took Mom off her meds, and Mom had her vitals checked less often. The only ?extra care? Mom got was visits from a fake-caring chaplain who made me want to puke, a visit from a social worker who was clueless, and the visit from a clueless dumbass who visited Mom last night that caused sister and I to go ballistic.

Also on company X's watch was the fact that they didn?t even notice that Mom had an infection from a poorly-installed IV. Mom complained to me that her arm hurt. I was afraid she was having a heart attack. I looked at her arm, and there was a huge, gross-looking infection from an IV. The X people were scared ****less. They knew that they had screwed up.

The hospice people are like vultures. If they see someone who is in an end-of-life situation, they barrage the family to sign up for hospice ASAP because if the patient dies before the family signs up, they lose income. These hospice companies are for-profit companies. They are totally about making money, not for caring for the patient. In retrospect, that comes across as totally fake.
Bottom line: if you have a loved one in the hospital, you must be there for them 24/7 to advocate for them. And even if you are there, if you are not a physician, mistakes will be made. I am 100% sure that if we had not been there 24/7 for Mom, we would be having a funeral in the next day or so. It still could happen (heck, it could happen to all of us, regardless of age). But it is more likely for an older person. Like daughter said, she is not willing to give up on Nanny. A few weeks, a few months, and beyond, is what we want for our sweet Mom/Nanny.

Mom got well enough to leave the hospital on Monday. She is at a non-profit hospice facility at Christian City that is by-invitation-only. They had a waiting list, but years ago my Daddy was one of the founders of Christian City, and he gave a large amount of money in memory of my brother. So Mom got right in. It is so nice. We feel good about he being cared for by people who know our family.
TooFarTampa avatar
SoWal Insider
#381
BR, I am sorry for this! Kudos to you and Beach Jacket for being on top of things.

I had absolutely no idea that hospice care could be for-profit. This seems 100 percent counterintuitive. I found an interesting blog entry with the following paragraph:

What’s so frightening about the case of for-profit hospices in particular is that cutting corners undermines the whole mission of hospice care. As Dr. Bradley’s team notes in their 2005 study, for-profit hospices risk losing sight of “the fundamental principles of hospice” because they are not doing all they can to support and comfort patients and families during the final stages of life. There’s really no way to do a half-way job with hospice care: you’re either doing everything you can to make dying people and their families feel better, or you’re not. This is not a calculus that comes down to dollars.

Health Beat: The Danger of For-Profit Hospices

It was bad enough when big hospital companies became for-profit enterprises; the idea of a for-profit hospice is sickening to me. Seems like outlawing this would be a good way to save some bucks on Medicare. Might be a good time to shoot a letter to the Obama team.

Continued well wishes to your mom and family. :wub:
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#382
BR, I am sorry for this! Kudos to you and Beach Jacket for being on top of things.

I had absolutely no idea that hospice care could be for-profit. This seems 100 percent counterintuitive. I found an interesting blog entry with the following paragraph:



Health Beat: The Danger of For-Profit Hospices

It was bad enough when big hospital companies became for-profit enterprises; the idea of a for-profit hospice is sickening to me. Seems like outlawing this would be a good way to save some bucks on Medicare. Might be a good time to shoot a letter to the Obama team.

Continued well wishes to your mom and family. :wub:
I will definitely send this info to sister. Thanks.
TooFarTampa avatar
SoWal Insider
#383
I will definitely send this info to sister. Thanks.

BR now I am all worked up on your behalf. :lol:

It seems wrong to me that the representative of a for-profit hospice company is allowed to come to a hospital and pressure family members into signing a contract, at such a sensitive time.

Drug and device companies get a lot of flak, but they work with the physicians and hospitals and do not sell their products directly to patients or families. Plus those companies are limited in the way they can sell their products -- it is supposed to be based only on efficacy and price structure, not junkets or pressure. I wonder what kind of regulations these for-profit hospices are operating under?

I am seriously considering writing my Congresswoman about this, with a note to the Obama people too. This seems like such an obvious area to set up strict regulations and save money for the taxpayers. Maybe I am missing something. I am a strong believer in palliative and hospice care and it should be supported by Medicare, but not seen as a profit opportunity for companies and shareholders. :bang:
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#384
Hospice was a total godsend when my grandpa was sick - these people sound QUITE different! :angry:
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#385
What's so unsavory is that because they got their 90 days of money from Medicare, it was in their financial interest for Mom to die because they could stop paying their employees and stop paying for Mom's meds and supplies, yet keep the money.:pissed:

And the hospital case worker is just a fox in the henhouse.:pissed:The thing is, TFT, the case worker is a hospital employee who used to work for Company X. My guess is that Company X wasn't allowed in the hospital until we agreed to talk to them after great pressure.:idontno:I'll ask sister.

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Matt J avatar
SWGB
#386
My mother's hospice care was absolutely wonderful. However we used a non-profit Hospice organization. I can't imagine trying to turn a profit on this type of care.
NoHall avatar
hmmmm......can't remember
#387
BR, I'm so sorry you're going through this. It's bad enough to endure the stress and pain of serious illness in your family without having to deal with vultures...
Rita avatar
margarita brocolia
#388
Hospice was a total godsend when my grandpa was sick - these people sound QUITE different! :angry:

My mother's hospice care was absolutely wonderful. However we used a non-profit Hospice organization. I can't imagine trying to turn a profit on this type of care.

We also had a wonderful experience w/hospice last winter.

BR, I was getting concerned that you were "broadbrushing" hospice care, but I did not realize that for-profit hospices existed. It does not seem right and I am sorry your family and your mom had to deal with all this. I'm glad she and your family are where you are all comfortable now though. Sending my thoughts and prayers.

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scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#389
Nothing I love more than incompetent morons talking down to me and explaining how things work like I am a 4 year old.

Really, I had no idea! I only do this for a living, so thank you SO MUCH for explaining how it works (incorrectly BTW) and clearing that up for me. :angry:
kitlit avatar
Beach Fanatic
#390
If they're going to call them "Smart Cars" shouldn't they be required to sell them to smart drivers? Just saw one on 98 weaving in and out of (very tight) traffic. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should... :bang:
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#391
If they're going to call them "Smart Cars" shouldn't they be required to sell them to smart drivers? Just saw one on 98 weaving in and out of (very tight) traffic. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should... :bang:

I wouldn't worry about it, whoever it is will be a "Smart Bump" if they keep driving like that.
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#392
I AM ALREADY BORED! I have to give an exam today from 8-11 and another one from 11:30-2:30.

Granted it's nothing to complain about as compared to the previous two weeks.

Where is everybody? Someone please entertain me!:biggrin:
Lynnie avatar
SoWal Insider
#393
I'm here~~~~

I am getting ready to research urine odor eradicator~~~~~

Want to help?
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#394
I'm here~~~~

I am getting ready to research urine odor eradicator~~~~~

Want to help?
Sure. :wave: Doctor Beach Jacket would know the answer, but right now she's completing a sculpture of a cheesy nude from the 60's for her sculpture final. Her prof thinks it's hilarious.
Lynnie avatar
SoWal Insider
#395
Sure. :wave: Doctor Beach Jacket would know the answer, but right now she's completing a sculpture of a cheesy nude from the 60's for her sculpture final. Her prof thinks it's hilarious.


That's funny! Post a pic if she'll let you.

I have a gorgeous rug that has evidently been used as the potty. Not sure how long ago, but I steamcleaned all my rugs a few days ago and it really brought the odor out. I keep finding 'bacteria' based products to eradicate this and would like to try a home remedy of sorts first.

My only other option is throw away the rug and that ain't happening!
Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#396
That's funny! Post a pic if she'll let you.

I have a gorgeous rug that has evidently been used as the potty. Not sure how long ago, but I steamcleaned all my rugs a few days ago and it really brought the odor out. I keep finding 'bacteria' based products to eradicate this and would like to try a home remedy of sorts first.

My only other option is throw away the rug and that ain't happening!
For the rug odor, I asked Mr. Wizard (hubby).
EDIT:
Sounds like a problem with the pro, but if it is not dry to its natural moisture level, wool smells bad. First I would make sure it is dry. Then tell the pro to get the chemicals out. It could be that they used solvent to clean it like a dry cleaner. That problem permeates the entire structure to places Capture can’t reach, but Capture could help.
EDIT #2: OOPS! I told him you had it professionally cleaned.

For the other odor, I've seen two solutions: water and cranberry juice.

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Rita avatar
margarita brocolia
#397
That's funny! Post a pic if she'll let you.

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Of the "cheesy nude" or the sculpture?..:biggrin:

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Beach Runner avatar
beats on hood
#398
Everyone has finished their exam EXCEPT FOR ONE GUY WHO HASN'T SHOWN UP YET!:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:
Technically he has until 2:30 EDT.:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#399
Dear touron,

Don't worry about it, I needed to test the breaking distance of my truck. After all if you had let that turn lane two lanes over go by you might have had to make a safe and legal u-turn. I know the GPS girl can be stern, and downright biatchy sometimes, but slamming on you breaks at 60 mph to "zip" across two lanes of traffic is going to cause problems, every time. I truly hope that you enjoy your visit and will show me the same courtesy when I do the same in Atlanta, I know this because the dealer sticker on your car came that close to my face.

Sincerely,

Still in shock.
aggieb avatar
Beach Fanatic
#400
well, i'll be dammed, i totally forgot about random rants. all those times i was randomly thinking/venting i could have been randomly ranting.

vacay is callin' your name swgb, think i just heard it.:wave:
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#401
It so is, this will be a nice relaxing weekend in St. Joe. :roll:

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