Sheriff's Candidate Polling...

First things first, show us the poll. You can't and you won't because this rumor has been going around for two weeks now. There is no poll. No, I will not shut up until I see the poll. Polls cost $$$ and no one has listed this on the contribution expense, if so, show me.

This is yet another silly attempt to maintain falling support.

I call B.S. until you prove otherwise.

Was this done by Blue?;-)

Funny....I haven't been polled? Has anyone else????? Let's see if we really have been polled? Anyone?

B.ravo S.eria

Funny....I haven't been polled? Has anyone else????? Let's see if we really have been polled? Anyone?

No one has been polled. This is bogus and if, IF it was done, it was months ago, I bet by RJ (the only one with the stones enough to not report it).

Polls cost about $3 to $4k. See any financial reports lately?

Response

Atkinson 29 percent
Johnson 19 percent
Cooper 9 percent

margin of error 4.7 percent - 21 percent undecided

Poll completed 1 week ago

Last I saw

You have not yet responded to my request for the poll. Again, I call B.S.

I have a poll:

Who thinks this is B.S.?

BS= 100%

Reliable = 0%

If it walks like a duck...

w;-)

No one has been polled. This is bogus and if, IF it was done, it was months ago, I bet by RJ (the only one with the stones enough to not report it).

Polls cost about $3 to $4k. See any financial reports lately?

I am probably going to regret this, but, here goes. Why in the world would it be on a financial report for a candidate unless a candidate did the poll? Are you suggesting that whomever wins the poll is suppose to report it? If someone goes and conducts a poll on their own, for whatever reason, who would they report that too? I am not even sure that a poll would fall into the category of electioneering.

pawn

I am probably going to regret this, but, here goes. Why in the world would it be on a financial report for a candidate unless a candidate did the poll? Are you suggesting that whomever wins the poll is suppose to report it? If someone goes and conducts a poll on their own, for whatever reason, who would they report that too? I am not even sure that a poll would fall into the category of electioneering.

good question. other then a pawn, who in their right mind would spend money on a poll?

I do a poll every day and it costs me a cup of coffee at the Tom Thumb. Its call public opinion. Seems to work most of the time....

good question. other then a pawn, who in their right mind would spend money on a poll?

This country is great. People can spend their money on just about anything that they want. And they can do it without having to explain themselves to the rest of us. Maybe they want to be in the know. Who knows. But some can afford to do such things and believe it or not, they do.

Ok

This country is great. People can spend their money on just about anything that they want. And they can do it without having to explain themselves to the rest of us. Maybe they want to be in the know. Who knows. But some can afford to do such things and believe it or not, they do.

OK, I spent my money, all $1.04 worth and I still say it BS.

Well lets see first things first:

Idlewind - please understand that I never stated that Atkinson was ahead of Cooper in *29. What I said was that it has traditioonaly been a hugh Johnson precinct. Cooper is very strong in 29 and every vote tken away from Johnson helps Atkinson.

Second I never said that I had the poll or that a candidate had paid for it -just the opposite - I siad that someome that that is known to frequently conduct polls had had it done. I just saw a copy and remembered some aspects of the results - some I said I did not remember.

Believe what you want. Tuesday will be here soon and it will all be settled.

Last You Saw

Atkinson 29 percent
Johnson 19 percent
Cooper 9 percent

margin of error 4.7 percent - 21 percent undecided

Poll completed 1 week ago

Last I saw

I have encluded what you said for your reference.

I am interested in the "Last I saw" part. Please produce the poll or the source it came from. Until then, it is BS.

Well lets see first things first:

Idlewind - please understand that I never stated that Atkinson was ahead of Cooper in *29. What I said was that it has traditioonaly been a hugh Johnson precinct. Cooper is very strong in 29 and every vote tken away from Johnson helps Atkinson.

Second I never said that I had the poll or that a candidate had paid for it -just the opposite - I siad that someome that that is known to frequently conduct polls had had it done. I just saw a copy and remembered some aspects of the results - some I said I did not remember.

Believe what you want. Tuesday will be here soon and it will all be settled.

What part of that is unclear ?

This part

What part of that is unclear ?

The part where you fail to respond to where you saw the "poll". You say you "Saw" it, so where did you see it?

(sorry to sound so rude)...:roll:

My Own Poll

I did my own poll, it cost me about $15, which is equivlent to about 15 seconds of my time...

Here it is:
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De Funiak Springs, FL
Who will you vote for Sheriff in 2008 Primary

created by: Billy Bob | Thursday Aug 21

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• Results

Click on an option to vote
257 votes

• Posted in the De Funiak Springs Forum
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• Tony Cornman
• Tom Cooper
• Ralph Johnson
• Mike Adkinson Jr.
• Jimmy Macon
• Dennis Wise
• Richard Brown
• Won't Vote
• Undecided
• Wait until General Election

Tom Cooper110
42%
Mike Adkinson Jr.60
23%
Tony Cornman41
15%
Ralph Johnson18
7%
Won't Vote8
3%
Wait until General Election7
2%
Jimmy Macon4
1%
Dennis Wise4
1%
Undecided3
1%
Richard Brown2
0%
Current Total257





Right now, my poll holds more water then yours, I produced it. You have yet to provide any realistic impression of what can even be considered a poll.

Mine was done by Billy Bob and it has not be edited in any way. You see, it is all a matter of perspective. (note, this is mostly N. End Voters, as per Billy Bob).

b seeing u,

w;-)

My reasons to follow

I dont follow polls. I may read them but I dont let them influence my decision either way when it comes to such an important thing as my one vote. You can get just about any result you want depending on how a poll was taken, who conducted it and what party conducted or requested it.
I have gone directly to the candidates in this sheriff race and listened to each and every one. Then I listened to them as they spoke to me one on one about my concerns and their concerns.
I weighed all the elements we look for in a constitutional leader. The result was that I learned that education without character is valueless.

I have concluded in my opinion I would support and vote for the one person that stood out as
A TRUE VOICE FOR THE FUTURE...NOT AN ECHO FROM THE PAST....
TOM COOPER.

Dont mean to rain on your parade, but here is a poll result for you, may be fake may not but looks to me like its too close to call sportsfans. Does anyone have a red flag to throw for the replay?

Customer/ 0708004
Poll date/ 27 - 29 July 2008
Location/ Walton County, Florida
Grouping/ 400
Focus/ Sheriff election, Primary, August 26 2008, Walton County, Florida
Margin/ +/- 0.6 percentile
Discussion/ Poll consisted of 343 of 400 telephone responses in the 850 area
targeting the prefix 231, 267, 622, 835, 859, 892, 951. All respondents were infomed the responses are for data collection and will not effect the outcome of the targeted election, nor will any numbers be offered for solicitaion. All telephone numbers were randomly chosen via a GDR 125 type 2 line selection program pBX intergration based on the pre determined criteria. Only those respondents sucessfully completing the poll were calculated in final result. A non response to the question deemed that respondent void in the calculation.
Question/ 1. will you vote on August 26, 2008 in the Walton County Primary? 2. Did you vote in the 2004 Primary? 3. By name only, which candidate would you select for Sheriff in this survey today/ Adkinson, M., Brown, R., Cooper, T., Cornman T., Johnson, R., Macon, J., Wise, D.
Summary/ Adkinson 23% 78.6 Brown 7% 24.0 Cooper 25% 85.7 Cornman 21% 72.0 Johnson 13% 44.5 Macon 6% 20.5 Wise 5% 17.1

I like the numbers, but they also called my cell phone. I also answered one for County Commisioners, State House 5 would love to see those numbers.

Cooper
Braunstein
L Jones
Wilkerson
Davis
Anderson
J McDaniel (House Seat 5)

Thanks

Dont mean to rain on your parade, but here is a poll result for you, may be fake may not but looks to me like its too close to call sportsfans. Does anyone have a red flag to throw for the replay?

Customer/ 0708004
Poll date/ 27 - 29 July 2008
Location/ Walton County, Florida
Grouping/ 400
Focus/ Sheriff election, Primary, August 26 2008, Walton County, Florida
Margin/ +/- 0.6 percentile
Discussion/ Poll consisted of 343 of 400 telephone responses in the 850 area
targeting the prefix 231, 267, 622, 835, 859, 892, 951. All respondents were infomed the responses are for data collection and will not effect the outcome of the targeted election, nor will any numbers be offered for solicitaion. All telephone numbers were randomly chosen via a GDR 125 type 2 line selection program pBX intergration based on the pre determined criteria. Only those respondents sucessfully completing the poll were calculated in final result. A non response to the question deemed that respondent void in the calculation.
Question/ 1. will you vote on August 26, 2008 in the Walton County Primary? 2. Did you vote in the 2004 Primary? 3. By name only, which candidate would you select for Sheriff in this survey today/ Adkinson, M., Brown, R., Cooper, T., Cornman T., Johnson, R., Macon, J., Wise, D.
Summary/ Adkinson 23% 78.6 Brown 7% 24.0 Cooper 25% 85.7 Cornman 21% 72.0 Johnson 13% 44.5 Macon 6% 20.5 Wise 5% 17.1

Great Work, thank you.

I noticed the date is from July 2008. A lot has happened since then and I'd bet the numbers are NOT so close now...;-)

For those continuing to ask who has been polled, I for one have. Approximately two weeks ago, a little less.

Interested Girl, you made reference to District 4 numbers. May be a coincidence, but the call I received did have a question for that race. Also, other races were polled, mainly the commissioners.

Also, while I agree that posting the actual poll would be best (I am sure some want you to scan the hard copy and go that far), I haven't heard Interested Girl say she had that poll, only that she had seen it.

WRobert, you might be able to help us here, but if a private citizen takes a poll, can they release it legally? I had been told by a candidate (not for the sheriff's position) that if a candidate pays for a poll as part of the campaign, that poll can be released, but if it is privately done, it cannot be released. So telling someone the results, or showing them the poll might not be illegal, but turning it over for public release might be?

Also, that poll on Topix, come on guys, you can vote multiple times.

WRobert, you might be able to help us here, but if a private citizen takes a poll, can they release it legally? I had been told by a candidate (not for the sheriff's position) that if a candidate pays for a poll as part of the campaign, that poll can be released, but if it is privately done, it cannot be released. So telling someone the results, or showing them the poll might not be illegal, but turning it over for public release might be?

I can not think of a reason as to why, a private citizen, could not release a private poll. Polls are not advocating for any particular candidate and preventing the release would, imho, be a serious infringement of the 1st amendment. Of course, I also believe that the fact that you have to file paperwork if you spend over $100 to be serious constitutional issue.

Interested Girl,

You seem pretty smart. I agree. This explains why Adkinson has seemingly concentrated his campaign on North Walton, and not expressed great interest in South Walton at all.

Go ahead, let Cooper keep getting all of Johnson's "South Walton" votes, while Adkinson takes care of North Walton, thereby winning the primary. Fuel prices are high. If I'm right, with a moderately strong candidate (such as Cooper) collecting lots of votes on the south-end, essentially Adkinson didn't really have to travel across the bridge (331) during the entire campaign anyway. Yet still wins the primary.

See, other people... Adkinson seems to have turned it around and used his opposition to his own advantage. Historically, Walton candidates have concentrated mostly on the south-end to win an election. Flip, flop it around... fool people up good. Stay north, save gas, and eventually win the election, while all those other candidates go straight to the south-end to politic. To late for us northern folks now, though.

Go Adkinson!!

Adkinson collected the BIG, BIG majority of his support from the north-end. Do the math, people. "The North (Walton) shall rise again!" Just a little, "I told you so."

One of the dogs

Adkinson collected the BIG, BIG majority of his support from the north-end. Do the math, people. "The North (Walton) shall rise again!" Just a little, "I told you so."

You are very quick to "stick it in the face of the South End", I wonder why? Did Mike not get support down here? I think (know) that he did. So why would one of his supporters be so quick to dish it out and draw a line from N to S? I sincerely hope you are not a representation of the mentality of the new administration to come.

Your quick snaps to tell "us" that you told us so, expose your true colors. Instead of trying to make Walton County better, you seem to only want North Walton County to succeed. Sad way of thinking and if you are a reflection of the Adkinson Republican Campaign, I think I'll sit this one out.

w

You are very quick to "stick it in the face of the South End", I wonder why? Did Mike not get support down here? I think (know) that he did. So why would one of his supporters be so quick to dish it out and draw a line from N to S? I sincerely hope you are not a representation of the mentality of the new administration to come.

Your quick snaps to tell "us" that you told us so, expose your true colors. Instead of trying to make Walton County better, you seem to only want North Walton County to succeed. Sad way of thinking and if you are a reflection of the Adkinson Republican Campaign, I think I'll sit this one out.

w

The Watcher,

You don't have to sit any longer, stand up and be proud of Adkinson! "Sheriff Adkinson" become official in 2009, period. On November 4 the BIG, BIG majority of "south-end" voters will vote for him, first and foremost because he is a Republican. We all now the majority of South Walton Voters vote for the Republican Party in the General Elections. See, Mr. Watcher, he can still save his gas and stay north during the remainder of the campaign. Don't worry, I strongly believe he will serve the "south-end (mostly Cooper supporters)" with fairness, nevertheless.

As a person who has openly admitted that he supported Adkinson, I continue to doubt the credibility of some of these posts. I highly doubt Mr. Adkinson feels the way DFSBoy does, and I continue to question if DFSBoy is truly a supporter of Adkinson, or merely someone trying to stir up anti-Adkinson sentiment.

And DFSBoy, if you truly do support Mr. Adkinson, on behalf of us other supporters, and those in SoWal, please, give it a rest.

Exactly my point

The Watcher,

You don't have to sit any longer, stand up and be proud of Adkinson! "Sheriff Adkinson" become official in 2009, period. On November 4 the BIG, BIG majority of "south-end" voters will vote for him, first and foremost because he is a Republican. We all now the majority of South Walton Voters vote for the Republican Party in the General Elections. See, Mr. Watcher, he can still save his gas and stay north during the remainder of the campaign. Don't worry, I strongly believe he will serve the "south-end (mostly Cooper supporters)" with fairness, nevertheless.

Again, you prove my point exactly on mark.

You are right, Mike will get the votes, he is the Rep. and he is best suited for the job, no questions there. Where I have issue is that you feel he can just "save gas" and not come see us all down here. Mistake. Do not assume anything. I know that Mike will serve the entire County to the best of his ability. It is people/supporters like yourself that want to push the envelope of N vs. S and that is the scary part. Will Mike surround himself with people like you? or will he look to do what is right for the County? Mike was never really the problem, it is some, I did say some, of those who support him. That sort of mentality is old, out of date and not productive to making WCSO #1.

As for the "south-end (mostly Cooper supporters)", you fail to see that Mike did get votes from us down here. Cooper also pulled votes from Mike up north. So, please stop stereotyping and stop making the other Adkinson supporters look bad by continuing to poke fun at the South End. Just an idea

w

You have not yet responded to my request for the poll. Again, I call B.S.

I have a poll:

Who thinks this is B.S.?

BS= 100%

Reliable = 0%

If it walks like a duck...

w;-)

Guess it wasn't B.S. after all.

I think the Watcher has some good points here, from this point foward this needs to be a group effort and not a North/South shoot out. We are all looking for the best for the county and what the Adkinson change brings to the Sheriff's Office. There is no doubt Adkinson is the best choice for the change at least in my eyes.

But if were gonna start throwning flags now, than lets throw them on everyone. The Watcher, has taken his share of pot shots at Adkinson supports over the last few months. Even though I dont agree with the "throw it up in your face" as some of the others here. You have to admit that you have done your fare share of throwing fuel on the fire.

Cant we all agree to disagree on the past and move on to what the future holds in store.