Another Bunch of out of touch elected officials.
At the Dec. 3 South Walton Fire District Fire Board meeting, Fire Commissioner Brian Christenson suggested using money still in the budget to recognize and reward full-time employees.
The $19,899.49 was budgeted in 2007 for a new employee that won’t be hired until next year.
Christenson suggested a $200 Christmas bonus, for a total of $19,800.
In the past, the fire district has not given holiday bonuses. Last year, each employee received a $25 gift certificate in lieu of the annual Christmas party.
“Firefighters do everything to make sure no one is left out during the holidays,” Commissioner Donna Crawford said. “They are paid well, but they are still civil service and don’t get paid enough. I would like to see the firefighters and staff have a nice Christmas.”
Fire Commissioner Jack Abbit, who had worked with the firefighters during contract negotiations, expressed concern that the bonuses might set a precedent.
Fire board attorney Allan Ramey suggested the board could be creating a problem and advised the fire chief to run it by the labor attorneys. He also said when the Walton County Taxpayers Association, a local watchdog group, look at this, they might ask, “Are you serving the people who elected us?”
Abbit advised the board to step back and do something less. He agreed with Ramey “that the Taxpayers Association might come in and say we gave this money away.”
Although Commissioner Mike Stange said he would love to give a $200 bonus, that was definitely setting a precedent. He suggested a $100 gift certificate.
Fire Chief Rick Talbert said whether it was a $25 gift certificate or the suggested $100, it was all in the delivery. He asked the board’s permission to draft a letter that explained where the money came from.
The motion to give a $100 gift certificate to all annual full-time employees as an end of year holiday gift was unanimously approved, subject to the approval of the labor attorneys.
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60Beach LoverAuthor
Re: South Walton Fire Board
I have never complained or stated that I thought that their salaries were to high, or that they do not earn every dime the receive. They full fill a valuable needed service. The post on their website concerning firefighters position has been there for over a year. They need to constantly keep an eye and ear to the ground for potential employees.
They do not have an employee turnover rate problem.
I think everyone has missed the issue - it's not their salary. There salaries are negoiated with the Fire Board and their union. Their salaries are a part of the budget. This action is unbudgeted and unwise from a fudiciary standpoint.
Why in the world would you drag spanish-speaking individuals and outsourcing into a discussion on the relative "due diligence" role that the fire board took in this issue.
I have never complained or stated that I thought that their salaries were to high, or that they do not earn every dime the receive. They full fill a valuable needed service. The post on their website concerning firefighters position has been there for over a year. They need to constantly keep an eye and ear to the ground for potential employees.
They do not have an employee turnover rate problem.
I think everyone has missed the issue - it's not their salary. There salaries are negoiated with the Fire Board and their union. Their salaries are a part of the budget. This action is unbudgeted and unwise from a fudiciary standpoint.
Why in the world would you drag spanish-speaking individuals and outsourcing into a discussion on the relative "due diligence" role that the fire board took in this issue.
Beach LoverAuthor
Re: South Walton Fire Board
The $1,200 is the SWFD portion of my total Walton County Tax Bill's.
Believe me what I paid the School Board and BCC are higher. The school system doesn't give a "Holiday Bonus" and the BCC gives a "turkey" or I would be screaming if they decided to give them 4 turkeys this year.
The $1,200 is the SWFD portion of my total Walton County Tax Bill's.
Believe me what I paid the School Board and BCC are higher. The school system doesn't give a "Holiday Bonus" and the BCC gives a "turkey" or I would be screaming if they decided to give them 4 turkeys this year.
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Beach Lover
Re: South Walton Fire Board
Does any one know what other fire departments get. I have been told that Destin and other fire districts in Okaloosa get a $500.00 christmas bounus. I have not found out for sure but i was told that today.
Does any one know what other fire departments get. I have been told that Destin and other fire districts in Okaloosa get a $500.00 christmas bounus. I have not found out for sure but i was told that today.
SoWal Expert
Re: South Walton Fire Board
Please remember these are starting salaries plus benefits.
Effective October 1, 2007 FF/EMT starting salary is $38,398 and FF/PM starting salary is $44,121 with additional incentives available.
I have never complained or stated that I thought that their salaries were to high, or that they do not earn every dime the receive....No, you didn't complain, but your post regarding salaries was for what reason?
SoWal Expert
Re: South Walton Fire Board
These people should receive the max Christmas bonus that is available to give them, period. I am appalled that someone would be worried about the exact percentage increase of the Christmas bonus for fire department employees. If you don't think these people deserve a HUGE Christmas bonus, and think I should write the check for it, then YOU should suit up and volunteer with the fire department yourself. I'll give you a ham.
These people should receive the max Christmas bonus that is available to give them, period. I am appalled that someone would be worried about the exact percentage increase of the Christmas bonus for fire department employees. If you don't think these people deserve a HUGE Christmas bonus, and think I should write the check for it, then YOU should suit up and volunteer with the fire department yourself. I'll give you a ham.
Beach LoverAuthor
Re: South Walton Fire Board
Simply because NotDeadYet said:
"Personally, I don't see a problem here.
I think they should have given them the whole $200. They really don't get paid enough, imho."
Simply because NotDeadYet said:
"Personally, I don't see a problem here.
I think they should have given them the whole $200. They really don't get paid enough, imho."
Beach Lover
Re: South Walton Fire Board
I think WileCoyote is a EX-Employee who has been posting to the news story on the Daily News Website. If you go to NWFDailynews.com and do a serch for the story and look at all of the post you will see there is one very disgruntled EX-Employee on there making remarks.
I think WileCoyote is a EX-Employee who has been posting to the news story on the Daily News Website. If you go to NWFDailynews.com and do a serch for the story and look at all of the post you will see there is one very disgruntled EX-Employee on there making remarks.
Beach Lover
Re: South Walton Fire Board
I think this thread has probably played itself out. It appears most that posted had no big issue and appreciate the SWFD firemen. Coyote's point that it may not have been fiduciary responsible is a point well taken, I would think the fire board has seen, read and heard those comments and will use them as a lesson in the future. These threads are to discuss, brag and vent on issues. As far as disgruntled ex employees and the like- they probably dont deserve the response or energy to do so. Lets have a great holiday season. imho
I think this thread has probably played itself out. It appears most that posted had no big issue and appreciate the SWFD firemen. Coyote's point that it may not have been fiduciary responsible is a point well taken, I would think the fire board has seen, read and heard those comments and will use them as a lesson in the future. These threads are to discuss, brag and vent on issues. As far as disgruntled ex employees and the like- they probably dont deserve the response or energy to do so. Lets have a great holiday season. imho
Beach LoverAuthor
Re: South Walton Fire Board
Wrong !
I think WileCoyote is a EX-Employee who has been posting to the news story on the Daily News Website. If you go to NWFDailynews.com and do a serch for the story and look at all of the post you will see there is one very disgruntled EX-Employee on there making remarks.
Wrong !
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