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PoppaJ

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Yes because if you're accused of something even though it isn't based on fact you are still accountable until you prove it's a lie. This is exactly like the Planned Parenthood debacle. Republicans are still claiming they are selling baby parts even though no less than eleven states have investigated them and found this to be untrue and found zero evidence of wrong doing or illegal activities, the latest being Texas who ended up indicting the ones who made the video,
 

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Ahh I see, so it is fact if it fits in with someone's agenda, but speculation or lies if it doesn't. People, on both sides, don't care so much about the truth as much as they care about the position and the appearance of righteousness.
 

carson

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That is my point, the laundry list of accusations against Hilary, none of this is true? Unfounded accusations?

And what is "fact"? Fact Check? Politifact?
 

PoppaJ

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If Republicans are so sure she has commited a crime why don't they charge her and take her to court? If their facts are so irrefutable they should have no problem obtaining a conviction. Innuendo, gossip, and rumors only prove guilt on Fox News not in court.
 

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I watched the town hall last night, I loved the student that said his generation didn't trust Hilary and they looked at her as a liar, an insider and untrustworthy. Her answer was.."THEY just keep coming at me and I am still standing. THEY do not like me because I stand for change and always have since I was your age."

Proof again that there is a Hillbilly Mafia is alive and well. Benghazi? Did we forget about White Water, Vince Foster, Travelgate, Emailgate, the IRS gestapo, The Rose Law Firm, the Clinton Foundation...shall we continue. So Fugazi on your Benghazi. Saul Alinsky anyone? Those pesky Republicans. just want to make Hilary look bad...but she is still standing.
Easy now, you're getting a little tinfoil-hatish
 

carson

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Easy now, you're getting a little tinfoil-hatish

Not at all I traded in in for my old dunce hat. The point is if you play the game and you play it the way it is played inside the Beltway it ain't pretty. What everyone has to accept...not understand...is you may not like Hilary, or Rummie, but they are the Sabans of the game..Teflon Dons. If she isn't guilty of half of the accusations then Rick Scott has dreadlocks. Rummie criminal, Hilary just in unfortunate situations? Really?

Who is wearing the tin hat? That would be like trying to deny aliens didn't really beam Elvis up.
 

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Not at all I traded in in for my old dunce hat. The point is if you play the game and you play it the way it is played inside the Beltway it ain't pretty. What everyone has to accept...not understand...is you may not like Hilary, or Rummie, but they are the Sabans of the game..Teflon Dons. If she isn't guilty of half of the accusations then Rick Scott has dreadlocks. Rummie criminal, Hilary just in unfortunate situations? Really?

Who is wearing the tin hat? That would be like trying to deny aliens didn't really beam Elvis up.

I would find Rumsfeld's lawful activity more abominable than Hillary's alleged crimes.
 

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I would find Rumsfeld's lawful activity more abominable than Hillary's alleged crimes.

Depends on your definition of crime I suppose. A vote for Hilary is a vote for the same old stand still BS, get nothing done etc.. statistically look at the increases in personal wealth from public office. A Republican holding a staff office with a private email server with CNN, CNBC, MSNBC and the other Demopologist networks would have been consensus of String them up. I can hear the "can you believe how stupid and dangerous Mr Republican was for that treasonous act." But with 2015/16 media, "well she doesn't know that much about technology and she was just protecting her private conversations".

Such a bullshit double standard. I stick with they all suck and the country is due a great barium enema. Protecting or endorsing the Dems and shear hate of the Publicants is equally as pathetic.

We should, as semi coherent and literate people, should be either demanding more from the party that we feel like best represents the people as WE see it, or should be actively petitioning for the Common Sense party. These choices are just amazing, I imagined telling my die hard Democratic Grandfather on one side and my other diehard Republican Grandfather about the candidates, I would finally see them agree on something and can envision cigars and whiskey and lots of laughs.

A travesty of US politics..criminal douche bag vs. Loudmouth idiot. Thanks America.
 

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Depends on your definition of crime I suppose. A vote for Hilary is a vote for the same old stand still BS, get nothing done etc.. statistically look at the increases in personal wealth from public office. A Republican holding a staff office with a private email server with CNN, CNBC, MSNBC and the other Demopologist networks would have been consensus of String them up. I can hear the "can you believe how stupid and dangerous Mr Republican was for that treasonous act." But with 2015/16 media, "well she doesn't know that much about technology and she was just protecting her private conversations".

Such a bullshit double standard. I stick with they all suck and the country is due a great barium enema. Protecting or endorsing the Dems and shear hate of the Publicants is equally as pathetic.

We should, as semi coherent and literate people, should be either demanding more from the party that we feel like best represents the people as WE see it, or should be actively petitioning for the Common Sense party. These choices are just amazing, I imagined telling my die hard Democratic Grandfather on one side and my other diehard Republican Grandfather about the candidates, I would finally see them agree on something and can envision cigars and whiskey and lots of laughs.

A travesty of US politics..criminal douche bag vs. Loudmouth idiot. Thanks America.

It's really not that complicated. Vote for Trump if you think the country would be better off than if Hillary or Bernie were president. It's not a big emotionally charged decision for me.:yawn:
 
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