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Creeklover

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Most are for 2nd and 3rd homes. To bad for the owners:(

Matt J

SWGB

[quote="Creeklover, post: 520211"]Most are for 2nd and 3rd homes. To bad for the owners:([/quote]

True, Bay County is gonna kick our butts in the 2009/2010 numbers though.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Creeklover">Most are for 2nd and 3rd homes. To bad for the owners:(</blockquote><br />
True, Bay County is gonna kick our butts in the 2009/2010 numbers though.

Just_In_Thyme

Not really that shocking when you consider Walton is mostly a secondary home market.

mikeyboy

Beach Comber

I'm curious. If there were 1086 foreclosures in walton county last year, what is the current status of the foreclosed properties? I count about 100 foeclosures listed in the mls. Have the others been sold? Have they not yet made it to market? Inquiring minds want to know.

I&#039;m curious. If there were 1086 foreclosures in walton county last year, what is the current status of the foreclosed properties? I count about 100 foeclosures listed in the mls. Have the others been sold? Have they not yet made it to market? Inquiring minds want to know.

[quote="mikeyboy, post: 520368"]I'm curious. If there were 1086 foreclosures in walton county last year, what is the current status of the foreclosed properties? I count about 100 foeclosures listed in the mls. Have the others been sold? Have they not yet made it to market? Inquiring minds want to know.[/quote]

It seems a lot have been winterized and locked up.  Sitting empty until the bank can come close to recovering the bad debt.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="mikeyboy">I&#039;m curious. If there were 1086 foreclosures in walton county last year, what is the current status of the foreclosed properties? I count about 100 foeclosures listed in the mls. Have the others been sold? Have they not yet made it to market? Inquiring minds want to know.</blockquote><br />
It seems a lot have been winterized and locked up.  Sitting empty until the bank can come close to recovering the bad debt.

30ashopper

SoWal Insider

[quote="mikeyboy, post: 520368"]I'm curious. If there were 1086 foreclosures in walton county last year, what is the current status of the foreclosed properties? I count about 100 foeclosures listed in the mls. Have the others been sold? Have they not yet made it to market? Inquiring minds want to know.[/quote]
 
I wonder if this is total number of homes "in foreclosure" vs. homes that have ben "foreclosed on"? The numbers for Bay indicate they might the former. Not sure where the stats came from, a search of google news didn't turn anything up.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="mikeyboy">I&#039;m curious. If there were 1086 foreclosures in walton county last year, what is the current status of the foreclosed properties? I count about 100 foeclosures listed in the mls. Have the others been sold? Have they not yet made it to market? Inquiring minds want to know.</blockquote> <br />
I wonder if this is total number of homes &quot;in foreclosure&quot; vs. homes that have ben &quot;foreclosed on&quot;? The numbers for Bay indicate they might the former. Not sure where the stats came from, a search of google news didn&#039;t turn anything up.

florida girl

Beach Fanatic

So this means Walton County is in bigger trouble than anyone has admitted?

ClintClint

Almost without exception, our evolving societal morays and trends toward tolerance have produced good changes. Examples are outlooks on divorce, sexual orientation, pre-marital sex, race, religious beliefs, abortion etc. But, IMHO, unfortunately the stigma that used to be attached to bankruptcy and foreclosure has been minimalized. I realize the effects on credit scores, but the feeling of"shame" the borrower should try to avoid doesn't exist anymore. I don't wish any psychological distress upon anyone or their family, but financial failure has resulted in a blame game instead of an act of taking personal responsibility. I'm not sure that a Sowal property owner that lives in Atlanta and can mail his keys to the bank (jingle mail) and take a hit to his credit score, represents adequate motivation in an era of blame someone else. All property owners suffer from this behavior--its stark effect on values speak volumes. Victimless lifestyles and personal choices deserve tolerance. Unfortunate illness and job loss deserve compassion and support. Overindulgence, greed, and speculation deserve more of a consequence than now exists for the borrower. I would say the lender should share the consequences but we as taxpayers have already picked up that tab. 
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Almost without exception, our evolving societal morays and trends toward tolerance have produced good changes. Examples are outlooks on divorce, sexual orientation, pre-marital sex, race, religious beliefs, abortion etc. But, IMHO, unfortunately the stigma that used to be attached to bankruptcy and foreclosure has been minimalized. I realize the effects on credit scores, but the feeling of&quot;shame&quot; the borrower should try to avoid doesn&#039;t exist anymore. I don&#039;t wish any psychological distress upon anyone or their family, but financial failure has resulted in a blame game instead of an act of taking personal responsibility. I&#039;m not sure that a Sowal property owner that lives in Atlanta and can mail his keys to the bank (jingle mail) and take a hit to his credit score, represents adequate motivation in an era of blame someone else. All property owners suffer from this behavior--its stark effect on values speak volumes. Victimless lifestyles and personal choices deserve tolerance. Unfortunate illness and job loss deserve compassion and support. Overindulgence, greed, and speculation deserve more of a consequence than now exists for the borrower. I would say the lender should share the consequences but we as taxpayers have already picked up that tab. <br />
<div style="text-align: right"><img src="http://sowal.com/bb/images/misc/progress.gif" alt="" />&#8203;</div>

I wonder that the numbers aren't higher than shown as this still seems to be ballooning, not stabilized. The number of abandoned or closed up empty homes is staggering.

I wonder that the numbers aren&#039;t higher than shown as this still seems to be ballooning, not stabilized. The number of abandoned or closed up empty homes is staggering.

Miss Critter

I don't have stats to back this up, but I think many lenders, if not most, are delaying the foreclosure process to avoid absorbing more properties into there REO inventory. Thoughts?

I don&#039;t have stats to back this up, but I think many lenders, if not most, are delaying the foreclosure process to avoid absorbing more properties into there REO inventory. Thoughts?

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert

I would guess that the 45 day holiday moratorium also dragged out foreclosures. 

I don't know that the banks are slow because they want to keep them off the books, I think they are slow because they don't have the staff to properly process all of the foreclosures and short sales.

I would guess that the 45 day holiday moratorium also dragged out foreclosures. <br />
<br />
I don&#039;t know that the banks are slow because they want to keep them off the books, I think they are slow because they don&#039;t have the staff to properly process all of the foreclosures and short sales.

30A Skunkape

Skunky

[quote="sowalgayboi, post: 520441"]It seems a lot have been winterized and locked up.  Sitting empty until the bank can come close to recovering the bad debt.[/QUOTE]
A bunch of those houses are going to seed, too.  Have you seen the blighted neighborhood of abandoned houses on the south side of 98 just east of Buddy's in Inlet Beach?  The scene literally looks like a post Katrina neighborhood.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="sowalgayboi">It seems a lot have been winterized and locked up.  Sitting empty until the bank can come close to recovering the bad debt.</blockquote>A bunch of those houses are going to seed, too.  Have you seen the blighted neighborhood of abandoned houses on the south side of 98 just east of Buddy&#039;s in Inlet Beach?  The scene literally looks like a post Katrina neighborhood.

AAbsolute

Banned

[quote="ClintClint, post: 520616"]Almost without exception, our evolving societal morays and trends toward tolerance have produced good changes. Examples are outlooks on divorce, sexual orientation, pre-marital sex, race, religious beliefs, abortion etc. But, IMHO, unfortunately the stigma that used to be attached to bankruptcy and foreclosure has been minimalized. I realize the effects on credit scores, but the feeling of"shame" the borrower should try to avoid doesn't exist anymore. I don't wish any psychological distress upon anyone or their family, but financial failure has resulted in a blame game instead of an act of taking personal responsibility. I'm not sure that a Sowal property owner that lives in Atlanta and can mail his keys to the bank (jingle mail) and take a hit to his credit score, represents adequate motivation in an era of blame someone else. All property owners suffer from this behavior--its stark effect on values speak volumes. Victimless lifestyles and personal choices deserve tolerance. Unfortunate illness and job loss deserve compassion and support. Overindulgence, greed, and speculation deserve more of a consequence than now exists for the borrower. I would say the lender should share the consequences but we as taxpayers have already picked up that tab. 

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[/quote]
 
Ah ha, an [I]Analyst[/I] and a [I]Therapist[/I].  The world's first [I]Analrapist.  :rolling:[/I]

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="ClintClint">Almost without exception, our evolving societal morays and trends toward tolerance have produced good changes. Examples are outlooks on divorce, sexual orientation, pre-marital sex, race, religious beliefs, abortion etc. But, IMHO, unfortunately the stigma that used to be attached to bankruptcy and foreclosure has been minimalized. I realize the effects on credit scores, but the feeling of&quot;shame&quot; the borrower should try to avoid doesn&#039;t exist anymore. I don&#039;t wish any psychological distress upon anyone or their family, but financial failure has resulted in a blame game instead of an act of taking personal responsibility. I&#039;m not sure that a Sowal property owner that lives in Atlanta and can mail his keys to the bank (jingle mail) and take a hit to his credit score, represents adequate motivation in an era of blame someone else. All property owners suffer from this behavior--its stark effect on values speak volumes. Victimless lifestyles and personal choices deserve tolerance. Unfortunate illness and job loss deserve compassion and support. Overindulgence, greed, and speculation deserve more of a consequence than now exists for the borrower. I would say the lender should share the consequences but we as taxpayers have already picked up that tab. <br />
<br />
<div style="text-align: right"><img src="http://sowal.com/bb/images/misc/progress.gif" alt="" />&#8203;</div></blockquote> <br />
Ah ha, an <i>Analyst</i> and a <i>Therapist</i>.  The world&#039;s first <i>Analrapist.  :rolling:</i>

[quote="AAbsolute, post: 521260"]Ah ha, an [I]Analyst[/I] and a [I]Therapist[/I]. The world's first [I]Analrapist. :rolling:[/I][/quote]
 
OOOOOH, that's gonna leave a stain.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="AAbsolute">Ah ha, an <i>Analyst</i> and a <i>Therapist</i>. The world&#039;s first <i>Analrapist. :rolling:</i></blockquote> <br />
OOOOOH, that&#039;s gonna leave a stain.

traderx

[quote="ClintClint, post: 521283"]OOOOOH, that's gonna leave a stain.[/quote]
 
Or a strain.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="ClintClint">OOOOOH, that&#039;s gonna leave a stain.</blockquote> <br />
Or a strain.

[quote="ClintClint, post: 521283"]OOOOOH, that's gonna leave a stain.[/quote]
 
I confess, I'm a complete sucker for anything from Arrested Development.:blush:

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="ClintClint">OOOOOH, that&#039;s gonna leave a stain.</blockquote> <br />
I confess, I&#039;m a complete sucker for anything from Arrested Development.:blush:

[quote="ClintClint, post: 520616"]Almost without exception, our evolving societal morays and trends toward tolerance have produced good changes. Examples are outlooks on divorce, sexual orientation, pre-marital sex, race, religious beliefs, abortion etc. But, IMHO, unfortunately the stigma that used to be attached to bankruptcy and foreclosure has been minimalized. I realize the effects on credit scores, but the feeling of"shame" the borrower should try to avoid doesn't exist anymore. I don't wish any psychological distress upon anyone or their family, but financial failure has resulted in a blame game instead of an act of taking personal responsibility. I'm not sure that a Sowal property owner that lives in Atlanta and can mail his keys to the bank (jingle mail) and take a hit to his credit score, represents adequate motivation in an era of blame someone else. All property owners suffer from this behavior--its stark effect on values speak volumes. Victimless lifestyles and personal choices deserve tolerance. Unfortunate illness and job loss deserve compassion and support. Overindulgence, greed, and speculation deserve more of a consequence than now exists for the borrower. I would say the lender should share the consequences but we as taxpayers have already picked up that tab. 
[RIGHT][IMG]http://sowal.com/bb/images/misc/progress.gif[/IMG][/RIGHT][/QUOTE]punish the borrower, but recapitalize the lender?

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="ClintClint">Almost without exception, our evolving societal morays and trends toward tolerance have produced good changes. Examples are outlooks on divorce, sexual orientation, pre-marital sex, race, religious beliefs, abortion etc. But, IMHO, unfortunately the stigma that used to be attached to bankruptcy and foreclosure has been minimalized. I realize the effects on credit scores, but the feeling of&quot;shame&quot; the borrower should try to avoid doesn&#039;t exist anymore. I don&#039;t wish any psychological distress upon anyone or their family, but financial failure has resulted in a blame game instead of an act of taking personal responsibility. I&#039;m not sure that a Sowal property owner that lives in Atlanta and can mail his keys to the bank (jingle mail) and take a hit to his credit score, represents adequate motivation in an era of blame someone else. All property owners suffer from this behavior--its stark effect on values speak volumes. Victimless lifestyles and personal choices deserve tolerance. Unfortunate illness and job loss deserve compassion and support. Overindulgence, greed, and speculation deserve more of a consequence than now exists for the borrower. I would say the lender should share the consequences but we as taxpayers have already picked up that tab. <br />
<div style="text-align: right"><img src="http://sowal.com/bb/images/misc/progress.gif" alt="" />&#8203;</div></blockquote>punish the borrower, but recapitalize the lender?

[quote="Bob, post: 522106"]punish the borrower, but recapitalize the lender?[/quote]
 
I absolutely disagree with letting the lender off the hook, but unfortunately the decision has already been made to pass it off to the taxpayers.

<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="Bob">punish the borrower, but recapitalize the lender?</blockquote> <br />
I absolutely disagree with letting the lender off the hook, but unfortunately the decision has already been made to pass it off to the taxpayers.

i believe they are passing losses off to anyone willing to buy our debt and stupid enough to hang on to common stock....the future looks interesting...there's a good chance the word "default" will be morphed into pc doublespeak in the coming years, as our crushing debt will be selectively paid back under the juicy rationalization that only those aligned with uncle sam are worthy of repayment.  same stupidity with entitlements...you will be "worthy" of payments if you have small net worth.

i believe they are passing losses off to anyone willing to buy our debt and stupid enough to hang on to common stock....the future looks interesting...there&#039;s a good chance the word &quot;default&quot; will be morphed into pc doublespeak in the coming years, as our crushing debt will be selectively paid back under the juicy rationalization that only those aligned with uncle sam are worthy of repayment.  same stupidity with entitlements...you will be &quot;worthy&quot; of payments if you have small net worth.

In foreclosures.

[QUOTE]The most dramatic increase in foreclosures came in Walton County, Santa Rosa Beach/Miramar, where the totals jumped from 263 to 1,086...a whopping 313% increase.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/37687504.html[/url]

In foreclosures.<br />
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<blockquote class="xfBb-quote" data-name="">The most dramatic increase in foreclosures came in Walton County, Santa Rosa Beach/Miramar, where the totals jumped from 263 to 1,086...a whopping 313% increase.</blockquote><br />
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