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15,441Beach Fanatic
Good god man get grip on reality, and leave the conspiracy theories behind.
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OMG just saw Trump for President Commercial...Please let baseball season be over first
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View attachment 79422It's about your projection.
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If he switched to the blue team, they might actually have a chance to take the office. I don't know why they decided going so far left was a good idea when it's independents and the center that decide elections.The Dem youth vote will turn out in droves for a strong leftist. Think about how Gillum came so close in FL. That's America.
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So you signed up for Obama Care?

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We don’t give health insurance to illegals free. Prove it.
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We don’t give health insurance to illegals free. Prove it.https://www.ppic.org/publication/he...overage-and-care-for-undocumented-immigrants/
Here you go. California does it already. Did you see during the Dems debates, when asked if they would give illegals health care. Everyone of them raised their hand. Sorry our veterans and poor need it.
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https://www.ppic.org/publication/he...overage-and-care-for-undocumented-immigrants/I’m a veteran and I have healthcare. It’s your party that doesn’t want the poor to have heathcare and trump is stealing money from the military to build the wall he told you Mexico would pay for.
Here you go. California does it already. Did you see during the Dems debates, when asked if they would give illegals health care. Everyone of them raised their hand. Sorry our veterans and poor need it.
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So now it looks like prez* Cockwomble fired Ambassador Yovanovich because she was in the way of Rudy and the con’s Ukrainian gas company money making scam. How long before trump demands a corruption investigation?
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I’m a veteran and I have healthcare. It’s your party that doesn’t want the poor to have heathcare and trump is stealing money from the military to build the wall he told you Mexico would pay for.I'm glad you're one of the lucky ones that has had good health care. Let's get more veterans in that same boat. Well just have to agree to disagree on your other comments.
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I'm glad you're one of the lucky ones that has had good health care. Let's get more veterans in that same boat. Well just have to agree to disagree on your other comments.Let’s get healthcare for all Americans.
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Isn’t it strange the only politicians who fear trump are those in his own party?
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Former Trump Organization executive says she expects President Trump will resign - CNN
I don't know if agree on this predicted outcome, but I do think, no matter what anyone says, that Trump will be devastated by an impeachment, even without removal from office. By the same token, if for nothing else other than our posterity, impeachment is a moral imperative, even without removal. I say that acknowledging the possibility of negative consequences such as losing the house and of course Trump's reelection. The man needs an asterisk beside his name in order strike a blow against his fevered ego, and to send a message to our future nation that this man is not a good person, and that our country should strive to elect officials who truly espouse American values.
I don't know if agree on this predicted outcome, but I do think, no matter what anyone says, that Trump will be devastated by an impeachment, even without removal from office. By the same token, if for nothing else other than our posterity, impeachment is a moral imperative, even without removal. I say that acknowledging the possibility of negative consequences such as losing the house and of course Trump's reelection. The man needs an asterisk beside his name in order strike a blow against his fevered ego, and to send a message to our future nation that this man is not a good person, and that our country should strive to elect officials who truly espouse American values.
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Another thing. If Trump is impeached but not removed, that is no way vindication. It in no way means he is "innocent" or "not guilty". Just think about it. Was Bill Clinton vindicated? Did he not lie to a jury? Were there legitimate grounds for impeachment? Of course there were, it's just that there were enough Senators who felt it wasn't serious enough for removal based on the circumstances. Now we have a situation where there are an abundance of reasons for impeachment, and lot of Republican Senators know deep in their heart that removal is the only moral choice. They are going to have to go against their consciences in order to preserve their political careers for a man who would s**t on them at moment's notice for political convenience.
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Do you think Vice President Pence will resign before or after he becomes President? Certainly not looking for a Speaker Pelosi administration but at least we have a chance it would be a short time in office if Congress would start moving forward with the process.
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Damn, just reading where once again the US is going to fck over the Kurds. Shame.
They must have told trump no on his Biden scam.
They must have told trump no on his Biden scam.
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Sorry, you link d
Damn, just reading where once again the US is going to fck over the Kurds. Shame.You would think that they might turn into anti-American terrorists if we keep doing this, huh?
They must have told trump no on his Biden scam.
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Lindsey Graham is calling trump’s claim he defeated ISIS for what it is, a lie. Yes, lying is what trump does.
Edit: Lindsey said it is the “biggest lie” told by this administration.
Edit: Lindsey said it is the “biggest lie” told by this administration.
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Prez* “ I Have A Duty To Investigate Corruption” has been ordered to turn over tax records to NY for their corruption investigation.
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2012 Ivanka Tweet


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"Great and unmatched wisdom."
This could easily be a quote was from a trumper on this site describing their chosen one.
This could easily be a quote was from a trumper on this site describing their chosen one.
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Let’s not forget trump’s National Security Advisor was Michael Flynn a foreign agent for Turkey.
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And now we see....Team Obama started the Ukraine debacle back in 2014. Biden is on his way out.

Then-Vice President Joe Biden upon his arrival for a meeting with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko Kyiv on Jan. 16, 2017. (GENYA SAVILOV/AFP/Getty Images)
US NEWS
Biden, Obama Officials Stood to Gain From Ukraine Influence
Newly released evidence suggests Ukraine played key role in creating Trump–Russia collusion narrative at behest of Obama officials
BY JEFF CARLSON
April 26, 2019 Updated: June 14, 2019
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Ukraine underwent dramatic changes in 2014, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden played a critical role in the Obama administration’s involvement in the revolution that ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.
Following the revolution, Biden would use his influence to help force the creation of the troubled National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU). Notably, during the 2016 election campaign, information leaked from NABU about Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort that helped to create the false narrative that Trump colluded with Russia to win the election.
Biden also would use the threat of withholding $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees to pressure Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to fire the prosecutor general. At the time, the prosecutor had been investigating Burisma, a Ukrainian natural gas giant that had appointed Biden’s son, Hunter, as a board member.
President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, recently said, “Keep your eye on Ukraine.” In his comments to the Washington Examiner, Giuliani highlighted the “plot to create an investigation of President Trump, based on a false charge of conspiracy with the Russians to affect the 2016 elections.”
Obama Administration’s 2014 Involvement
On or shortly before Feb. 4, 2014, Victoria Nuland, the assistant secretary for European and Eurasian affairs in the Obama State Department, had a conversation with the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, which was intercepted and leaked.
In the call, Nuland and Pyatt appeared to be discussing the ouster of Yanukovych and the installation of opposition leader Arseniy Yatsenyuk as prime minister.
Nuland favored opposition leader Yatsenyuk over his main rivals Vitali Klitschko and Oleh Tyahnybok, telling Pyatt: “I think Yats is the guy who’s got the economic experience, the governing experience. He’s the … what he needs is Klitschko and Tyahnybok on the outside.”
Toward the end of the conversation, then-Vice President Biden was discussed as being willing to help cement the changeover in Ukraine:
Geoffrey Pyatt: “We want to try to get somebody with an international personality to come out here and help to midwife this thing. The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych, but we probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place.”
Victoria Nuland: “So, on that piece Geoff, when I wrote the note [Biden’s national security adviser Jake] Sullivan’s come back to me VFR [direct to me], saying you need Biden, and I said probably tomorrow for an atta-boy and to get the deets [details] to stick. So Biden’s willing.”
Nuland and Pyatt met with Ukrainian opposition leaders Klitschko and Yatsenyuk, along with then-President Yanukovych, just days later on Feb. 7, 2014.
Events then moved swiftly. On Feb. 22, 2014, Yanukovych was removed as president of Ukraine and fled to Russia. On Feb. 27, 2014, Yatsenyuk, the candidate favored by Nuland, was installed as prime minister of Ukraine. Klitschko was left out. Notably, Yatsenyuk would later resign in April 2016 amid corruption accusations.
Rest of the article: Biden, Obama Officials Stood to Gain From Ukraine Influence

Then-Vice President Joe Biden upon his arrival for a meeting with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko Kyiv on Jan. 16, 2017. (GENYA SAVILOV/AFP/Getty Images)
US NEWS
Biden, Obama Officials Stood to Gain From Ukraine Influence
Newly released evidence suggests Ukraine played key role in creating Trump–Russia collusion narrative at behest of Obama officials
BY JEFF CARLSON
April 26, 2019 Updated: June 14, 2019
Share
Ukraine underwent dramatic changes in 2014, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden played a critical role in the Obama administration’s involvement in the revolution that ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.
Following the revolution, Biden would use his influence to help force the creation of the troubled National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU). Notably, during the 2016 election campaign, information leaked from NABU about Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort that helped to create the false narrative that Trump colluded with Russia to win the election.
Biden also would use the threat of withholding $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees to pressure Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to fire the prosecutor general. At the time, the prosecutor had been investigating Burisma, a Ukrainian natural gas giant that had appointed Biden’s son, Hunter, as a board member.
President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, recently said, “Keep your eye on Ukraine.” In his comments to the Washington Examiner, Giuliani highlighted the “plot to create an investigation of President Trump, based on a false charge of conspiracy with the Russians to affect the 2016 elections.”
Obama Administration’s 2014 Involvement
On or shortly before Feb. 4, 2014, Victoria Nuland, the assistant secretary for European and Eurasian affairs in the Obama State Department, had a conversation with the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, which was intercepted and leaked.
In the call, Nuland and Pyatt appeared to be discussing the ouster of Yanukovych and the installation of opposition leader Arseniy Yatsenyuk as prime minister.
Nuland favored opposition leader Yatsenyuk over his main rivals Vitali Klitschko and Oleh Tyahnybok, telling Pyatt: “I think Yats is the guy who’s got the economic experience, the governing experience. He’s the … what he needs is Klitschko and Tyahnybok on the outside.”
Toward the end of the conversation, then-Vice President Biden was discussed as being willing to help cement the changeover in Ukraine:
Geoffrey Pyatt: “We want to try to get somebody with an international personality to come out here and help to midwife this thing. The other issue is some kind of outreach to Yanukovych, but we probably regroup on that tomorrow as we see how things start to fall into place.”
Victoria Nuland: “So, on that piece Geoff, when I wrote the note [Biden’s national security adviser Jake] Sullivan’s come back to me VFR [direct to me], saying you need Biden, and I said probably tomorrow for an atta-boy and to get the deets [details] to stick. So Biden’s willing.”
Nuland and Pyatt met with Ukrainian opposition leaders Klitschko and Yatsenyuk, along with then-President Yanukovych, just days later on Feb. 7, 2014.
Events then moved swiftly. On Feb. 22, 2014, Yanukovych was removed as president of Ukraine and fled to Russia. On Feb. 27, 2014, Yatsenyuk, the candidate favored by Nuland, was installed as prime minister of Ukraine. Klitschko was left out. Notably, Yatsenyuk would later resign in April 2016 amid corruption accusations.
Rest of the article: Biden, Obama Officials Stood to Gain From Ukraine Influence
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Another thing. If Trump is impeached but not removed, that is no way vindication. It in no way means he is "innocent" or "not guilty". Just think about it. Was Bill Clinton vindicated? Did he not lie to a jury? Were there legitimate grounds for impeachment? Of course there were, it's just that there were enough Senators who felt it wasn't serious enough for removal based on the circumstances. Now we have a situation where there are an abundance of reasons for impeachment, and lot of Republican Senators know deep in their heart that removal is the only moral choice. They are going to have to go against their consciences in order to preserve their political careers for a man who would s**t on them at moment's notice for political convenience.
Until there is a vote in the House, this is just Democrat theater to keep their base engaged, and MSM ratings games. Let's see if Nancy arranges the vote.
Good to know who we can ask when we need to know what Republican Senators "know deep in their hearts".
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