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15,441Beach Fanatic
Hey, Leader of the Lakeview Poppas. Now that we are certified "Whistleblower Friendly" don't ya think that Edward Snowden should be able to come home as a free man?
SoWal Insider
Hey, Leader of the Lakeview Poppas. Now that we are certified "Whistleblower Friendly" don't ya think that Edward Snowden should be able to come home as a free man?I could care less. Great distraction from Trump’s treason.
SoWal Insider
Hey, Leader of the Lakeview Poppas. Now that we are certified "Whistleblower Friendly" don't ya think that Edward Snowden should be able to come home as a free man?Fine with me, but I have no say. It’s not like Edward Snowden broke any laws.
Beach Fanatic
Admit it you graduated with a degree in whining from Trump University.
Maybe I'm just trying to get banned.
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And the sowal.com hypocrisy rolls on. "Sowal Admin" It's OK for one of your Marxist comrades to post Hitler memes all the way back in 2016 and it does not get deleted, but I post a meme stating a direct quote from Hitler and it's deleted within minutes.
Conflict with the sowal.com narrative is not allowed.
My Hitler meme is more appropriate now then ever. I'd say I was downright prescient. I have no idea what meme you posted, so I can't comment. All I know is that if one of my posts gets deleted, I don't whine and cry about it like your spoiled child fascist president that you worship from the bottom of your heart.
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Hey, Leader of the Lakeview Poppas. Now that we are certified "Whistleblower Friendly" don't ya think that Edward Snowden should be able to come home as a free man?
Nope, apparently he leaked classified information deliberately and willfully to the public, including adversaries without going through the proper channels. My opinion of him is that his motives were purely self-serving. Reminds me of our president. He can come home at any time, be put on trial, and given the opportunity to prove me wrong.
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I find it interesting that Turkey was/is buying anti air missiles from Russia that seemed to upset everyone but the President. Now Russia, who is allied with Syria, is sending troops between the Syrians and Turks. The Kurds, who were our allies against ISIS and the Syrians, are now allied with the Syrians. When this shakes out, I suspect we will see 2 more enemy's out this.
SoWal Insider
Hey, Leader of the Lakeview Poppas. Now that we are certified "Whistleblower Friendly" don't ya think that Edward Snowden should be able to come home as a free man?Give us your answer to this question.
SoWal Insider
Maybe I'm just trying to get banned.Don’t go there, no one wants you banned.
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Then why have you allowed a meme of Hitler saying "Sieg Heil" to stand for three years when its from a like minded member????
It's good to know that KKK content is allowed though.
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Then why have you allowed a meme of Hitler saying "Sieg Heil" to stand for three years when its from a like minded member????Try reading. Did you report?
Beach Fanatic
Give us your answer to this question.
A few quotes from Snowden:
"I would rather be without a state than without a voice"
"No system of mass surveillance has existed in any society that at this point has not been abused".
"Nothing is deleted".
I think every American citizen who treasures privacy and freedom, owes him greatly. What he has done is 100% heroic.
Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange. Susan Lindauer.
SoWal Insider
A few quotes from Snowden:Chelsea Manning, and Snowden were trying to do good for the American people. They should have gone through proper channels like these current whistleblowers did. That is why the House Intelligence Committee is straining to find enough corroborating evidence that it does not become necessary to make these people testify in person. Keeping this whistleblower procedure intact is more important than almost anything the government does. When the Administration complete stonewalls all documents and all relevant people from testifying, that's when truth breaks down. That is what is happening now.
"I would rather be without a state than without a voice"
"No system of mass surveillance has existed in any society that at this point has not been abused".
"Nothing is deleted".
I think every American citizen who treasures privacy and freedom, owes him greatly. What he has done is 100% heroic.
Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange. Susan Lindauer.
Julian Assange's motives seem a lot more suspect. Why leak the contents of just one party's emails? Why use the Russians as your hackers?
SoWal Insider
A few quotes from Snowden:What about that girl (the one with the odd name) who leaked some earlier vital documents, pertaining to Trump's corruption? She is doing 5 years in Federal prison right now.
"I would rather be without a state than without a voice"
"No system of mass surveillance has existed in any society that at this point has not been abused".
"Nothing is deleted".
I think every American citizen who treasures privacy and freedom, owes him greatly. What he has done is 100% heroic.
Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange. Susan Lindauer.
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My Two cents is that seems a little harsh since important current news stories may contain photos of demonstrators with such graphics as might old historical photos relevant to current topics.
Beach FanaticAuthor
A few quotes from Snowden:
"I would rather be without a state than without a voice"
"No system of mass surveillance has existed in any society that at this point has not been abused".
"Nothing is deleted".
I think every American citizen who treasures privacy and freedom, owes him greatly. What he has done is 100% heroic.
Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange. Susan Lindauer.
Did you ever think that Snowden might be a self-serving egotist/narcissist engaged in self-promotion? It looks to me like he is just trying to garner sympathy. I doubt that he gave much thought to the consequences of his actions. Let him stand trial and prove me wrong.
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What about that girl (the one with the odd name) who leaked some earlier vital documents, pertaining to Trump's corruption? She is doing 5 years in Federal prison right now.
Reality Winner was her name. All she did was leak a classified document about Russian interference in the 2016 election. Snowden likely leaked documents that put peoples lives at risk.
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Did you ever think that Snowden might be a self-serving egotist/narcissist engaged in self-promotion? It looks to me like he is just trying to garner sympathy. I doubt that he gave much thought to the consequences of his actions. Let him stand trial and prove me wrong.
No. Another quote: "I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions". He released his files on September 17th. Know what day that is? Constitution Day. Snowden would never get a fair trial; you can bet your last cent on that.
You are way off thinking he wants to "garner sympathy". He saw how our own government had ignored the Constitution (4th Amendment), abandoned due process, and was spying on it's own citizens.
Senator Frank Church warned us back in 1975 that when the spy apparatus was turned inward toward Americans, we would not be a free society any longer.
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Reality Winner was her name. All she did was leak a classified document about Russian interference in the 2016 election. Snowden likely leaked documents that put peoples lives at risk.
Can you post info on what she's doing five years for?
Beach FanaticAuthor
No. Another quote: "I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions". He released his files on September 17th. Know what day that is? Constitution Day. Snowden would never get a fair trial; you can bet your last cent on that.And those aren't the words of a self-annointed martyr? Kay...
You are way off thinking he wants to "garner sympathy". He saw how our own government had ignored the Constitution (4th Amendment), abandoned due process, and was spying on it's own citizens.
Senator Frank Church warned us back in 1975 that when the spy apparatus was turned inward toward Americans, we would not be a free society any longer.
Beach FanaticAuthor
Can you post info on what she's doing five years for?
All I've seen is that it was for a single count of leaking classified information. I assume it's the Russian election tampering reports. Apparently they were top secret. The case was never brought to trial as she plead guilty. Here's a link:
Top-Secret NSA Report Details Russian Hacking Effort Days Before 2016 Election
SoWal Insider
A few quotes from Snowden:So are you saying whistleblowers are heroes or just those who do it outside of the proper protocols?
"I would rather be without a state than without a voice"
"No system of mass surveillance has existed in any society that at this point has not been abused".
"Nothing is deleted".
I think every American citizen who treasures privacy and freedom, owes him greatly. What he has done is 100% heroic.
Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange. Susan Lindauer.
SoWal Insider
No. Another quote: "I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions". He released his files on September 17th. Know what day that is? Constitution Day. Snowden would never get a fair trial; you can bet your last cent on that.Do you believe Winner and Manning are heroes and do you believe they received fair trials?
You are way off thinking he wants to "garner sympathy". He saw how our own government had ignored the Constitution (4th Amendment), abandoned due process, and was spying on it's own citizens.
Senator Frank Church warned us back in 1975 that when the spy apparatus was turned inward toward Americans, we would not be a free society any longer.
Beach FanaticAuthor
As far as I can tell, Winner didn't reveal information that could put people's lives at risk. The same can't be said of Manning or Snowden.
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