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iqueequeg avatar
iqueequegBeach Lover
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I've cut and pasted below the email exchange I've been having with a potential renter-I'm beginning to get suspicious:

Carlos Buff has sent the following inquiry about property number 167647 in WaterSound.

Rent WaterSound Florida House 167647 for Golf, Fishing Vacations

To reply to this inquiry, simply call the phone number contained in the inquiry or reply to this e-mail.

Inquiry Summary Name: Carlos Buff
Email: (deleted)
Phone #: (deleted)
Arrival date: Feb 14 2009
Departure date: Feb 21 2009
Total # in party: 2 (including children)
No of children: 0
Further info:
Hi, Want to know if the apartment would be available for the schdule date choosen? and also the cost for staying over for exactly on week?


Carlos,

Thanks for your inquiry regarding our house in WaterSound. You mentioned "apartment" in your inquiry and I just wanted to make sure you understood that this is a house, not an apartment.

To answer your question, our Winter special rate for the week of February 14th departing February 21st is $1120. We charge a $250 cleaning fee, but I see you only have 2 people in your party. If you only plan on using 1 bedroom, we can reduce the cleaning fee to $150. If that was the case, the total would be $1120 + $150 cleaning fee + 11% tax = $1509.70. We do accept credit cards.

There are additional photos plus virtual tours of our house at: www.emeraldcoasttours.com/165gulfbridgelane

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Jack

From: Carlos Buffett
To: Jack McCallion
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 2:29:02 AM
Subject: Re: HomeAway inquiry about WaterSound 167647 from Carlos Buff

Many thanks for your cordial response, and I am glad to hear you about availability covering the period of our stay in your apartment.
I would be making the full payment of our stay ahead to you through a Credit card Authorization. This is a secured & fast for me to make Payment. I would need the following details from you for the transfer to be done soonest..
1.Credit card Account Number that is (16 digits)
2.Bank zip-code
3.Your credit Limit
4.Your Daily Re drawer Limit
5. Phone number
5.Bank Name
Thank you for your time.
Kind Regards
Carlos Buffett.




Carlos,

That's great! I'm sure you'll have a lovely stay in our home. Before you commit, there are a couple of new developments with the house that I thought you should be aware of.

During the recent cold snap (I'm sure you heard of it) the water pipes that were routed on top of the roof (a bad design choice, in retrospect) burst, flooding both the upper and lower floors of the house. All the furniture, floors, carpets, and electronics in the house were destroyed. In addition, the contractor working on repairs was forced to take off almost the entirety of the roof, leaving the house basically an open shell.

But the good news! All the community amenities are still available to you (pool, bikes, putting course) and the beautiful white sand beach (actually some peat is showing but that's another story) is still just a short walk away. And the lack of a roof will allow you to enjoy the warm(ish) Florida sun through the entirety of your stay!

If this is still agreeable to you let me know. In terms of the bank account information you requested, we actually have accounts with more than one bank. Would you need all of the account numbers, or just one? We also have a retirement account, but you probably don't need that info.

Warm Personal Regards,

Jack

From: Carlos Buffett
To: Jack McCallion
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:07:55 PM
Subject: Re: HomeAway inquiry about WaterSound 167647 from Carlos Buff

Thanks for the update, I would prefer a Wellsfargo Bank account, BOA or Citibank. Those are the 3 bank i work with and i can arrange the transfer to you soonest. I am making the full payment once. So email me the requested details needed by my Bank to make the Transfer. I would gladly be waiting for your response.

Thanks

Carlos Buffett.



Carlos,

I?m glad it?s no problem! I was concerned that the damage to the house might deter renters, but I can see now I was worried for no reason.

In terms of the bank account number, well, it?s rather confusing. There are many numbers on the checks, but the account number appears to be 832. The funny thing is, the account number is different on every check! For example, the account number on the next check is 833. Crazy! It?s these kinds of things that are making the banks have so much trouble right now.

You asked about a ?routing number?. I don?t think this bank has one, it?s a local bank and everyone knows where it is.

My credit card number is 04/2009. You asked about an expiration date, and I know exactly what you mean by that. When I?m buying milk, I always make sure to buy the freshest I can. A small hint, Carlos: Sometimes you have to reach behind and get the milk in the back. But in terms of the credit card, I don?t think it has an expiration date?it?s made of plastic.

Carlos, I just noticed your arrival date is February 14th-Valentine?s Day! I?ve taken the liberty of arranging for a bottle of Champagne and a dozen roses to be waiting for you and (may I presume) your lady friend when you arrive, to compensate you for the inconvenience.

Speaking of inconvenience, I?ve got some great news. The contractor says he?ll be able to put a blue plastic tarp over the former bedroom area, in case it rains.

Let me know what I should do next.

Your Friend,
Jack



I haven't yet received Carlos' response, I'll post it when/if I do.

Replies

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TooFarTampa avatar
TooFarTampaSoWal Insider
#2
:floor: Is this for real?

If so, delete the names, or change them to protect even the non-innocent. :wave:
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
#3
lol! This would be a good one to send to the Walton Sun.
TooFarTampa avatar
TooFarTampaSoWal Insider
#4
Did he change his name from Carlos Buff to Carlos Buffett, or was that you? :lol:
Beach Runner avatar
Beach Runnerbeats on hood
#6
Is this a scam? :floor:
ShallowsNole avatar
ShallowsNoleBeach Fanatic
#7
Yet another reason I hate the inquiry-by-e-mail feature...;-)
jodiFL avatar
jodiFLBeach Fanatic
#8
I would so print and forward to the FBI, local authorities, and every other agency I could think of. While we are sitting here laughing about this some other person might actually do it. These folks will never get caught unless someone takes the time to turn them in.
EDIT: I am sure someone on here can tell you how to find the IP address that it was sent from and that info will be of great help to those trying to track the scammer.

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NightAngel avatar
NightAngelBeach Fanatic
#9
DO NOT give this person your info. I get one of these types of inquiries every time I put something on craigslist, it is a scam to try to get your banking info.
Rita avatar
Ritamargarita brocolia
#10
:rofl:..He doesn't even appear to have read your reply about the house! Or doesn't read English much beyond account #s!


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Miss Critter avatar
Miss CritterBeach Fanatic
#11
And we were worried rentals would be down this year. 😀
kathydwells avatar
kathydwellsDarlene is my middle name, not my nickname
#12
OMC!!!! :floor:
Sailnmike avatar
SailnmikeBeach Comber
#13
YES It is a scam! No Doubt, It's a common ploy to get any Info, but don't bother doing anything about it, Other than Deleting it. they have broken no law and you can't trace thier ISP if they did. Look at the detail of info they want, NEVER GIVE OUT ANY INFO OUT LIKE THIS !!!

Quick If is to tell them to call you.
30ARules avatar
30ARulesBeach Fanatic
#14
Beautiful home

Love the house! WaterSound is a wonderful place even if you don't have a roof:cool:
Will B avatar
Will BModerator
#15
As soon as he asked for your info, you should have told him "no vacancies!"
sunspotbaby avatar
sunspotbabySoWal Insider
#16
clever response, Jack! Good for you! :floor:
Matt J avatar
Matt JSWGB
#17
That was too funny, I'd keep that and get ready to add to your collection. These guys are all over the place. My favorite is still the bank made a mistake and sent to much money scam.
biddieann avatar
biddieannBeach Lover
#18
That is so freaking crazy but not surprising. Go ahead and report it, wouldn't hurt. There are so many creepy things like this happening.
We had someone fraudulently buy a $3000 saxaphone in Nashville with our credit card (where we have never been) and had it shipped to Compton, California....overnight....also on our credit card. The instrument store had to take the hit, the police said it was really no use even trying to catch the person responsible.
Don't ever let waitstaff whom you don't know personally take your credit away from your site. You just can't take chances anymore.
Matt J avatar
Matt JSWGB
#19
That is so freaking crazy but not surprising. Go ahead and report it, wouldn't hurt. There are so many creepy things like this happening.
We had someone fraudulently buy a $3000 saxaphone in Nashville with our credit card (where we have never been) and had it shipped to Compton, California....overnight....also on our credit card. The instrument store had to take the hit, the police said it was really no use even trying to catch the person responsible.
Don't ever let waitstaff whom you don't know personally take your credit away from your site. You just can't take chances anymore.

Waitstaff grabbing your account number is probably the least of your worries. While I have heard of it happening I have yet to witness it, be victim of it, or have anyone else I know fall victim of it. The worst I ever saw was a girl who was bumping tips (physically changing the amount) on the receipts. She was arrested in the restaurant and hauled out in handcuffs. She got 5 years in the state pen for credit card fraud.

The point is that more than likely this was someone dumpster diving your credit card statement or even just a random hit. Believe it or not there aren't that many credit card numbers out there and if you know enough faking one and getting lucky is about 1 in 5.

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