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Blackballing Renters

arobertsBeach Comber
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Has anyone given thought to creating a list of renters that no one would ever want in their property. We have about one renter per year who seems to want to trash our property with no remorse. Usually it's not destructive just extra cleaning and hassle. Our place is in Watercolor and usually in high demand so we can choose our renters.

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LowProfiling avatar
LowProfilingBeach Lover
#2
Great idea however I would ?think? you could get into some liability issues for slandering someone. You would have to make sure you have your facts 100%. Or?.you could maybe create it under the guise it?s for ?entertainment purposes only? I assume that is how the tabloids do it. Good question for a lawyer.
There is a lot of information on the internet these days that will allow one to do a minor background check on someone. For instance?.whatever state they reside do a search to find out if the court records are online. Not going to specifically say good guy-bad guy, but if they have been sued, arrested for disorderly conduct a bunch of times you can generally paint a picture of them. States vary as to what is online. FL is a very public record friendly state for instance, whereas Georgia has next to nothing. Also as silly and simply as this may seem, see if they have a Facebook. If they have a bunch of pics on there of a weekly beer can stacking contest, or pics of their own home which looks trashed well?.. It?s amazing the personal information people put on Facebook.
Sheila avatar
SheilaSoWal Insider
#3
Great idea however I would ?think? you could get into some liability issues for slandering someone. You would have to make sure you have your facts 100%. Or?.you could maybe create it under the guise it?s for ?entertainment purposes only? I assume that is how the tabloids do it. Good question for a lawyer.
There is a lot of information on the internet these days that will allow one to do a minor background check on someone. For instance?.whatever state they reside do a search to find out if the court records are online. Not going to specifically say good guy-bad guy, but if they have been sued, arrested for disorderly conduct a bunch of times you can generally paint a picture of them. States vary as to what is online. FL is a very public record friendly state for instance, whereas Georgia has next to nothing. Also as silly and simply as this may seem, see if they have a Facebook. If they have a bunch of pics on there of a weekly beer can stacking contest, or pics of their own home which looks trashed well?.. It?s amazing the personal information people put on Facebook.

I might be wrong but I think it's as simple as just making sure your property is "not available" if the offending parties try and rent again. I doubt there would be any kind of list or website that would have names or details or specifics of incidents involved. I have a list, but it's just for my benefit, not for publication.
seagrovegirl avatar
seagrovegirlBeach Fanatic
#4
During my days as a property manager, I had guests that were not welcome to come back to our properties for well documented reasons. I simply had an index card box with names. Really didn't need the box, we seemed to remember the names if they called again to make a reservation.

Things to do to get on the LIST: not pay your rent or cancel payment, unruly and have disturbed other vacationers repeatedly, have a pet, obviously smoked in the property, rent in your name for your kids and their 50 friends, make repeated complaints because a minority is swimming in the pool, try to sue because you contracted AIDs swimming in the pool, stealing furniture, check out a day late prohiting the next renter from a place to stay, accidentally shot a firearm in the unit and leave it when you check out, then demand we mail it to you..............it seems I can go on and on.

I did not share this info with other agencies because of liability issues.
TNJed avatar
TNJedBeach Fanatic
#5
Great idea however I would ?think? you could get into some liability issues for slandering someone. You would have to make sure you have your facts 100%. Or?.you could maybe create it under the guise it?s for ?entertainment purposes only? I assume that is how the tabloids do it. Good question for a lawyer.
There is a lot of information on the internet these days that will allow one to do a minor background check on someone. For instance?.whatever state they reside do a search to find out if the court records are online. Not going to specifically say good guy-bad guy, but if they have been sued, arrested for disorderly conduct a bunch of times you can generally paint a picture of them. States vary as to what is online. FL is a very public record friendly state for instance, whereas Georgia has next to nothing. Also as silly and simply as this may seem, see if they have a Facebook. If they have a bunch of pics on there of a weekly beer can stacking contest, or pics of their own home which looks trashed well?.. It?s amazing the personal information people put on Facebook.


It's not libelous if it's true. But truth can be subjective so you're correct in saying it would be important to give just the facts with zero feelings.

Isn't there a website for women to post bad experiences with ex's? I would think a rental owner with pics and facts should be safe if a website as subjective as a rate-a-date can exist. :idontno:
AndrewG avatar
AndrewGBeach Fanatic
#6
Aids from the pool? That's a new one. I feel lucky to have not made any on your list.
Beach Runner avatar
Beach Runnerbeats on hood
#7
When we find that our home has been disrespected, I just tell the rental management company not to rent to those people any more. So we do blackball people.

We pay extra to have the same people managing the cleaning of our home after each rental, so they typically notice when something is damaged that wasn't damaged prior to that renter's arrival.
rdelong43065 avatar
rdelong43065Beach Fanatic
#8
Aids from the pool? That's a new one. I feel lucky to have not made any on your list.

I was thinking the same thing about the pool. I always thought you only got it from a toilet seat.
seagrovegirl avatar
seagrovegirlBeach Fanatic
#9
I was thinking the same thing about the pool. I always thought you only got it from a toilet seat.

The AIDs incident was back in the late 80's during the AIDs hysteria. The guest hired an attorney and we were notified of a pending lawsuit. Our response was to notify our insurance company, then not respond to the letter from the guest. Nothing further came of it. Those that are in property mamagement can tell some crazy stories, and this is just the tip of the iceburg.
scooterbug44 avatar
scooterbug44SoWal Expert
#10
I was under the impression that all of the local rental companies already had a "do not rent list" they had compiled over the years. ;-)
Bobby J avatar
Bobby JBeach Fanatic
#11
What does black balling really mean?
scooterbug44 avatar
scooterbug44SoWal Expert
#12
What does black balling really mean?
It's an old voting tradition in clubs etc. where 1 or 2 "no" votes means you don't get in.

You voted for membership etc. anonymously with a white ball or abstained. But if you really had an issue you used a black ball - which meant hells no!
melscuba avatar
melscubaBeach Fanatic
#13
I was under the impression that all of the local rental companies already had a "do not rent list" they had compiled over the years. ;-)

I think the question is "Is there anyway to share that list with each other so another rental agency or homeowner doesn't end up with the person several other agencies have already black balled?".

Aids from the swimming pool, firearms, smoking??? You guys are freaking me out.😱
arobertsBeach ComberAuthor
#14
I was really thinking of a way to communicate to others...warn them and at the same time have some vengeance. I could just post pics. It amazes me how disrespectful people can be of others property. If it wasn't for people like this I could furnish and have much nicer items in the place. Ive

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