Coastal Erosion solutions: Seawalls, Geo-tubes, Beach Scraping and Beach Nourishment. What is the answer?
Basically, when the ocean rises due to a hurricane there are three powerful forces at work: wind, rising tide and ocean swells from a storm. The water that is moved by those forces moves in three directions. The tide brings the water up, the storm moves the wave action in and the wind pushes the water/waves in the direction of the wind.
Most of us who have experienced a hurricane know that when a storm approaches and we are on the east side of that storm we get winds from the northeast, then east, then southeast, then south and on around to the west and so on. The inverse would be true if we were on the west side of the storm. The key point is that for a large portion of the time the tide is abnormally high, the swells are abnormally big and the east or west current is scouring the beaches parallel to the beach.
The beach sand is a porous movable material that is completely vulnerable to these forces. Solid structures are also vulnerable to these forces but, more importantly the sand next to any solid structure will be scoured away much more rapidly than if there was no solid structure near it.
Let's dispense with scraping first. It makes the beach nicer to look at but that's it. It is newly pushed sand that has no level of impaction so it washes away in minutes. Placing sand back on the cliff/dunes and planting sea oats provides a favorable cosmetic solution.
Seawalls and geo-tubes are solid, heavy structures. Any porous sand next to these structures gets scoured away very rapidly making the situation worse near them. If you have a house next to a seawall, your backyard will go faster as the east riptide and oncoming waves collide with the seawall. The same is true with the beach in front of the seawall. The impact of the water hitting it and pushing sideways with the tide completely eliminates the beach in front of it. All you need to do is look at the wall in Galveston Texas; there used to be a beach there, now you just jump off the wall into the water; no beach. A geo tube is heavy and more solid than the sand. Any thing near these things will have sand scouring next to them too. Also when the water gets behind a seawall it washes away the sand behind it with the same impunity. Some of you might have seen the photo of the breached seawall on Dog Island I posted after Hurricane Dennis.
The largest seawall in the county is being installed just east of Seaside and it runs from the Wheel House/Seagrove villas and ends at the 30-A/395 intersection and could go further as adjacent homeowners buy on. It is roughly 20 feet high and runs 4 blocks long. Adjacent homeowners will be affected and the beach behind that wall will disappear if we get a few more storms to start the scouring activity. The prevailing winds here are from the east and the river of sand that runs along our beach could soon be interrupted and affected by this seawall.
The only solution to our erosion problem is to focus on getting our beaches nourished by pumping sand back on to the beaches. All of Walton County is being surveyed and the wheels are in motion. All these seawalls will do is destroy adjacent property and eliminate the beaches behind them. Geo-tubes will have a similar effect as the water washes over and around them.
Rosemary Beach has investigated thoroughly all options including geotubes and has decided to push for the sand dredging/beach nourishment option. There will be no geotubes or seawalls in Rosemary Beach. They did decide to do some cosmetic work (scraping) on the dunes/cliffs and finish with sea oat plantings. The town manager, James Bagby gave a very informed talk at the Rosemary Beach Homeowners meeting on where the county and federal agency's are in the beach nourishment process and it looks like it could happen countywide if approved. Jim said the pumping would take 3 days to do Rosemary Beach and would raise the beach 6 to 8 feet and go out 100 to 150 feet out.
The nourishment effort/process has taken its course in the west end of the county and they will soon begin pumping sand there. They are beginning the process for our part of the county from Inlet beach down and there will soon be a stage for public input. The whole beachfront of the county is being surveyed for this purpose and sand core samples are being taken in the gulf for sources of white sand. Funding will be an issue but if approved the beaches will be automatically nourished by the federal government after major storms. Panama City beach has been doing this for years already.
In Okaloosa County 5 beachfront homeowners disputed the nourishment project delaying it in lawsuits for 2 years. They were concerned that the thin strip of public access from the high tide waterline to the water would be enlarged if the beach was widened and people would set up beach chairs behind their property. I believe they are now being sued by adjacent owners who lost their homes in recent storms. When the time comes for public input our county voices must be united behind the nourishment answer. That?s the answer.
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Smiling JOeSmiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal ExpertThe proposal at WC is for two Protectubes stacked to a height of 12 ft. Another homeowner and I have asked why not three of these things for a total height of 18 ft. We are responsible for the vertical of the dune while the gov't is responsible for the horizontal (beach). It does have a wedged shape and has different levels of coverings "supposedly" to protect from debris. It "supposedly" has held up at Longboat Key since 1988. The other option is to truck in more sand (I believe the cost was close to $1,000,000 last year) which WC (St. Joe) paid for. This more "permanent" solution will be an assessment, which I will gladly pay IF it is the best idea.
A while back, Kurt posted a study on the geotubes, including photos of geotubes with huge tears and rips in them. If you don't believe steel and wood can rip through plastic, you may need more help than a geotube and a seawall are able to provide. (I am not speaking directly toward you Sueshore -- I know you are a sensible person.)
TooFarTampaTooFarTampaSoWal InsiderNative of Tampa now in Boston 'burbs. Left my hear5,422 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
TooFarTampaSoWal InsiderNative of Tampa now in Boston 'burbs. Left my hear5,422 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal InsiderThe proposal at WC is for two Protectubes stacked to a height of 12 ft. Another homeowner and I have asked why not three of these things for a total height of 18 ft. We are responsible for the vertical of the dune while the gov't is responsible for the horizontal (beach). It does have a wedged shape and has different levels of coverings "supposedly" to protect from debris. It "supposedly" has held up at Longboat Key since 1988. The other option is to truck in more sand (I believe the cost was close to $1,000,000 last year) which WC (St. Joe) paid for. This more "permanent" solution will be an assessment, which I will gladly pay IF it is the best idea.
Sueshore I don't think a tropical system has come all that close to Longboat Key since 1988. Charley might be the closest, but it was a small and tightly wound storm. There were one or two tropical storms but they hit north of Tampa. It's been verrrrrry quiet at Longboat Key. Here comes Wilma! Get Protectube Dude on speed dial and call him next week!
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Miss KittyMeow47,011 postsJoined View profileMessageMeowSueshore I don't think a tropical system has come all that close to Longboat Key since 1988. Charley might be the closest, but it was a small and tightly wound storm. There were one or two tropical storms but they hit north of Tampa. It's been verrrrrry quiet at Longboat Key. Here comes Wilma! Get Protectube Dude on speed dial and call him next week!
I hate to wish a storm that way to test out these doobious toobs! Here I am getting all hopeful and wishful that some knight on a seahorse is coming to save the dunes!!!
TooFarTampaTooFarTampaSoWal InsiderNative of Tampa now in Boston 'burbs. Left my hear5,422 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
TooFarTampaSoWal InsiderNative of Tampa now in Boston 'burbs. Left my hear5,422 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal InsiderI hate to wish a storm that way to test out these doobious toobs! Here I am getting all hopeful and wishful that some knight on a seahorse is coming to save the dunes!!!
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Sueshore my memory was faulty. Actually, T.S. Gabrielle made landfall south of Tampa Bay with 70 mph winds in 2001. I guess the reason I had absolutely no recollection of it was because it struck Venice on Sept. 14, 2001! 😱 It must have affected our weather but I don't remember it at all, probably because at the time it seemed unimportant. And it was.
FEMA was busy, obviously; it didn't even declare it a disaster until Sept. 28!
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SallyBeach Fanatic654 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticFrom Walton Sun
Environmentalist groups claim that geotubes may pose a threat to sea turtle nesting habitats.
?Geotextile tubes are an experimental technology that have been proven to work in ways that negatively effect sea turtles,? Gary Appleson with the Caribbean Conservation Group said.
Long, synthetic bags filled with a sand and water mixture, geotubes are buried into damaged dunes and covered with sand to create an artificial dune. If the armoring devices are not adequately covered, sea turtles may have a problem nesting in the forthcoming months, Appleson explained.
When nesting, sea turtles require specific sand depths to secure their eggs. Natural elements, such as storms and wave action, cause sand to shift along the coastline.
?The primary concern is how to keep (geotubes) covered in an erosive beach,? Appelson said.
?There is a potential for turtles? eggs sitting on plastic,? Director of the Conservation Clinic at the University of Florida?s College of Law Thomas Ankersen said.
Geotubes were allowed under Walton County?s temporary armoring permits. However, Ankersen is afraid they are intended as permanent solutions.
?Burying them three feet deep doesn?t sound very temporary to me. I haven?t seen one yanked yet,? he said.
Currently, there are no financial requirements for the Department of Environmental Protection or homeowners to maintain abandoned structure. If private property containing a geotube is sold, there are no provisions for maintenance, Ankersen said.
?The key is that in order not to harm, (geotubes) have to be properly maintained forever. It?s critical that there are longterm financial and maintenance regulations to protect the sea turtles,? Appleson said.
Geotubes are not necessarily ?the panacea for controlling coastal erosions,? Ankersen said.
?(Homeowners) need to ask themselves if it will serve the purposes they are seeking,? he added.
Environmentalist groups claim that geotubes may pose a threat to sea turtle nesting habitats.
?Geotextile tubes are an experimental technology that have been proven to work in ways that negatively effect sea turtles,? Gary Appleson with the Caribbean Conservation Group said.
Long, synthetic bags filled with a sand and water mixture, geotubes are buried into damaged dunes and covered with sand to create an artificial dune. If the armoring devices are not adequately covered, sea turtles may have a problem nesting in the forthcoming months, Appleson explained.
When nesting, sea turtles require specific sand depths to secure their eggs. Natural elements, such as storms and wave action, cause sand to shift along the coastline.
?The primary concern is how to keep (geotubes) covered in an erosive beach,? Appelson said.
?There is a potential for turtles? eggs sitting on plastic,? Director of the Conservation Clinic at the University of Florida?s College of Law Thomas Ankersen said.
Geotubes were allowed under Walton County?s temporary armoring permits. However, Ankersen is afraid they are intended as permanent solutions.
?Burying them three feet deep doesn?t sound very temporary to me. I haven?t seen one yanked yet,? he said.
Currently, there are no financial requirements for the Department of Environmental Protection or homeowners to maintain abandoned structure. If private property containing a geotube is sold, there are no provisions for maintenance, Ankersen said.
?The key is that in order not to harm, (geotubes) have to be properly maintained forever. It?s critical that there are longterm financial and maintenance regulations to protect the sea turtles,? Appleson said.
Geotubes are not necessarily ?the panacea for controlling coastal erosions,? Ankersen said.
?(Homeowners) need to ask themselves if it will serve the purposes they are seeking,? he added.
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aquaticbiologyfishlipsredneck heaven799 postsJoined View profileMessagefishlipsFrom Walton Sun
Environmentalist groups claim that geotubes may pose a threat to sea turtle nesting habitats.
don't get your pants in a bunch - people pose a threat to seaturtle nests
i hereby vote we ban all people forever from the beach, period, and post armed guards to protect the turtles
hint: the turtles will get over it, either naturally or with help - if you see a nest in a danger zone or a momma turtle about to do her thing on a geotube call the cops and they will call the dep and they will call somebody to move the nest to a more respectful beach and the babies will return to the 'better' beach forever.
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soappedalerBeach Fanatic427 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticYears ago when the whole beach nourishment (Dregde and Fill) issue started, Van Ness was Commissoner and wanted to copy Pannama City Beach, sand surveys were conducted offshore 30A. Taylor Engineering did not find sand that met the Muson scale standards. The only suitable sand was found in and off of East Pass, that's why Miramar and Destin are getting the Dredge and Fill Project. Taylor, whose out of Jacksonville Florida, suggested that the standard for sand color be "relaxed" along 30A so they could do the dredge and fill. The Community at the time said no way. Listen carefully when the experts start talking. Relax is just double talk for lower our standards and last Fall many of us witnessed what happens when we lower the sand color standards on our beaches.
What is the long term answer? First the DEP needs to stop issueing permits to build south of the Coastal Construcion Control Line (CCCL). Next any structure that is damaged should not be allowed to rebuild south of the CCCL. Dredge and Fill on the beach is a temperary fix, and expensive. It was a mistake to ever allow building south of 30A in most places. Building and seawalls are temporary, the beach is forever if we allow it's dynamic nature to work unfettered. Storm impact on the beaches last year was for the most part due to nondirect hit storms. A lot of money in the form of dredge and fill sand will be washed away in no time and we don't even need a hurricane to make land fall in the Panhandle.
Be careful what you ask for when it involves the Walton County Government.
What is the long term answer? First the DEP needs to stop issueing permits to build south of the Coastal Construcion Control Line (CCCL). Next any structure that is damaged should not be allowed to rebuild south of the CCCL. Dredge and Fill on the beach is a temperary fix, and expensive. It was a mistake to ever allow building south of 30A in most places. Building and seawalls are temporary, the beach is forever if we allow it's dynamic nature to work unfettered. Storm impact on the beaches last year was for the most part due to nondirect hit storms. A lot of money in the form of dredge and fill sand will be washed away in no time and we don't even need a hurricane to make land fall in the Panhandle.
Be careful what you ask for when it involves the Walton County Government.
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Ritamargarita brocoliaDune Allen Beach5,207 postsJoined View profileMessagemargarita brocolia:welcome: And thanks for your post, soapedaler!
TooFarTampaTooFarTampaSoWal InsiderNative of Tampa now in Boston 'burbs. Left my hear5,422 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
TooFarTampaSoWal InsiderNative of Tampa now in Boston 'burbs. Left my hear5,422 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal InsiderYears ago when the whole beach nourishment (Dregde and Fill) issue started, Van Ness was Commissoner and wanted to copy Pannama City Beach, sand surveys were conducted offshore 30A. Taylor Engineering did not find sand that met the Muson scale standards. The only suitable sand was found in and off of East Pass, that's why Miramar and Destin are getting the Dredge and Fill Project. Taylor, whose out of Jacksonville Florida, suggested that the standard for sand color be "relaxed" along 30A so they could do the dredge and fill. The Community at the time said no way. Listen carefully when the experts start talking. Relax is just double talk for lower our standards and last Fall many of us witnessed what happens when we lower the sand color standards on our beaches.
What is the long term answer? First the DEP needs to stop issueing permits to build south of the Coastal Construcion Control Line (CCCL). Next any structure that is damaged should not be allowed to rebuild south of the CCCL. Dredge and Fill on the beach is a temperary fix, and expensive. It was a mistake to ever allow building south of 30A in most places. Building and seawalls are temporary, the beach is forever if we allow it's dynamic nature to work unfettered. Storm impact on the beaches last year was for the most part due to nondirect hit storms. A lot of money in the form of dredge and fill sand will be washed away in no time and we don't even need a hurricane to make land fall in the Panhandle.
Be careful what you ask for when it involves the Walton County Government.
Great post and info. :welcome:
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What is the long term answer?
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SHELLYSoWal Insider5,763 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insiderdon't get your pants in a bunch - people pose a threat to seaturtle nests
hint: the turtles will get over it, either naturally or with help - if you see a nest in a danger zone or a momma turtle about to do her thing on a geotube call the cops and they will call the dep and they will call somebody to move the nest to a more respectful beach and the babies will return to the 'better' beach forever.
I understand the sea turtles have a similar belief about the humans that build their houses on the beach. They believe when the waves pound their homes' foundations into dust, the government should be called in to haul these folks and their soggy belongings to a more "respectful" distance from the beach...say Toledo, Ohio. 😀
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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dear WaterColor Property Owners,[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Last September we presented a dune restoration plan at the annual meeting that we felt offered a long-term solution to the beach erosion issue that we have battled with for the last two hurricane seasons. At that time we introduced the ProTecTube system, a system designed to withstand high storm related wave action and maintain the natural esthetic look and feel of the existing dunes. Subsequently, the Property Owners approved a special assessment for 2005 hurricane clean up, replacement of stairs to the beach and for installation of the ProTecTube system.[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The St. Joe Company, in unison with the WaterColor Board of Directors, has not changed our support of this system. We still strongly believe that the ProTecTube offers great promise against the storms that may hit our area and yet, does not endanger the habitat of the beach and dune area that is vital to WaterColor.[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In our efforts to move forward with this installation, we are required to obtain the proper permitting by the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) and United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS). St. Joe submitted the application for this permit in October of 2005. Despite our best efforts and after several meetings and discussions it is now clear that we will not receive the necessary agency approvals prior to the turtle season which begins May 1st. The FDEP has over 150 applications for beach protection in front of them and have moved very slowly in their reviews. They are being very deliberate in their considerations given the precedent implications associated with what they may approve for dune protection. Our development team continues to vigorously pursue this permitting process to ensure that the installation of this product will be completed as early as possible. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]While there is no way to predict the impacts of the upcoming storm season on our dunes this summer, we believe doing nothing exposes us to the risk of more erosion of the dune system. The only alternative option we see possible that provides some sort of protection is to bring in more sand as an interim buffer until the ProTecTube system can be installed. The sand would be placed via a conveyor system over the dunes and would be shaped with construction equipment. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In order to complete this work we need to purchase and place the sand prior to the end of April. We did not feel it appropriate to divert the money from the approved ProTecTube assessment to pay for the interim sand buffer protection and believe the best approach is to seek a separate assessment to fund this solution for the 2006 hurricane season. In the event that some or all of the sand remains at the end of the hurricane season it may reduce the monies needed to install the ProTecTube system.[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Therefore, we are asking that each of you join with us in approving an additional assessment to each owner of $1,064 to obtain and place sand against the dunes as a protective measure until the ProTecTube system can be installed in the fall after turtle season. This amount has been computed assuming that the company will contribute funds associated with the units it controls (representing 23% of the assessment amount). The board will not seek the collection for the original $2,484.61 assessment until all permits are received from the Florida Department of Environmental Protection and United States Fish and Wildlife Service and resources have been reviewed.[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Be assured that every effort has been expended to bring this project to completion and we will continue to work diligently to see this project through to the end. We have begun the permitting process with the agencies for the sand conveyor to ensure installation before May 1st. Therefore, it is imperative that this vote be completed and returned no later than April 7th, 2006. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If you have any questions or would like to obtain additional information please contact Jack Wolfe, President of the WaterColor Homeowner?s Association at jack.wolfe@joe.com, Sandy Matteson-Pierson, Regional Property Manager at sandy.matteson@joe.com or any of the other Board of Director members.[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We are grateful for your support and promise to update you as we move forward on this endeavor. Thank you for your patience and for your willingness to work with us to protect our beaches and our community.
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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sincerely,[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]WaterColor Board of Directors[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Bob Bolen
John Carr
Jack Wolfe
Mary Rosenheim
Kent Findley[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Last September we presented a dune restoration plan at the annual meeting that we felt offered a long-term solution to the beach erosion issue that we have battled with for the last two hurricane seasons. At that time we introduced the ProTecTube system, a system designed to withstand high storm related wave action and maintain the natural esthetic look and feel of the existing dunes. Subsequently, the Property Owners approved a special assessment for 2005 hurricane clean up, replacement of stairs to the beach and for installation of the ProTecTube system.[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The St. Joe Company, in unison with the WaterColor Board of Directors, has not changed our support of this system. We still strongly believe that the ProTecTube offers great promise against the storms that may hit our area and yet, does not endanger the habitat of the beach and dune area that is vital to WaterColor.[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In our efforts to move forward with this installation, we are required to obtain the proper permitting by the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) and United States Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS). St. Joe submitted the application for this permit in October of 2005. Despite our best efforts and after several meetings and discussions it is now clear that we will not receive the necessary agency approvals prior to the turtle season which begins May 1st. The FDEP has over 150 applications for beach protection in front of them and have moved very slowly in their reviews. They are being very deliberate in their considerations given the precedent implications associated with what they may approve for dune protection. Our development team continues to vigorously pursue this permitting process to ensure that the installation of this product will be completed as early as possible. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]While there is no way to predict the impacts of the upcoming storm season on our dunes this summer, we believe doing nothing exposes us to the risk of more erosion of the dune system. The only alternative option we see possible that provides some sort of protection is to bring in more sand as an interim buffer until the ProTecTube system can be installed. The sand would be placed via a conveyor system over the dunes and would be shaped with construction equipment. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In order to complete this work we need to purchase and place the sand prior to the end of April. We did not feel it appropriate to divert the money from the approved ProTecTube assessment to pay for the interim sand buffer protection and believe the best approach is to seek a separate assessment to fund this solution for the 2006 hurricane season. In the event that some or all of the sand remains at the end of the hurricane season it may reduce the monies needed to install the ProTecTube system.[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Therefore, we are asking that each of you join with us in approving an additional assessment to each owner of $1,064 to obtain and place sand against the dunes as a protective measure until the ProTecTube system can be installed in the fall after turtle season. This amount has been computed assuming that the company will contribute funds associated with the units it controls (representing 23% of the assessment amount). The board will not seek the collection for the original $2,484.61 assessment until all permits are received from the Florida Department of Environmental Protection and United States Fish and Wildlife Service and resources have been reviewed.[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Be assured that every effort has been expended to bring this project to completion and we will continue to work diligently to see this project through to the end. We have begun the permitting process with the agencies for the sand conveyor to ensure installation before May 1st. Therefore, it is imperative that this vote be completed and returned no later than April 7th, 2006. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If you have any questions or would like to obtain additional information please contact Jack Wolfe, President of the WaterColor Homeowner?s Association at jack.wolfe@joe.com, Sandy Matteson-Pierson, Regional Property Manager at sandy.matteson@joe.com or any of the other Board of Director members.[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We are grateful for your support and promise to update you as we move forward on this endeavor. Thank you for your patience and for your willingness to work with us to protect our beaches and our community.
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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sincerely,[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]WaterColor Board of Directors[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Bob Bolen
John Carr
Jack Wolfe
Mary Rosenheim
Kent Findley[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Town Hall Meeting[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We will hold a Town Hall Meeting in order to provide a forum for WaterColor Homeowners to discuss the proposed new assessment for the additional dune protection system for WaterColor beaches. Our hope is that this forum will allow for any and all questions to be discussed and answered so that we may all work together to protect our beaches that are so important to our Community. Please mark your calendars for one of the following dates and times: [/font]
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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We will hold a Town Hall Meeting in order to provide a forum for WaterColor Homeowners to discuss the proposed new assessment for the additional dune protection system for WaterColor beaches. Our hope is that this forum will allow for any and all questions to be discussed and answered so that we may all work together to protect our beaches that are so important to our Community. Please mark your calendars for one of the following dates and times: [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Town Hall Meeting[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Wednesday March 8th [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]6:30 PM to 8:30 PM [/font]
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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Saturday March 25th [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3:00 PM to 5:00 PM [/font]
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Miss KittyMeow47,011 postsJoined View profileMessageMeow😱 I received this today. I am not sure what to think. First I hear they closed the WC Market and now they want more $$$. I need to sleep on this one.
Buckhead RickBuckhead RickBeach Lover140 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Lover
There is a growing disenchanment with the Watercolor comm. association / rental management and St Joe. This last e-mail from Joe only came about after a small but very vocal group continued to demand answers. Joe feels silence in golden. Owners might consider voting no until ALL cards are on the table, remember Joe has the most to lose, we have the Inn as our dune of last resort (no pun intended)
BlueMtnBeachVagrantBlueMtnBeachVagrantBeach Fanatic1,385 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach Fanatic
BlueMtnBeachVagrantBeach Fanatic1,385 postsJoined View profileMessageBeach FanaticThere is a growing disenchanment with the Watercolor comm. association / rental management and St Joe. This last e-mail from Joe only came about after a small but very vocal group continued to demand answers. Joe feels silence in golden. Owners might consider voting no until ALL cards are on the table, remember Joe has the most to lose, we have the Inn as our dune of last resort (no pun intended)
Buckhead Rick,
Could you or anyone else at WC please answer the following questions:
1. Are any structures at WC in "emminent danger of collapse"?
2. How high, roughly, were the ProTecTubes proposed to be above sea-level?
3. What is the elevation of the structure(s) that WC is trying to protect?
Thanks!
Smiling JOeSmiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Expert
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert31,643 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal ExpertBuckhead Rick,No structures in WC are in emminent danger of collapse.
Could you or anyone else at WC please answer the following questions:
1. Are any structures at WC in "emminent danger of collapse"?
2. How high, roughly, were the ProTecTubes proposed to be above sea-level?
3. What is the elevation of the structure(s) that WC is trying to protect?
Thanks!
Miss KittyMiss KittyMeow47,011 postsJoined View profileMessageMeow
Miss KittyMeow47,011 postsJoined View profileMessageMeowNo structures in WC are in emminent danger of collapse.
We (WC property owners) have been asked for another assessment in addition to the earlier ProTecttube one to bring in sand before turtle season. Time ran out to get the tube started and it is felt sand will be our next best defense until the tube can be installed.
TooFarTampaTooFarTampaSoWal InsiderNative of Tampa now in Boston 'burbs. Left my hear5,422 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal Insider
TooFarTampaSoWal InsiderNative of Tampa now in Boston 'burbs. Left my hear5,422 postsJoined View profileMessageSoWal InsiderNo structures in WC are in emminent danger of collapse.But are they in imminent danger of losing tourists? Why else bring in sand?
Miss KittyMiss KittyMeow47,011 postsJoined View profileMessageMeow
Miss KittyMeow47,011 postsJoined View profileMessageMeowBut are they in imminent danger of losing tourists? Why else bring in sand?
Good question. It does sound like a "beauty" fix to me.
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