Vote yes on 2

It is death, same as any other sin that you do not turn from. Its not up to me to agree. Its GODS law I just have to obey it.

Hold on now, heterosexuals die too. Do you or do you not agree that homosexuals should be put to death as advocated in the good book? Don't go all 'I don't interpret the Bible literally' milquetoast on me.

its there in black and white look it up it says god hates that ..... Geesh. Its says GOD hates that as in he hates that ACT!!!!

Leviticus 18:22 (New King James Version)

New King James Version (NKJV) Copyright ? 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.

'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

GOD'S WORD? Translation (?1995)
Never have sexual intercourse with a man as with a woman. It is disgusting.
King James Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
American King James Version
You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
American Standard Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Bible in Basic English
You may not have sex relations with men, as you do with women: it is a disgusting thing.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination.
Darby Bible Translation
And thou shalt not lie with mankind as one lieth with a woman: it is an abomination.
English Revised Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Webster's Bible Translation
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
World English Bible
"'You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable. Young's Literal Translation
And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it is.

Are you seroiuse GOD doesnt Adress Homosexuality? Dont miss lead the readers please. God adresses homosexuality and his point is very clear on that. GOD also adresses those whom mislead aswell in the Bible. Remember what was said about the millstone.

leviticus 18 :22 No man is to have sexual relations with another Man: GOD hates that. ( meaning that GOD hates that sin, he still loves you!)

Ok in Mark 10:6 JESUS SAYS:
6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
10 And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.

Ok there it is JESUS said it!


IN OTHER WORDS VOTE YES ON #2 EVEN JESUS SAYS MARRIAGE IS FOR A MAN AND WOMAN!!!!!!

Well Swampfox, I've been waiting for someone to bring in the Bible to this thread.

There were a few questions asked by members of the elite online community following the days that Dr. Laura Schlessinger cited Homosexuality as an abomination, as clearly sanction in Leviticus 18:22 (as you mention yourself).

I've compiled the best rebuttals to Dr. Laura below:
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I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
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Now, I have one question for you: Do you really read read the Bible, or do you just use it as a convenient prop to hide your prejudices behind?

And one last thing- I showed this thread to a few of my peers on this University's campus, believing it would incite laughter. It did not. Instead, it incited sadness, for so many of my peers (of all backgrounds) could not believe that people still cherry-pick religious scripture to suit their own purposes.

ok here u go.....

Romans 7:6 "Now then we are free from the Law,because we died to that which once held us prisoners, No longer do we serve in the old way of a written law, but in the new way of the spriit)(after the death of Jesus the Lord set his spirit to the earth) it's a little short but by our death in the old ways was put up for sacrifice with Jesus.

Now Paul who is filled with the spirit and is writing under the new law in 1 COR 7 : 2 says But there is so much immorality, every man should have his own wife, and every Woman should have her own husband.

Ok in Mark 10:6 JESUS SAYS:
6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
10 And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.

Ok there it is JESUS said it! And thats under the new law!!!!

I have a question then: What if I'm of an other faith that does not condemn homosexuality. Do you believe that a Christian's voice is more important in this country, than someone else of another faith?

its there in black and white look it up it says god hates that ..... Geesh. Its says GOD hates that as in he hates that ACT!!!!

Leviticus 18:22 (New King James Version)

New King James Version (NKJV) Copyright ? 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.

'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

GOD'S WORD? Translation (?1995)
Never have sexual intercourse with a man as with a woman. It is disgusting.
King James Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
American King James Version
You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
American Standard Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Bible in Basic English
You may not have sex relations with men, as you do with women: it is a disgusting thing.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination.
Darby Bible Translation
And thou shalt not lie with mankind as one lieth with a woman: it is an abomination.
English Revised Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Webster's Bible Translation
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
World English Bible
"'You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable. Young's Literal Translation
And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it is.

Christianity is not based upon facts; it is based upon faith.

You should not use the Bible as a weapon against other humans who do not believe the same as you.

You should use it as a guide on how you personally can become closer to God.

What a shame that you believe in a god who hates anything. My God is incapable of hate.

I'm with MissCritter on this one.

Humans have used religion to control others since the beginning of time. God is unconditional love and absolute goodness. Human's use of God to force their values and their will onto the world devalues God.

A vote of yes on #2 is a vote against lesbians. I like lesbians. What sane (heterosexual) male human wouldn't. I also like going to lesbian parties, they throw some great parties.

A vote of yes on #2 is a vote against lesbians. I like lesbians. What sane male human wouldn't. I also like going to lesbian parties, they throw some great parties.

It is a known fact that homosexuals throw better parties than heterosexuals.

Also, I don't think the Old Testament actually addresses the ladies in the above post. So why should they be thrown out with the bathwater?

;-)

It is a known fact that homosexuals throw better parties than heterosexuals.

Also, I don't think the Old Testament actually addresses the ladies in the above post. So why should they be thrown out with the bathwater?

;-)

God likes lesbians too? I can't blame him, or, maybe.. her?

its there in black and white look it up it says god hates that ..... Geesh. Its says GOD hates that as in he hates that ACT!!!!

Leviticus 18:22 (New King James Version)

New King James Version (NKJV) Copyright ? 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.

'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

GOD'S WORD? Translation (?1995)
Never have sexual intercourse with a man as with a woman. It is disgusting.
King James Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
American King James Version
You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
American Standard Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Bible in Basic English
You may not have sex relations with men, as you do with women: it is a disgusting thing.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination.
Darby Bible Translation
And thou shalt not lie with mankind as one lieth with a woman: it is an abomination.
English Revised Version
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Webster's Bible Translation
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
World English Bible
"'You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable. Young's Literal Translation
And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it is.

I have been waiting to drop this bombshell. Catholicism and Christianity are responsible for more deaths than Hitler and Stalin put together. Yes I said Hitler! Keep religion, not faith out of politics. Religion and politics are the opiate of the masses the blind will follow like sheep.

Now. I have got my opinions on all of this as well... same as every other American. But I have learned that Matthew Christ is a pretty sharp individual, and though he is only two years my senior, I doubt I will ever be as knowledgeable as he is right now. ... so I think the disscussion should have honestly ended there.

Yes or No for Amendment 2. ... just get out there and vote. Those of you who don't shouldn't post and say anything.

ok here u go.....

Romans 7:6 "Now then we are free from the Law,because we died to that which once held us prisoners, No longer do we serve in the old way of a written law, but in the new way of the spriit)(after the death of Jesus the Lord set his spirit to the earth) it's a little short but by our death in the old ways was put up for sacrifice with Jesus.

Now Paul who is filled with the spirit and is writing under the new law in 1 COR 7 : 2 says But there is so much immorality, every man should have his own wife, and every Woman should have her own husband.

Ok in Mark 10:6 JESUS SAYS:
6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
10 And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.

Ok there it is JESUS said it! And thats under the new law!!!!

Great. So what did Jesus have to say about homosexuality? The answer is nothing, pro/con or otherwise. He did however state:
"It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but it is what comes out of the mouth that defiles... what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles, for out of the heart comes evil intentions, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander; these are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile." (Matthew 15:10, 18-20)

Clearly, Jesus did not think adherence to Judaic law was as important as the common sense concept of being decent toward your fellow man. Why do you feel it is important to cite Jewish law Jesus himself found irrelevant? I suspect it is because, try as you might, you will never, ever, be able to cite Jesus condemning homosexuality.

I have a question then: What if I'm of an other faith that does not condemn homosexuality. Do you believe that a Christian's voice is more important in this country, than someone else of another faith?

Many people do, and it makes me kinda ill.

Vote yes on #2, it is the best move to protect our society and its traditions.

Vote yes on #2, it is the best move to protect our society and its traditions.

could you elaborate?

I have a question then: What if I'm of an other faith that does not condemn homosexuality. Do you believe that a Christian's voice is more important in this country, than someone else of another faith?

Let me make myself clear I dont condem homosexuality, GOD does. It is not my place to condem anyone. I love all people the same ( or try my best to ) If you are of another faith then that is between you and GOD. Marriage is held sacred by the Lord and when its definition is watered down to reflect sin Then I am forced against my relegion to accept a worldy definition for marriage, which is a GODLY act.


what if there was an amendment on board to change "Buda" to orange, would that be acceptable? Of course not. Or Baptism for washing an elephants behind. I have no problem with the term "civil Union" and reconizing gay rights, no problem at all. But when socitey want to twist a christian term then its time to speak up, because my rights are in jeopardy.

Great. So what did Jesus have to say about homosexuality? The answer is nothing, pro/con or otherwise. He did however state:
"It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but it is what comes out of the mouth that defiles... what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles, for out of the heart comes evil intentions, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander; these are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile." (Matthew 15:10, 18-20)

Clearly, Jesus did not think adherence to Judaic law was as important as the common sense concept of being decent toward your fellow man. Why do you feel it is important to cite Jewish law Jesus himself found irrelevant? I suspect it is because, try as you might, you will never, ever, be able to cite Jesus condemning homosexuality.

John 3:17 for GOD did not send his SON into the world to be its judge, but to be its savior

Now Jesus defined an act of Marriage as between a Man and Woman can YOU find me Anything to the contrary I bet not

Christianity is not based upon facts; it is based upon faith.

You should not use the Bible as a weapon against other humans who do not believe the same as you.

You should use it as a guide on how you personally can become closer to God.

Im not I only answer the question posed to me about my faith

Swampfox- I am asking this out of curiosity. What denomination of church do you attend? What you say seems so different than the Christian services I attend.

Let me make myself clear I dont condem homosexuality, GOD does. It is not my place to condem anyone. I love all people the same ( or try my best to ) If you are of another faith then that is between you and GOD. Marriage is held sacred by the Lord and when its definition is watered down to reflect sin Then I am forced against my relegion to accept a worldy definition for marriage, which is a GODLY act.


what if there was an amendment on board to change "Buda" to orange, would that be acceptable? Of course not. Or Baptism for washing an elephants behind. I have no problem with the term "civil Union" and reconizing gay rights, no problem at all. But when socitey want to twist a christian term then its time to speak up, because my rights are in jeopardy.

You have still not answered my question.

Do you believe that your belief system as a Christian is held to a higher regard constitutionally than someone else of another faith?
In the United States of America?

Now though I have not spoke out of hatred, but out of my heart for what is REAL, I have drawn the adversity of many. I have not been hateful or rude to anyone. But to those who wish to mock me or my faith I leave you with this. Jesus is the only one to fulfill every prophesy about his coming. Just to give you an idea of the true meaning of that. The very likelyhood of that happening is like taking the state of Texas and filling it 1 foot tall with quarters and painting 1 red and dropping it in the mix, then calling over a blinded stranger and having him pluck that quarter out. If you want to believe or not believe thats up to you! But do not Mis quote the Bible or use sections of it to promote your own little purpose without knowledge of what it says as an entirity. Other wise the Bible will be used to point that out.

To those who wish to condem me I am not angry for you and I am happy for me I leave you with this.

John 15 :16 If the world hates you, just remember that it hated me first. 19 ) If you belonged to the world then the world would have loved you as its own. But I choose you from this world, and you do not belong to it; that is why the world hates you 20) Remember what I told you: "no slave is greater then its master." If they persecuted me , they will persecute you too;

I will not repost less I am psoed with more qoestions or there is attempt to mislead through the Bible.

My definition of Marriage is MY right and the government can not force me by law to reconize it as anything other then between a man and a woman. CIVIL UNION is thegays right, just as long as they keep there hands off of that which is made sacred between a man and a woman, and no not call it marriage

VOTE YES YES YES on admendment #2

You have still not answered my question.

Do you believe that your belief system as a Christian is held to a higher regard constitutionally than someone else of another faith?
In the United States of America?

No I do not if anything it is held to a lower reguard, Did'nt I cite a few on the battles against the ACLU as posed against christianity. And I did answer you question

Dont you think alot less time and effort would be spent on calling civil union just what it is and not what it isnt? And the end result would be the same.

John 3:17 for GOD did not send his SON into the world to be its judge, but to be its savior

Now Jesus defined an act of Marriage as between a Man and Woman can YOU find me Anything to the contrary I bet not

The burden of proof is not on me, it is on YOU because you state Jesus is against homosexuality. Keep reading...Jesus never weighed-in on the topic.

The burden of proof is not on me, it is on YOU because you state Jesus is against homosexuality. Keep reading...Jesus never weighed-in on the topic.

Jesus defined marraige Ive quoted it many times. Jesus loves all sinners not just one or two types. The issue isnt weather homosexuality should be legal its wether or not Marriage is anything other than as defined by JESUS. JESUS does call to turn away from all sin, such as indecent sexual acts to include sex before marriage, then defines marriage as between a Man amd Woman. You to the math.

Let me make myself clear I dont condem homosexuality, GOD does. It is not my place to condem anyone. I love all people the same ( or try my best to ) If you are of another faith then that is between you and GOD. Marriage is held sacred by the Lord and when its definition is watered down to reflect sin Then I am forced against my relegion to accept a worldy definition for marriage, which is a GODLY act.


what if there was an amendment on board to change "Buda" to orange, would that be acceptable? Of course not. Or Baptism for washing an elephants behind. I have no problem with the term "civil Union" and reconizing gay rights, no problem at all. But when socitey want to twist a christian term then its time to speak up, because my rights are in jeopardy.

John 3:17 for GOD did not send his SON into the world to be its judge, but to be its savior

Now Jesus defined an act of Marriage as between a Man and Woman can YOU find me Anything to the contrary I bet not

Now though I have not spoke out of hatred, but out of my heart for what is REAL, I have drawn the adversity of many. I have not been hateful or rude to anyone. But to those who wish to mock me or my faith I leave you with this. Jesus is the only one to fulfill every prophesy about his coming. Just to give you an idea of the true meaning of that. The very likelyhood of that happening is like taking the state of Texas and filling it 1 foot tall with quarters and painting 1 red and dropping it in the mix, then calling over a blinded stranger and having him pluck that quarter out. If you want to believe or not believe thats up to you! But do not Mis quote the Bible or use sections of it to promote your own little purpose without knowledge of what it says as an entirity. Other wise the Bible will be used to point that out.

To those who wish to condem me I am not angry for you and I am happy for me I leave you with this.

John 15 :16 If the world hates you, just remember that it hated me first. 19 ) If you belonged to the world then the world would have loved you as its own. But I choose you from this world, and you do not belong to it; that is why the world hates you 20) Remember what I told you: "no slave is greater then its master." If they persecuted me , they will persecute you too;

I will not repost less I am psoed with more qoestions or there is attempt to mislead through the Bible.

My definition of Marriage is MY right and the government can not force me by law to reconize it as anything other then between a man and a woman. CIVIL UNION is thegays right, just as long as they keep there hands off of that which is made sacred between a man and a woman, and no not call it marriage

VOTE YES YES YES on admendment #2

I most definitely baptize after washing an elephants behind or I have the three times that I have washed one, I try not to make it a habit.
As it was originally written in the Bible, I imagine it was a Hebrew word and not "marriage" at all. The etymology of marriage and civil union appear to be very similar..whats the difference?