Light Pollution

I understand a certain entity from Bay County who has been a long standing objector to any lighting ordinance will now play the "cost" card in these hard economic times in order to thwart any efforts to get a lighting ordinance in Walton County. Plan a great dinner in DeFuniak before, during or after the meeting. You might even be able to take in the CHRISTMAS LIGHT DISPLAY around the Circle!!

Also, since the lights went on I no longer hear the owls that used to congregate in the woods along Western Lake-I am not sure of cause and effect, however.

We had an owl over here by Eastern Lake, but it seems to be gone now too. And we don't seem to have had any changes in lighting.

Sorry for your difficulty with the neighbors' lights. We had a similar uplighting situation with a neighbor, but fortunately were able to resolve it with a friendly discussion.

Did anyone go to the meeting about the light ordinance tonight?

I also wanted to report that my neighbor across the lake has kindly, and much to my relief, begun to turn his lights off at night. It appears that he is also killing the floodlights that were aimed at the sky on Skunkape's side, and I am waiting for a report that such is the case.

Did anyone go to the meeting about the light ordinance tonight?

I also wanted to report that my neighbor across the lake has kindly, and much to my relief, begun to turn his lights off at night. It appears that he is also killing the floodlights that were aimed at the sky on Skunkape's side, and I am waiting for a report that such is the case.

Maybe the SoWal pen is mightier than the sword after all.

Did anyone go to the meeting about the light ordinance tonight?

I also wanted to report that my neighbor across the lake has kindly, and much to my relief, begun to turn his lights off at night. It appears that he is also killing the floodlights that were aimed at the sky on Skunkape's side, and I am waiting for a report that such is the case.

I have been sick for a few days and didn't get to go. I think it has been toned down a bit. I even think I heard one of the owls the other night

I understand a certain entity from Bay County who has been a long standing objector to any lighting ordinance will now play the "cost" card in these hard economic times in order to thwart any efforts to get a lighting ordinance in Walton County. Plan a great dinner in DeFuniak before, during or after the meeting. You might even be able to take in the CHRISTMAS LIGHT DISPLAY around the Circle!!

Will that display not be illegal once all of these new regulations are passed? If they are passed.

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Owls also represent wise thought. Why do you feel so comfortable operating without them?

Solve your lighting problem. Pellet guns are very inexpensive at Wally World. The owls will come back and those annoying puppies will be gone.

WRobert, great to se you have re-emerged from the basement. Hope that your conservative juices have been recharged.

WRobert, great to se you have re-emerged from the basement. Hope that your conservative juices have been recharged.

More like a loser that is dripping with resentment and hate.

More like a loser that is dripping with resentment and hate.

In other words he's back to his old self again.

In other words he's back to his old self again.

No, I didn't mean that as a personal insult. I meant he is the loser of an election and instead of channeling that effort into something good he is lashing out in an effort to make himself feel better.

Robert, if you want people to stop thinking you are bitter and hateful you need to HUG the turtles, not EAT them.:funn::funn:

Turtle soup is supposed to be good (though an acquired taste), and something I might like to try (non-endangered of course) but I still think people should turn off their damn floodlights!

The last time I checked, Defuniak was not within 750' of the mean high water line and so their Christmas light display will obviously not be affected.

No, I didn't mean that as a personal insult. I meant he is the loser of an election and instead of channeling that effort into something good he is lashing out in an effort to make himself feel better.

His pre-election posts seemed like that to me.

Turtle soup is supposed to be good (though an acquired taste), and something I might like to try (non-endangered of course) but I still think people should turn off their damn floodlights!

The last time I checked, Defuniak was not within 750' of the mean high water line and so their Christmas light display will obviously not be affected.

We might be after tonight Still raining.............

We might be after tonight Still raining.............

Will you toss out a line as we float by?

Will you toss out a line as we float by?

Yep, just don't mind the dog hair. Everyone got groomed this week and it's still showing up:shock:

His pre-election posts seemed like that to me.

No the more recent ones are a lot more jaded and bitter than anything prior to the election. Of course you might be privy to some of his other screen names.

No the more recent ones are a lot more jaded and bitter than anything prior to the election. Of course you might be privy to some of his other screen names.

Maybe I just missed a lot of the newer posts. I'm not curious enough to check them out right now and probably never will be. Too late.

Robert, if you want people to stop thinking you are bitter and hateful you need to HUG the turtles, not EAT them.:funn::funn:

Those that really know me, ie., Shallowsnole, can attest that this is just me, not bitter or hateful, actually just a return to normal.

But it does bring up something that I do have a hard time grasping. How do we know that it is not God's plan for the turtles to go the way of the dinosaurs? If these same species concerns had been around thousands of years ago I would be dodging T-Rex on the way to work in the morning.

As for what people think, that is the least of my concerns. Someone has to stand up to the people that want to control the rest of us. Doing so does bring in an inordinate amount of criticism and attention. That, I believe is why so many say nothing on this forum.

The last time I checked, Defuniak was not within 750' of the mean high water line and so their Christmas light display will obviously not be affected.

So you are for a law that singles out a group of people based on where they live? 750' goes all the way back to Grove Ave in Seaside according to the map. Do we have this problem with turtles crossing 30-A going to the lights four blocks off the beach?

How about this, we set the zone to be from the high water line to the CCL and all parcels or buildings that a portion of touch the CCL. This would at least place these burdens on the people that are the intended targets.

More like a loser that is dripping with resentment and hate.

Sorry if I am coming off that way. Not intended.

As for the losing, of course winning would have been great. But I do not look at it really as losing. I did what I was asked to do and the task was accomplished. The disappointment comes from getting as far as I did. I was suppose to lose in the primary. That was what should have happened and that I was prepared for, not the way it worked out.

Those that really know me, ie., Shallowsnole, can attest that this is just me, not bitter or hateful, actually just a return to normal.

But it does bring up something that I do have a hard time grasping. How do we know that it is not God's plan for the turtles to go the way of the dinosaurs? If these same species concerns had been around thousands of years ago I would be dodging T-Rex on the way to work in the morning.

As for what people think, that is the least of my concerns. Someone has to stand up to the people that want to control the rest of us. Doing so does bring in an inordinate amount of criticism and attention. That, I believe is why so many say nothing on this forum.

I am glad to see you back. Wish you would have won the election, but you ran an honorable race.
You are correct about people ( the silent majority) not posting here because they don't want to face the criticism of the fruits and nuts. You are also correct that someone must do it or people get the idea that that crowd IS the majority.

Sorry if I am coming off that way. Not intended.

As for the losing, of course winning would have been great. But I do not look at it really as losing. I did what I was asked to do and the task was accomplished. The disappointment comes from getting as far as I did. I was suppose to lose in the primary. That was what should have happened and that I was prepared for, not the way it worked out.

You know I respect everyone that put their necks out to run for public office. It is not for the faint of heart and it is much easier for many(no one specific) to armchair quarterback their thoughts rather than to put it on the line and run for office. I, for one, may not always agree with either side, but I enjoy my friendships with both Dems and Reps. I'm glad you're back Wrobert and although you and I do not always agree, we are both adult enough to not let it interfere with our ability to talk, be friends or remain civil to each other. And until that time(which will be never) that I run for a local public office, I will not dis anyone I know that does..

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I am glad to see you back. Wish you would have won the election, but you ran an honorable race.
You are correct about people ( the silent majority) not posting here because they don't want to face the criticism of the fruits and nuts. You are also correct that someone must do it or people get the idea that that crowd IS the majority.

It's not about a majority and why does it have to be? There is enough fruit cake to go around for everyone. Some are like me and don't fit perfectly on either side. My ballot had enough zig zags to be a connect the dots. Where do all of those people fit.

But it does bring up something that I do have a hard time grasping. How do we know that it is not God's plan for the turtles to go the way of the dinosaurs?

what if you eventually find out that the turtles were the lynch pin for the entire biological balance of the planet? it would be a little late then.

How about this, we set the zone to be from the high water line to the CCL and all parcels or buildings that a portion of touch the CCL. This would at least place these burdens on the people that are the intended targets.

750' may be a little exteme. many counties have adopted a 'visible from the beach' language in their ordinances.