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What are our county leaders doing for us.

Beach Lover
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I don't know very much about gov and how it all works, but are the commissioners just going to let our county slowy die out? Business after business is closing around here with no end in sight. Is there something they can do to attract some business to our area??

We have so much rural area that could be marketed to some kind of larger business. Not another Homedepot, but some manufacturing, shipping, growing, SOMETHING that works ALL YEAR
We have rail service and interstate access in the north. There is supposed to be a new airport in bay county. Seems to me that this should be attractive to some kind of large scale industry around here.

Is there anything our local clowns can do to attract some good jobs here? Or are they just going to rely on vacioners to pay taxes to pay their salaries?
I would like to see people be albe to work year round not just spring break and summer.
I love it here and I want my grandkids to be able to find careers here and stay here, but the future looks very bleak. I know the whole nation is in a tough time, and there is not a lot of new projects anywhere, but are they doing anything to attract some kind of profitable, sustainable year 'round work for us?
I don't want to clean condos, or rent bicycles and kayaks 1/2 the year. I would like to see people WORKING profitably all year. We need some leadership and some action. Are we just going to take this lying down? Are we just going to let nothing happen and our community just go to heck?
If our commissioners are doing something to make this county better for the folks who live here year round I don't know what it is.
If this is the best we have for county gov, then I will be sure to not re-elect any of them. This is a time for action and LEADERSHIP.
Show me something. Make some waves. There is NO reason Walton county cannot be the most financially sound county in NW FL.
WAKE UP COMMISSIONERS, your people need you to lead them.

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rapunzel avatar
Beach Fanatic
#52
From what I understand, there is only one reason why Eglin is still in operation and growing, and maybe that is what daughette Matt was wanting -- Congressional pull.

As for addressing the educated workforce, Bay County leaders have recognized this, too, and is working with GCCC and FSU-PC. Walton County has only the Defunk campus of NW FL College (or whatever the new name is), and will soon be getting two buildings for a South Walton campus. Walton County offers tax credits, land, and decent infrastructure, with more on the way, and is very close to the newly coming PCB airport, as well as Eglin AFB. We just need a connected Congressman to twist arms of people to bring contracts and business to Walton County. In this troubled economy, there are only two types of businesses which thrive -- 1) Government and 2) Government support businesses. Washington DC is probably the only city in the USA which is still churning left and right, and always will.

South Walton is represented by the long serving member of the majority party in the House of Representatives -- Alan Boyd. Sadly, he gets little support from our area because we are such a one party place, so getting him to twist arms on our behalf may be a bit difficult. Still, we DO have a well-connected congressman.
BeachSiO2 avatar
Beach Fanatic
#53
South Walton is represented by the long serving member of the majority party in the House of Representatives -- Alan Boyd. Sadly, he gets little support from our area because we are such a one party place, so getting him to twist arms on our behalf may be a bit difficult. Still, we DO have a well-connected congressman.

Yes, you do and don't forget he has been on the Appropriations Committee since the Clinton administration. Unfortunately, he pulls less than 20% of the vote in Sowal or you would have a stronger ally. On the other hand he is a farmers best friend near Tallahassee as they support him in large numbers.

On a related note, it sounds like he is one person thinking of running for the Martinez seat. Time will tell if he thinks he has enough statewide name recognition.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#54
Come on man. If a port here was financially viable, the private businesses that would profit from it would would have already built it. The feds are notorious for building infrastructure we do not need. We already have an "airport ot nowhere", do we really want a "port to nowhere" too? :cool:

I think the port hasn't been utilized because SoWal has been more interested in the "millions" the real estate market was making, and keeping SoWal eclectically appealing! Now, however, the market has changed, and other avenues have to be considered. It's time we think about the whole of our community, not just the socially advantaged.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#55
fl girl, why do you use the pronoun, "we?" "We" don't create industry. Typically, it is those who are wealthy or financially well-connected, who create those businesses.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#56
fl girl, why do you use the pronoun, "we?" "We" don't create industry. Typically, it is those who are wealthy or financially well-connected, who create those businesses.

The foot can't say of the hand, I have no need of thee. We, as a collective unit, create the community we live in. If we want something to better our community, we need support from as many as possible. Individuals can contribute in part to the whole. We all have different talents and capabilities, all are important!
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#57
The foot can't say of the hand, I have no need of thee. We, as a collective unit, create the community we live in. If we want something to better our community, we need support from as many as possible. Individuals can contribute in part to the whole. We all have different talents and capabilities, all are important!

So 'create the community' instead of just biatching about what "they" haven't done for you.

Another poster provided a list in another thread of where all of the rest of the Bailout money is being directed - much of it grant based. Forget about the port and see what YOU can do to use some of that infrastructure money to improve our community.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#58
So 'create the community' instead of just biatching about what "they" haven't done for you.

Another poster provided a list in another thread of where all of the rest of the Bailout money is being directed - much of it grant based. Forget about the port and see what YOU can do to use some of that infrastructure money to improve our community.

Who said anything about Government aid? Who's "they haven't done for you"? And how did you get that? I am trying to "create a community" of relative cooperation, and have been for years! Why would I think that increasing our nations debt is going to actually help us? What about good ole American ingenuity?
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#59
What about good ole American ingenuity?

Use some and you might get a grant to do some of the stuff you want - for example there is alot being directed towards alternate energy.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#60
Who said anything about Government aid? Who's "they haven't done for you"? And how did you get that? I am trying to "create a community" of relative cooperation, and have been for years! Why would I think that increasing our nations debt is going to actually help us? What about good ole American ingenuity?
The title of this thread is "What are our county leaders doing for us(?)"

Do you think that ports build themselves? It would require either gov't funding or private funding, and most of us don't have money to invest in a building a port which could ship things which we don't have. So, if it isn't funding that you want the County to provide, what is it? Do you want our County to start inventing things? As I noted, the County and State already offer many incentives to draw business to our area.
Beach Fanatic
#61
not much gets done anywhere in Florida without "Obama Bucks" the pork formerly know as Federal-Tax $$ sent to states with deals cut in smoke filled rooms. Cynic button off. Why the very Mossy Headed alternative fuel project depends on a huge federal grant. The state is broke the county is broke and the feds are mega broke and the nw panhandle voted Mccain, wonder how that will work out for us?
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#62
In today's economic times, creativity is the keyword to survival. If there is a reason for a port, I'm sure cooperation from the county, etc., would be possible, in combination with the investors creating the business. However, one grievance from a citizen foils the whole project. That, in my opinion is the root of the problem. It seems that any project, regardless of it?s worth, has complaints, to the degree of law suits. As long as this continues, nothing will ever get done!
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#63
In today's economic times, creativity is the keyword to survival. If there is a reason for a port, I'm sure cooperation from the county, etc., would be possible, in combination with the investors creating the business. However, one grievance from a citizen foils the whole project. That, in my opinion is the root of the problem. It seems that any project, regardless of it?s worth, has complaints, to the degree of law suits. As long as this continues, nothing will ever get done!

You can count me in as complaining. We need a port like we need more resort development. It's a huge waste of money with little to no benefit.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#64
You can count me in as complaining. We need a port like we need more resort development. It's a huge waste of money with little to no benefit.

Then, those who are needing jobs will continue to need jobs, foreclosures will continue, shall I go on? As long as your needs are taken care of, it doesn't matter what happens to anyone else? Regardless of whether it's a port, which by the way, is only a means, or suggestion on how to transport products out, or any other type of business providing our people jobs, you intend to protest to delay any relief? I just wonder whether you could actually tell that to those people to their face, not hiding behind an avatar.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#65
Then, those who are needing jobs will continue to need jobs, foreclosures will continue, shall I go on? As long as your needs are taken care of, it doesn't matter what happens to anyone else? Regardless of whether it's a port, which by the way, is only a means, or suggestion on how to transport products out, or any other type of business providing our people jobs, you intend to protest to delay any relief? I just wonder whether you could actually tell that to those people to their face, not hiding behind an avatar.

Look you're missing the point. A port is not the savior of this county. It would takes years to build and then you would have to actually have freight moving in and out for it to provide jobs. I would much rather see the OWCC annex expedited. That would be a more realistic and timely goal.

As to transporting goods in and out (otherwise you're limited to wood, water, and sand) what's wrong with trucks? Generally a port is used for mass transportation of products and goods. Do you really want industry that huge?

Also you seem to love putting the cart before the horse. How about an industry in the first place. We have two I can think of off hand that aren't asking for a port. We have a plastics plant and Freeport Steel. I'm betting that if either require sea transport they utilize the existing regional port over in Panama City.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#66
Look you're missing the point. A port is not the savior of this county. It would takes years to build and then you would have to actually have freight moving in and out for it to provide jobs. I would much rather see the OWCC annex expedited. That would be a more realistic and timely goal.

As to transporting goods in and out (otherwise you're limited to wood, water, and sand) what's wrong with trucks? Generally a port is used for mass transportation of products and goods. Do you really want industry that huge?

Also you seem to love putting the cart before the horse. How about an industry in the first place. We have two I can think of off hand that aren't asking for a port. We have a plastics plant and Freeport Steel. I'm betting that if either require sea transport they utilize the existing regional port over in Panama City.


SoWal is now considered to be a one industry community. We need to expand, and we need to deal with whatever obstacles might be presented by potential proprietors. I like to think that we could entertain multiple methods of transportation, and industry.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#67
SoWal is now considered to be a one industry community. We need to expand, and we need to deal with whatever obstacles might be presented by potential proprietors. I like to think that we could entertain multiple methods of transportation, and industry.

Well since we're throwing money down the toilet, how about a parallel road to 98, we could double traffic? How about a 4,000 acre international airport? You keep stating that we are missing infrastructure, can you cite one company that has passed on Walton County due to lack of infrastructure?
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#68
Well since we're throwing money down the toilet, how about a parallel road to 98, we could double traffic? How about a 4,000 acre international airport? You keep stating that we are missing infrastructure, can you cite one company that has passed on Walton County due to lack of infrastructure?

Why would we be throwing money away? The port, or whatever, wouldn't be built until needed! What is needed is community support towards alleviating the economic distress by way of bringing in more industry! I'm sure the individual who mentioned this transportation problem would prefer to remain anonymous! As a former tree farmer, trying to get timber cut was like pulling teeth! No one wanted to come across the bridge because of harassment they anticipated by our community!
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#69
As a former tree farmer, trying to get timber cut was like pulling teeth! No one wanted to come across the bridge because of harassment they anticipated by our community!

:idontno: Care to explain that one further?
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#70
:idontno: Care to explain that one further?

They were afraid of being harassed when they would cut the timber. I was working with the county forester. Finally someone stepped up and we did a selective cut. Only one out of 13 companies.

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scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#71
They wouldn't come south of the bay to cut down trees because they thought people would harass them? :idontno:

WHY would people harass them?
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#72
They wouldn't come south of the bay to cut down trees because they thought people would harass them? :idontno:

WHY would people harass them?

Cuse they would be in the woods, with BIG, YELLOW, EQUIPMENT, in SoWal, cutting trees!
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#73
Words fail me when faced with that level of idiocy.

Amazing that we managed to build thousands of new homes on wooded lots with so many eco-terrorists running around harassing people. :roll:

Or do so many controlled forest burns.

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Matt J avatar
SWGB
#74
Just curious, what's wrong with the trees north of the bay? :idontno:
wrobert avatar
Beach Fanatic
#75
Just curious, what's wrong with the trees north of the bay? :idontno:

I would guess that she does not own them, and cutting someone else's trees can get you into a bit of trouble.
Beach Fanatic
#76
I would guess that she does not own them, and cutting someone else's trees can get you into a bit of trouble.


Robert, how dare you bring up pesky details like that.:floor:We tell everybody what they can do with their property these days, why not tell them what they can do with someone else's property?:biggrin:

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