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What are our county leaders doing for us.

Beach Lover
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I don't know very much about gov and how it all works, but are the commissioners just going to let our county slowy die out? Business after business is closing around here with no end in sight. Is there something they can do to attract some business to our area??

We have so much rural area that could be marketed to some kind of larger business. Not another Homedepot, but some manufacturing, shipping, growing, SOMETHING that works ALL YEAR
We have rail service and interstate access in the north. There is supposed to be a new airport in bay county. Seems to me that this should be attractive to some kind of large scale industry around here.

Is there anything our local clowns can do to attract some good jobs here? Or are they just going to rely on vacioners to pay taxes to pay their salaries?
I would like to see people be albe to work year round not just spring break and summer.
I love it here and I want my grandkids to be able to find careers here and stay here, but the future looks very bleak. I know the whole nation is in a tough time, and there is not a lot of new projects anywhere, but are they doing anything to attract some kind of profitable, sustainable year 'round work for us?
I don't want to clean condos, or rent bicycles and kayaks 1/2 the year. I would like to see people WORKING profitably all year. We need some leadership and some action. Are we just going to take this lying down? Are we just going to let nothing happen and our community just go to heck?
If our commissioners are doing something to make this county better for the folks who live here year round I don't know what it is.
If this is the best we have for county gov, then I will be sure to not re-elect any of them. This is a time for action and LEADERSHIP.
Show me something. Make some waves. There is NO reason Walton county cannot be the most financially sound county in NW FL.
WAKE UP COMMISSIONERS, your people need you to lead them.

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Matt J avatar
SWGB
#77
I would guess that she does not own them, and cutting someone else's trees can get you into a bit of trouble.

I was thinking she might have worked for St. Joe when they actually farmed trees. Just seems pointless to spend all the money on having someone cut down trees and then try to sell the wood when it can be gotten much cheaper from tons of other suppliers. :idontno:
wrobert avatar
Beach Fanatic
#78
I was thinking she might have worked for St. Joe when they actually farmed trees. Just seems pointless to spend all the money on having someone cut down trees and then try to sell the wood when it can be gotten much cheaper from tons of other suppliers. :idontno:


Small tract landowners throughout this county make money selling trees off of their land to the pulp wood industry if done at a time when prices are up. I have never sold off any of mine, but they are currently cutting off the tract behind me. Most sale and replant for the next crop 20 years from now. It always seemed to me that by the time you put the money back into cleaning up the huge mess and then replanting, that there is not a lot of profit.

We have to do stuff like that to pay our higher taxes, since the owners of this mini motels seemed to be ducking out.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#79
Small tract landowners throughout this county make money selling trees off of their land to the pulp wood industry if done at a time when prices are up. I have never sold off any of mine, but they are currently cutting off the tract behind me. Most sale and replant for the next crop 20 years from now. It always seemed to me that by the time you put the money back into cleaning up the huge mess and then replanting, that there is not a lot of profit.

We have to do stuff like that to pay our higher taxes, since the owners of this mini motels seemed to be ducking out.

Who's buying it? Smurfit Stone just filed for bankruptcy. Get ready for a development in Millville on the East side of PC.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#80
This was a cerified tree farm in South Walton County, it wasn't pulp wood, it was saw lumber. Reforestation was not necessary, it replanted naturaly.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#81
I was thinking she might have worked for St. Joe when they actually farmed trees. Just seems pointless to spend all the money on having someone cut down trees and then try to sell the wood when it can be gotten much cheaper from tons of other suppliers. :idontno:

No, I didn't work for St. Joe, and no, I didn't spend a dime, they paid me.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#82
The point is SoWal has a reputation for being unreasonably contentious, and making a lot of trouble about nonsense! Need to loosen up!
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#83
I must have missed all those protests when JOE came in and harvested trees. You know back when they were a paper company.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#84
I must have missed all those protests when JOE came in and harvested trees. You know back when they were a paper company.

Actually, before St. Joe began building houses, there weren't many people here to protest.
scooterbug44 avatar
SoWal Expert
#85
Please provide some evidence (even anecdotal) of Sowal folk protesting the cutting down of trees on tree farms/timber acreage for profit.

That is all.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#86
Small tract landowners throughout this county make money selling trees off of their land to the pulp wood industry if done at a time when prices are up. I have never sold off any of mine, but they are currently cutting off the tract behind me. Most sale and replant for the next crop 20 years from now. It always seemed to me that by the time you put the money back into cleaning up the huge mess and then replanting, that there is not a lot of profit.

We have to do stuff like that to pay our higher taxes, since the owners of this mini motels seemed to be ducking out.

In the recent years, trying to get anyone to harvest trees for pulp is more difficult than pulling teeth, b/c there is no money in it for them, even if you give them the trees.
wrobert avatar
Beach Fanatic
#87
In the recent years, trying to get anyone to harvest trees for pulp is more difficult than pulling teeth, b/c there is no money in it for them, even if you give them the trees.


I hate that they are giving all of those away behind my house. It does drive the wildlife toward me though so hunting could be a bit easier.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#88
If they are giving them away, I bet they aren't paying to clean it up and replant, are they?
Beach Crab
#89
Get in the game!

This was an interesting thread to read.

If you want to see change in Walton County, you have to get involved and work for it. A rewarding way to do that is to get involved in county politics. Why not join the South Walton Republican Club? The club is meeting this Wednesday night at the Topsail Racquet Club. It will be a town hall meeting and both our new county commissioner and our new Sheriff will be there. Come join us! You can get all the details at WCREC.
florida girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#91
This was an interesting thread to read.

If you want to see change in Walton County, you have to get involved and work for it. A rewarding way to do that is to get involved in county politics. Why not join the South Walton Republican Club? The club is meeting this Wednesday night at the Topsail Racquet Club. It will be a town hall meeting and both our new county commissioner and our new Sheriff will be there. Come join us! You can get all the details at WCREC.

I think spending that kind of money for a meal is ludicrous! Why not just give it to some charity? I'm sure the Caring and Sharing would be more than happy to receive your donation!
ShallowsNole avatar
Beach Fanatic
#93
I think spending that kind of money for a meal is ludicrous! Why not just give it to some charity? I'm sure the Caring and Sharing would be more than happy to receive your donation!

If you haven't spent $22 on a meal at a restaurant lately, you haven't been out much.
beachmouse avatar
Beach Fanatic
#94
We've got a local circuit of eating well while eating out, and it never comes out to more than about $17/head including tax, tip, and soft drinks. In some cases like Jasmine Thai, we're out the door for $21 for both of us.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#95
If I were to guess, I'd say part of the charge for the meal is a donation to the Republican Club. Regardless, I'm going as there will be a question and answer session for Cecilia Jones and Mike Atkinson. If it is a donation that is fine because between Rush Limbaugh and President Obama the moderate Republicans need all the help they can get.
Beach LoverAuthor
#96
Well,
I haven't had time to check on this forum in a few days because I have been too busy involving myself in local government.
first I noticed a story in the walton sun about the difficulties faced with doing business in walton county.
Then I noticed a story about a company that wants to build a plant to use our landfill garbage to make fuels and electricity.
then I noticed a story on the news about bay county commissioners forming a committe to ACTIVELY find businesses to come to bay county.
so after 4 pages of drivel to my original post................I ask again,
What is it exactly that our county commissioners are doing to make our county work???
I think it would be a miracle if the waste plant actually comes to our county, I am certain it will not. But I assure you that I will do exactly what was recomended to me by the replys to this post. I will get involved and make sure I have done everything I can to get our gov't to get some damn employers in this county and perhaps make a real change here.
One more thing, Someone postedthat wlaton county has some of the lowest unemployment numbers in the state. Do you know why?
Because those numbers come from people seeking unemployemnt insurance. Most workers in walton are not eligible. Self-employed, or under-employed, or working under the table makes you uneliglable to unemployment. That's why our numbers are low.

I do not make this argument for myself. I am ok. As long as I can work I will work. I just refuse to be unemployed or not earning money.
But I worry about my son. He cannot find work. And soon my grandkids will not be able to find work. THAT IS WHO I AM WORRIED ABOUT. I do not whine for myself. I am veyr concerned about others in this county.
How many businesses on 30-a have closed since the first of the year? I know of 4 and know more will shut down before the season starts.
I'll get involved, but I can't do squat on my own. You clowns should practice what you preach.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#97
Well,
I haven't had time to check on this forum in a few days because I have been too busy involving myself in local government.
first I noticed a story in the walton sun about the difficulties faced with doing business in walton county.
Then I noticed a story about a company that wants to build a plant to use our landfill garbage to make fuels and electricity.
then I noticed a story on the news about bay county commissioners forming a committe to ACTIVELY find businesses to come to bay county.
so after 4 pages of drivel to my original post................I ask again,
What is it exactly that our county commissioners are doing to make our county work???
I think it would be a miracle if the waste plant actually comes to our county, I am certain it will not. But I assure you that I will do exactly what was recomended to me by the replys to this post. I will get involved and make sure I have done everything I can to get our gov't to get some damn employers in this county and perhaps make a real change here.
One more thing, Someone postedthat wlaton county has some of the lowest unemployment numbers in the state. Do you know why?
Because those numbers come from people seeking unemployemnt insurance. Most workers in walton are not eligible. Self-employed, or under-employed, or working under the table makes you uneliglable to unemployment. That's why our numbers are low.

I do not make this argument for myself. I am ok. As long as I can work I will work. I just refuse to be unemployed or not earning money.
But I worry about my son. He cannot find work. And soon my grandkids will not be able to find work. THAT IS WHO I AM WORRIED ABOUT. I do not whine for myself. I am veyr concerned about others in this county.
How many businesses on 30-a have closed since the first of the year? I know of 4 and know more will shut down before the season starts.
I'll get involved, but I can't do squat on my own. You clowns should practice what you preach.

Well why don't you go "do" whatever it is that you are going to "do" and leave us clowns alone.

Sorry you didn't get the immediate load of quality responses you expected, but you did say bloody florida girl in the mirror three times and look what you got.

Please educate us ignorants about what we can do to help.

P.S. Provide jobs is not an acceptable answer.
Beach Comber
#98
There are industrial zoned properties located on the intracoastal waterway, currently.

I think that old concrete plant on Peach Creek is zoned industrial. The county spent ungodly amounts of money to try to tell the property owners it wasn't industrial, but I think that after a frivolous $$$$ lawsuit from the county it was determined that it was Industrial.:bang::blink:

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Beach Fanatic
#99
What the commissioner's are doing for you was in the Walton Sun yesterday.
They are reducing traffic concurrancy fees so developers can build more of what is already overbuilt.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#100
What the commissioner's are doing for you was in the Walton Sun yesterday.
They are reducing traffic concurrancy fees so developers can build more of what is already overbuilt.
Amen, Busta Hustle, and what we don't need is a reduction of fees for building stuff that doesn't need to be built in the first place.
Beach Fanatic
#101
What the commissioner's are doing for you was in the Walton Sun yesterday.
They are reducing traffic concurrancy fees so developers can build more of what is already overbuilt.

Ye Gods! I saw this and wondered if anyone could explain the reasoning to me....glad to see others are questioning it too.

I could see freeing up money to build roads, repair roads and bridges, etc....but more development to go with what is already sitting here wastin' away.....please people, get real!

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