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turtle watch volunteer arrested

dmarie avatar
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The Walton County Sheriff’s Office arrested a Seagrove Beach resident on three-counts of criminal mischief on June 15, 2009.
Witnesses say 57-year-old, Mary Elizabeth Brady overturned and destroyed several canopy tents by cutting the material on the tents. These incidents took place on Friday, June 12 in the AM, on the beach behind Beachcrest Condominiums on County Road 30A.
Ms. Brady was also seen puncturing and destroying floats at the same location.
Witnesses say Ms. Brady is a Turtle Watch volunteer. Ms. Brady denied that she had caused the damage. There are several victims in the matter.
The criminal mischief charges are misdemeanors.
Ms. Brady was booked into the Walton County Jail and given a total bond of $1500.00. Ms. Brady has bonded out at this time awaiting a July 23rd court date.

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Minnie avatar
Beach Fanatic
#277
I too, have heard one, but only one, Realtor shouting that the owner had full rights to all their property. The only problem with that particular Realtor is that he/she is not an attorney, but sounded as though he/she was giving legal consultation. Property rights are not determined by Realtors. ;-)

Exactly and you realize that and I do too, but the average person buying property is going to trust that local realtor.

Many when looking at a million dollar sale are going to tell the buyer what they want to hear instead of the truth.

Also if you call around and get info from some of the local beachfront associations about renting, they are spreading some untruths also about beach usage and cleanup.

I was specifically told that I could leave my stuff on the beach during my entire stay and it would be fine. Certainly I would not do that, but it was interesting that a local would be promoting this.

And again it comes down to money, the agent was more interested in my renting and less about the beach.
ASH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#278
I can think of exceptions to that rule -- garbage. People are constantly taking other's property when they pick up garbage. You may be missing the point that many people leave their crap on the beach, even when they are heading back to where ever they live, thinking that others may be able to use it.

Exactly why this guy has now stopped picking up garbage. I'm going to sit back and watch the beaches go to hell and when the tourists stop coming to the red-neck riveria, then the county will stand up and do what they should have done long ago.
Come to think of it, if the tourists stop coming here, then they won't be bringing tents and chairs and garbage and then the beaches will eventually clean themselves. Hmmmmmm......:roll:
ASH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#279
...the TDC would NEVER let that happen...Hey! Maybe we can blackmail them by threatening to send the portfolio of photos to the St Pete Times (local papers wouldn't post the story) unless they get off their collective arses and do some serious cracking down on the overnight and abandoned beach crap and scrap.

This was tried at the local level. Several people gathered photos early in the morning and for several days, they were sent to local officials in an attempt to get their attention to how bad it was getting. Last I heard, the person who was sending in the photos was blocked from being able to send emails to county officials. How's that for a response folks from your elected officials?
:bang::bang:
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#281
It is all about money.

The only reason that the ordiance to keep the beaches clean is not being enforced is that they are afraid to offend a paying guest that wants to be lazy and leave their crap on the beach overnight.

And years ago it probably was not that big of a problem for two reasons. One fewer people came to the area and people were just generally more responsible and caring about the impact their actions have on the area.

Now you have more visitors and more that simply do not care. Until the county truly begins to care, it is not going to improve. You can educate all you want but those willing to be educated are not the ones causing the problems.

A fine is a great idea on paper but will have no effect without enforcement and therein lies the problem.

I disagree with your premise. Having clean beaches will attract more tourists, and that is the number one thing on the TDC's list -- attracting more tourists. It will take less than one season to educate people, if it is done everyday, without exception, along the entire length of the beach. In my opinion, at first, people will balk, but in the end, they will appreciate the correction.
Minnie avatar
Beach Fanatic
#282
I disagree with your premise. Having clean beaches will attract more tourists, and that is the number one thing on the TDC's list -- attracting more tourists. It will take less than one season to educate people, if it is done everyday, without exception, along the entire length of the beach. In my opinion, at first, people will balk, but in the end, they will appreciate the correction.

Oh I agree, but I not sure those making the decisions are. Because truly if they believed that, why are they not doing it. :idontno:

Either it is money they don't want to spend to enforce the codes, or money they fear they will lose by offending someone.

Either way it is always about money. I know you can have clean beaches and make money from tourists, I visit too many other beach areas in the country that do not have these problems and see clean beaches and plenty of tourists.

But the TDC is going to have to be convinced of this.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#283
You need a picture that can convey the gravity of the situation without all the captions. Unless I know that stuff has been there a while, it's difficult to be outraged, I'm just being honest. It certainly doesn't look like a major eyesore. For me at least it doesn't have the impact.

Sorry that you find the words on the photo more distracting than I find all of the crap on the beach. Those are just words. How about you walk down to the beach and see for yourself if you live near South Walton. (I think that everyone should get off their lazy-schtick and go to the beach in the morning, to see with their own eyes. You will be shocked, I'm sure. Photos really don't capture the magnitude of the crap left on the beaches. I can take plenty of close up photos, but posting all of them would lose impact. Go see for yourself.
ASH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#284
Oh I agree, but I not sure those making the decisions are. Because truly if they believed that, why are they not doing it. :idontno:

Either it is money they don't want to spend to enforce the codes, or money they fear they will lose by offending someone.

Either way it is always about money. I know you can have clean beaches and make money from tourists, I visit too many other beach areas in the country that do not have these problems and see clean beaches and plenty of tourists.

But the TDC is going to have to be convinced of this.

The TDC is not the problem. They were enforcing stuff being left on the beaches. It's the Sheriff department and lawyers that put the halt on picking things up. That needs to be clear. The TDC would do their job if they could.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#285
Oh I agree, but I not sure those making the decisions are. Because truly if they believed that, why are they not doing it. :idontno:

Either it is money they don't want to spend to enforce the codes, or money they fear they will lose by offending someone.

Either way it is always about money. I know you can have clean beaches and make money from tourists, I visit too many other beach areas in the country that do not have these problems and see clean beaches and plenty of tourists.

But the TDC is going to have to be convinced of this.

I'm not certain, but I don't think it is the TDC who is responsible for the non-enforcement issue. I believe it is the Interim County Attorney who has contacted the Attorney General's Office for their opinion on the legalities of the County Ordinance. It sounds to me as there is question to the legality of the Ordinance as written, so they are suspending collection of crap on the beach until further notice.
BeachSiO2 avatar
Beach Fanatic
#286
I'm not certain, but I don't think it is the TDC who is responsible for the non-enforcement issue. I believe it is the Interim County Attorney who has contacted the Attorney General's Office for their opinion on the legalities of the County Ordinance. It sounds to me as there is question to the legality of the Ordinance as written, so they are suspending collection of crap on the beach until further notice.

From an earlier discussion/thread:

http://www.sowal.com/bb/local-government/36096-county-removing-articles-beach.html#post568252
Beach Lover
#287
:clap:

This is laughable to me since, if I recall correctly, there was a Republican rally locally that had a pinata of Obama's head that was bashed in front of children. Do you condone bashing an effigy vs. the illegal tear down of inanimate objects left illegally on a beach? I also do not see anything in the article stating she did this is front of her children or grandchildren.
Here4Good avatar
Beach Fanatic
#288
I believe it is the Interim County Attorney who has contacted the Attorney General's Office for their opinion on the legalities of the County Ordinance.

Does anyone else think it's time we hired an actual county attorney?
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#289
here4good, I used to think the same thing, but given the history of some of the other County Attorney's, names withheld, maybe attorney, Mike Burke and team isn't so bad. I don't agree with some of the things they do/say, but they do represent the County as needed. Personally, I think it is good practice to make laws which are Constitutional, so if that is in question in this particular Ordinance, I think the Interim County Attorney is doing the right thing -- protecting the County's interest.
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#290
Does anyone else think it's time we hired an actual county attorney?
Yep.
LuciferSam avatar
Banned
#291
Sorry that you find the words on the photo more distracting than I find all of the crap on the beach. Those are just words. How about you walk down to the beach and see for yourself if you live near South Walton. (I think that everyone should get off their lazy-schtick and go to the beach in the morning, to see with their own eyes. You will be shocked, I'm sure. Photos really don't capture the magnitude of the crap left on the beaches. I can take plenty of close up photos, but posting all of them would lose impact. Go see for yourself.

SJ, I'm not knocking you for captioning the photo, I'm just saying that it's difficult to produce an impact photo. Indeed I'm sure you have to be there. However, you'll never see me up that early. No way no how. :eek: That's just me. You morning people are insane.;-) No I am going start walking the beaches, and your message is not lost. :wave:
LuciferSam avatar
Banned
#292
Littering on the feeder roads to 30A (also Scenic Hwy) carries a fine up to $500 per incident. Why the hell are our beaches not also protected like this? Seems to me that the biggest reason why our roads are designated as "scenic" is because they are the route to some of the prettiest beaches in the world. Leaving your crap on the beach overnight should be considered "littering" and should carry a fine at least as heavy as those issued for littering on the roads getting to the beach, IF NOT GREATER. The only problem with that is enforcement, because no one in their right mind is going to be laying claim to a $99 canopy and three year old plastic chairs with rusty frames, in exchange for a $500 fine. But, at least then, the abandoned property would really be abandoned as no owner is laying claim.

...and for the absent-minded yahoo who happens to leave his Rolex watch in the ice cooler on the beach overnight, he could lay claim to his watch and pay the $500 fine for littering and reclaim his watch.

I think if you impose a fine, then people are going to be much more likely to leave their stuff. Really how do you catch people leaving stuff on the beach? Do you have people on beach patrol scoping out tourists? If I leave my chair for a while to go for a walk, does that make me a person of interest? I'm just pointing out real problems that need to be addressed.
kathydwells avatar
Darlene is my middle name, not my nickname
#293
SJ, I'm not knocking you for captioning the photo, I'm just saying that it's difficult to produce an impact photo. Indeed I'm sure you have to be there. However, you'll never see me up that early. No way no how. :eek: That's just me. You morning people are insane.;-) No I am going start walking the beaches, and your message is not lost. :wave:

It made a pretty big impact on me.
ASH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#294
Photos from this morning



Here's a photo I took near the Draper Lake Outfall just after 6 this morning. Click on the picture and it will take you to a larger image as well as four other pictures also taken this morning on my turtle walk. I didn't know how to dump all 5 photos in here at once.

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Here4Good avatar
Beach Fanatic
#295
Dramatic photos, ASH. I can't imagine how much of this would become airborne if we had a nice thunderstorm overnight, and would end up either in the gulf or a quarter-mile away.

I guess when one of these missiles ends up crashing through someone's gulf front patio door it will become an issue.
Mango avatar
SoWal Insider
#296
Well, this just ruined my lunch. :pissed:

sunspotbaby avatar
SoWal Insider
#297


Here's a photo I took near the Draper Lake Outfall just after 6 this morning. Click on the picture and it will take you to a larger image as well as four other pictures also taken this morning on my turtle walk. I didn't know how to dump all 5 photos in here at once.

:yikes: Just after 6 this morning!! :bang:

What kind of moron takes a pool ??

That's like taking sand to the beach. :idontno:

At any rate, the county will need a lot of trucks when they finally decide to haul off this junk.
sunspotbaby avatar
SoWal Insider
#298
Dramatic photos, ASH. I can't imagine how much of this would become airborne if we had a nice thunderstorm overnight, and would end up either in the gulf or a quarter-mile away.

I guess when one of these missiles ends up crashing through someone's gulf front patio door it will become an issue.

Good point, Mother Nature will ensure that the beach will remain public. Wonder how those gulf front owners *****ing about property rights are liking their view now.:blink:
CampCreekLou avatar
Beach Lover
#299


Here's a photo I took near the Draper Lake Outfall just after 6 this morning. Click on the picture and it will take you to a larger image as well as four other pictures also taken this morning on my turtle walk. I didn't know how to dump all 5 photos in here at once.

That is unbelievable.

(The pictures, not the fact that you can't dump 5 photos in here at once ;-) )
Beach Fanatic
#300
and disgusting.

Have these people no regard for anyone other that themselves?

Can't believe that if I owned a Gulf Front property I would be happy about seeing this from my porch when I woke up....
Arkiehawg avatar
Beach Fanatic
#301
:angry:Turdists:angry:

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