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turtle watch volunteer arrested

dmarie avatar
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The Walton County Sheriff’s Office arrested a Seagrove Beach resident on three-counts of criminal mischief on June 15, 2009.
Witnesses say 57-year-old, Mary Elizabeth Brady overturned and destroyed several canopy tents by cutting the material on the tents. These incidents took place on Friday, June 12 in the AM, on the beach behind Beachcrest Condominiums on County Road 30A.
Ms. Brady was also seen puncturing and destroying floats at the same location.
Witnesses say Ms. Brady is a Turtle Watch volunteer. Ms. Brady denied that she had caused the damage. There are several victims in the matter.
The criminal mischief charges are misdemeanors.
Ms. Brady was booked into the Walton County Jail and given a total bond of $1500.00. Ms. Brady has bonded out at this time awaiting a July 23rd court date.

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ASH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#302
:yikes: Just after 6 this morning!! :bang:

When you go to the other four pictures, the one with the big hole dug you will note the sun just coming over the top of the home in the Retreat. Sun rises about quarter to six. I did that intentionally, because I doubt someone ran out there and started digging at 5 to beat sunup. It was dug at least the day before.

I wouldn't blame all this on tourists. I would guess there are owners who come down to their summer home once the kids are out of school.
Arkiehawg avatar
Beach Fanatic
#303
"I wouldn't blame all this on tourists. I would guess there are owners who come down to their summer home once the kids are out of school."


You are probably correct based on the location. I would imagine that these are the same "environmentalist" who hire rent-a-pigs to keep the evil poor folk off of "their" beach......:pissed:
Minnie avatar
Beach Fanatic
#304
SJ and Ash thanks for the clarification. I was told it was the TDC dragging their feet and not wanting the enforcement of the ordinance, so I guess its a situation of depending on who you talk to, someone else gets the blame.

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Walton Outdoors avatar
Beach Fanatic
#305
I spoke with Tracy Louthain from the TDC yesterday and she said the county is in the process of rewriting "Leave No Trace," and hopes are that the program will be reinstated soon (let's hope before someone gets hurt from the garbage left on the beach or before the end of turtle season). There was a lawsuit brought against the County from a condominium (sorry no details if it was an owner or an association), so they are doing a rewrite. Crossing there T's and dotting their i's this go-round I'm guessing.
The future will bring Code Enforcement as the enforcers of the "Leave No Trace" program, and the TDC will have what Tracy called "Ambassadors" combing the beaches each day and educating the beach goers.
ASH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#306
I spoke with Tracy Louthain from the TDC yesterday and she said the county is in the process of rewriting "Leave No Trace," and hopes are that the program will be reinstated soon (let's hope before someone gets hurt from the garbage left on the beach or before the end of turtle season). There was a lawsuit brought against the County from a condominium (sorry no details if it was an owner or an association), so they are doing a rewrite. Crossing there T's and dotting their i's this go-round I'm guessing.
The future will bring Code Enforcement as the enforcers of the "Leave No Trace" program, and the TDC will have what Tracy called "Ambassadors" combing the beaches each day and educating the beach goers.

This sounds like wonderful news! :clap:

I would venture to guess that 95% of the problem is nothing more than education. The bad apples set a bad example that the unknowing take to be acceptable.
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#307
FYI- I am pretty sure the lawsuit came from Edgewater condominium, regarding their beach volleyball net, permanently planted on the beach. The lady from Edgewater spoke at the public hearing of this Ordinance, when proposed, and she stated on record, that she would be suing the County if she wasn't allowed to keep her volleyball net on the beach. She was completely happy with the Ordinance as written, as long as her volleyball net would be exempt via the County issuing a permit for variance of that item.
Interested Girl avatar
Beach Fanatic
#308
One more time !

Hope that darned old constitution doesn't get in the way again.

The Ambassadors is a new twist - Why not call them "Beach Czars" - seems to be a popular thing right now - Pay Czars, Bike Path Czars and the like.
Walton Outdoors avatar
Beach Fanatic
#309
ASH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#310
Hey, does she have a permit to have that bike on the beach? Call the Beach Czar!!
:lolabove:
Smiling JOe avatar
SoWal Expert
#311
If people did the right thing in the first place, there wouldn't be need for legislation.
Joyce Owen avatar
SoWal Staff
#312
Old but good idea

One more time !

Hope that darned old constitution doesn't get in the way again.

The Ambassadors is a new twist - Why not call them "Beach Czars" - seems to be a popular thing right now - Pay Czars, Bike Path Czars and the like.

Actually it's an old idea that the TDC tried a few years back. Volunteers would be trained to educate visitors on the beach. There were calls for folks to give a few hours a week to do it. Unfortunatelly getting enough volunteers was the problem.
I think this might be a solution until the ordinance is approved.
ASH avatar
Beach Fanatic
#313
I'm going to predict that this thread will set a new SoWal record for the most views and comments--and it will do it before the month is out.

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I don't know. That Random Thoughts Thread in the Lounge has been going since May of 2007 and has over 4,300 reply's and over 36,000 views. :yikes:

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Bobby J avatar
Beach Fanatic
#314
If people did the right thing in the first place, there wouldn't be need for legislation.

I think if you remove all the legislation and let the locals run the show, we would get the trash off the beach much quicker. I say about one week and this issue would be resolved.
Beach Fanatic
#315
I think the Beach Ambassadors program is a great idea...I believe it was mentioned on here some time ago.

In New Orleans the tourist office used to have --not sure after Katrina-- young people on the streets with maps, information, directions, available to answer questions from tourists. They are always super helpful, very friendly, seem to enjoy their job and even sometimes give out discount coupons from local restaurants and attractions. I think it is a value added component to the NOLA tourism and visitors bureau's effort.

Here, perhaps we could educate our visitors about not only keeping litter and abandoned stuff off the beach overnight, but also let them know about the turtle nesting, the coastal dune lakes, and the rip currents. All in all, it sounds like a win-win to me.

Maybe the locals who routinely pick up trash, could become a bit more organized and then let folks know about Adopt a Beach and Leave no Trace and get more members of the community involved in a meaningful way.
Walton Outdoors avatar
Beach Fanatic
#316
Actually it's an old idea that the TDC tried a few years back. Volunteers would be trained to educate visitors on the beach. There were calls for folks to give a few hours a week to do it. Unfortunatelly getting enough volunteers was the problem.
I think this might be a solution until the ordinance is approved.

It is my understanding that the "beach ambassadors" will be this AFTER the new revision of the ordinance is approved. A collaboration with Code Enforcement of sorts. I could be wrong, but this was my interpretation.
SHELLY avatar
SoWal Insider
#317
I think if you remove all the legislation and let the locals run the show, we would get the trash off the beach much quicker. I say about one week and this issue would be resolved.

I agree....my solution is to declare everything left on the beach between 7pm and 6am as "booty" -- free for the pickin'. Call it the "Move-it or Lose-it" program; post it on signs and have a banner plane fly over the beaches each evening at 6:50pm. Savvy entrepreneurs will be lined up at the beach entrances each night like ladies at Macys on Dec 26. The beaches will be cleared of junk every night at 7:05pm...problem solved.
Carol G avatar
Beach Fanatic
#318
I agree....my solution is to declare everything left on the beach between 7pm and 6am as "booty" -- free for the pickin'. Call it the "Move-it or Lose-it" program; post it on signs and have a banner plane fly over the beaches each evening at 6:50pm. Savvy entrepreneurs will be lined up at the beach entrances each night like ladies at Macys on Dec 26. The beaches will be cleared of junk every night at 7:05pm...problem solved.

I agree. Some enterprising folks will invest their time and energy and vehicles collecting all this crap without destroying it, and then reselling it for a profit. All we need is the ordinance in place, the government can step out of it after that. Unless someone is actively using the property, it is considered abandoned after 7 pm.

Private property owners should have the option of permitting their stuff, as long as they can prove that it is safely anchored and will not become an airborne missile or otherwise hazardous to public safety. Permitted objects need to be clearly marked, and private property owners need some sort of option for legal recourse if their property is mistakenly taken. And they should be required to insure it, as they would any other personal property. I know, these are the tricky, sticky points, but I also know a solution can be found, it might just take a bit of compromise on EVERYONE'S part.

I love the turtles, but we need to leave them out of it. It seemed like a smart idea to bring mice and turtles and all sorts of endangered species into all of these environmental arguments a couple decades ago, because it gets the governments attention and funding... but the real problem is the narcissistic, egotistical and disrespectful attitudes that have developed and are prevalent in our society today. It seems everyone has forgotten how to be respectful of all the rest of the people sharing this planet, and if we can't respect each other, we certainly aren't going to be able to respect a turtle or a mouse.

We ALL deserve a little piece of this beach paradise, each and every one of us. Owners, renters, locals, tourists, rich, poor, people, turtles... The only price is to treat it with respect. Yet so many today are such gluttons they have no idea how to gracefully accept that little piece, and respectfully share the rest with everyone else.

Those photos are sickening, I had no idea it was so bad. I stopped for several groups of people today crossing from the south side to the north side of 30A, carrying floaties and chairs and wheeling wagons full of stuff back home with them. I wanted to get out and hug each one of them.
wrobert avatar
Beach Fanatic
#319
I agree....my solution is to declare everything left on the beach between 7pm and 6am as "booty" -- free for the pickin'. Call it the "Move-it or Lose-it" program; post it on signs and have a banner plane fly over the beaches each evening at 6:50pm. Savvy entrepreneurs will be lined up at the beach entrances each night like ladies at Macys on Dec 26. The beaches will be cleared of junk every night at 7:05pm...problem solved.


Damn! You do know how to shift a thread to the left.
wrobert avatar
Beach Fanatic
#320
I agree. Some enterprising folks will invest their time and energy and vehicles collecting all this crap without destroying it, and then reselling it for a profit. All we need is the ordinance in place, the government can step out of it after that. Unless someone is actively using the property, it is considered abandoned after 7 pm.

Private property owners should have the option of permitting their stuff, as long as they can prove that it is safely anchored and will not become an airborne missile or otherwise hazardous to public safety. Permitted objects need to be clearly marked, and private property owners need some sort of option for legal recourse if their property is mistakenly taken. And they should be required to insure it, as they would any other personal property. I know, these are the tricky, sticky points, but I also know a solution can be found, it might just take a bit of compromise on EVERYONE'S part.

I love the turtles, but we need to leave them out of it. It seemed like a smart idea to bring mice and turtles and all sorts of endangered species into all of these environmental arguments a couple decades ago, because it gets the governments attention and funding... but the real problem is the narcissistic, egotistical and disrespectful attitudes that have developed and are prevalent in our society today. It seems everyone has forgotten how to be respectful of all the rest of the people sharing this planet, and if we can't respect each other, we certainly aren't going to be able to respect a turtle or a mouse.

We ALL deserve a little piece of this beach paradise, each and every one of us. Owners, renters, locals, tourists, rich, poor, people, turtles... The only price is to treat it with respect. Yet so many today are such gluttons they have no idea how to gracefully accept that little piece, and respectfully share the rest with everyone else.

Those photos are sickening, I had no idea it was so bad. I stopped for several groups of people today crossing from the south side to the north side of 30A, carrying floaties and chairs and wheeling wagons full of stuff back home with them. I wanted to get out and hug each one of them.


An umbrella was blown up the other day in Australia striking a tourist in the hand resulting in his death. So I still think we need to just go ahead and ban them completely. Totally too dangerous for meer mortals to use.

As for the other, the idea works great on the public part of the beach. But the private part would never happen. That is the problem now, making special rules for the private property owners that everyone seems to enjoy sucking tax dollars from, but abhors the fact that they own something that most can not afford.
wrobert avatar
Beach Fanatic
#321
more on my obsession

As has been pointed out I am bit bothered by the no bid contract to turtle watch. Especially when I find out that in 2007, $43,143 was paid out of the $80K I am assuming that they received that year in employee compensation. And that those dollars did not appear to go to volunteers who are giving their hours walking up and down the beach trying to save the turtles, but actually went to 3 members of the board of directors of the organization. Personally, I think something is fishy, and it ain't the turtles.


Those dollars should be going directly to getting more people on the beaches to accomplish their mission. That would be some change I could believe in.
Walton Outdoors avatar
Beach Fanatic
#322
I think if you remove all the legislation and let the locals run the show, we would get the trash off the beach much quicker. I say about one week and this issue would be resolved.

whoa... deja vu!
NewUrbanGirl avatar
Beach Lover
#323
I think a little proactive message is also appropriate. Until the new ordinance is written and approved, I am sending out (and have been since I received it in the mail several weeks ago) the attached document to EVERY renter that stays at our property. I feel it's my job to get them this information. I send them this and the Seymour Safety crab flyer, among other items. It's a cruddy copy, as my scanner is not the best, but it gets the point across. Hopefully. Feel free to use this for your renters as well.
Carol G avatar
Beach Fanatic
#324
I think a little proactive message is also appropriate. Until the new ordinance is written and approved, I am sending out (and have been since I received it in the mail several weeks ago) the attached document to EVERY renter that stays at our property. I feel it's my job to get them this information. I send them this and the Seymour Safety crab flyer, among other items. It's a cruddy copy, as my scanner is not the best, but it gets the point across. Hopefully. Feel free to use this for your renters as well.


Awesome, thank you! I wonder if local businesses would be willing to post this in highly visible spots, especially the ones that sell beach stuff... I dunno how much it will help, but it can't hurt!
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#325


Here's a photo I took near the Draper Lake Outfall just after 6 this morning. Click on the picture and it will take you to a larger image as well as four other pictures also taken this morning on my turtle walk. I didn't know how to dump all 5 photos in here at once.

ASH, your photos are appreciated but I have to say they make me want to grab a Louisville Slugger and something sharp and go to town. What a freaking disgrace;what kind of lazy, trashy, foul, rude, arrogant, vile person would leave that junk on the beach? It looks like something the Germans might have constructed in anticipation of D-Day!:bang:

:yikes: Just after 6 this morning!! :bang:

What kind of moron takes a pool ??

That's like taking sand to the beach. :idontno:

At any rate, the county will need a lot of trucks when they finally decide to haul off this junk.

They make great baby sitters for the slob parents who are too busy wasting away to Margaritaville to be bothered with wee little distractions.
Jdarg avatar
SoWal Expert
#326
As has been pointed out I am bit bothered by the no bid contract to turtle watch. Especially when I find out that in 2007, $43,143 was paid out of the $80K I am assuming that they received that year in employee compensation. And that those dollars did not appear to go to volunteers who are giving their hours walking up and down the beach trying to save the turtles, but actually went to 3 members of the board of directors of the organization. Personally, I think something is fishy, and it ain't the turtles.


Those dollars should be going directly to getting more people on the beaches to accomplish their mission. That would be some change I could believe in.

Good grief, do you ever take a break from trying to get a rise out of somebody?

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