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Beach vehicle permit ordinance changes

Yzarctoo avatar
YzarctooBeach Fanatic
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It's on the agenda.

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scooterbug44 avatar
scooterbug44SoWal Expert
#52
The proposed amendment to the beach driving ordinance (see post 26) was approved last night with minor changes. So, aside from the maximum 20 beach driving permits for charter boat operators, once the amendment takes effect no new beach driving permits are going to be issued. Existing permit holders will be able to get their permits renewed as long as they meet the conditions set in the amendment and ordinance. Also there will be a maximum of one permit for each piece of property owned in the county, and there will be a requirement that there is a habitable structure on the property. The county attorney said the amendment would take effect within about 10 days of the Jan. 12 approval. The commissioners said they would consider revising the regulations in the fall, so that more people would be able to get beach driving permits, once they see how much this amendment reduces the number of permits.

The fur is going to fly on that one! :popcorn:
Teresa avatar
TeresaSoWal Guide
#53
The proposed amendment to the beach driving ordinance (see post 26) was approved last night with minor changes. So, aside from the maximum 20 beach driving permits for charter boat operators, once the amendment takes effect no new beach driving permits are going to be issued. Existing permit holders will be able to get their permits renewed as long as they meet the conditions set in the amendment and ordinance. Also there will be a maximum of one permit for each piece of property owned in the county, and there will be a requirement that there is a habitable structure on the property. The county attorney said the amendment would take effect within about 10 days of the Jan. 12 approval. The commissioners said they would consider revising the regulations in the fall, so that more people would be able to get beach driving permits, once they see how much this amendment reduces the number of permits.

I like it. all of it. this means that the number of permits will fall off immediately, but then the numbers will fall off gradually. and someday we may not have them at all.
scooterbug44 avatar
scooterbug44SoWal Expert
#54
I think that if you own property and have a habitable home on it you should still be able to get a permit.

Think this is a good way to deal with it right now though.
Topsail Transplant avatar
Topsail TransplantBeach Lover
#55
Too far?

I was at the meeting and had the impression that they don't want permits and this is their way of getting rid of them. They said they would be able to revisit it in the future should the need arise, but my opinion (for what that's worth) is that they don't want them at all. :shock:

The interesting thing, too, is that if you forget to pay your ad valorem taxes or forget to renew your permit during a 2-month window, you will not be able to renew AT ALL. :yikes:

Also, if you pass away, your family will NOT be able to renew and keep it in the family. :angry:

By the way, those interested in having a permit have LESS THAN 10 DAYS to get one or YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET A PERMIT UNTIL AND UNLESS THEY CHANGE THE ORDINANCE. Don't see that happening. :bang:

I know that some folks don't want anyone to have a permit to drive on the beach, and I can understand that.... but used responsibly, I think this is/was a wonderful thing to be able to do.

Anyway, glad I remembered to renew mine! :wave:

TT
Topsail Transplant avatar
Topsail TransplantBeach Lover
#56
Less than 10 days for beach access permits!

This is discussed in another post, but I wanted to make sure everyone was aware of this.....

After a new ordinance goes in to effect in about 10 DAYS:

NO NEW BEACH ACCESS PERMITS WILL BE PROVIDED/ALLOWED

Those who want the ability to drive on to the beach by the current regulations must obtain a permit BEFORE the new ordinance goes in to effect.

Those with existing permits who allow them to expire or who fail to meet one of the criteria (paying your taxes, etc.) will NOT be able to renew permits at a later date.

They are not transferable, even upon death to a family member.

Last Chance!

Just thought you might want to know. :idontno:

TT
Smiling JOe avatar
Smiling JOeSoWal Expert
#57
and then you need to buy your next one in June.
gmarcBeach Fanatic
#59
i just got my permit last week, for anyone who has a sticker i have 2 questions.will i get a renewal letter in the mail? if not whens the earliest i can renew? also if i change trucks midway threw the year or even on the renewal date do i keep the same permit #?also do they charge me if i change trucks during the year?hell this will be like a masters ticket.lol.over the years the # of permits will fall big time as people move or forget to renew. also i just read the article. it says the law goes in affect today. does that mean nobody can get one over the next 120 days?they said 820 so permits are available. if the door is still open how can the # be right if people still signing up?also it says people who have permits in the last year are eligle to get a renewal. does that mean ANYONE WHO HAS A PERMIT CAN RENEW EVEN IF THEY JUST GOT IT RECENTLY?

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Kurt avatar
KurtAdmin
#60
i just got my permit last week, for anyone who has a sticker i have 2 questions.will i get a renewal letter in the mail? if not whens the earliest i can renew? also if i change trucks midway threw the year or even on the renewal date do i keep the same permit #?also do they charge me if i change trucks during the year?hell this will be like a masters ticket.lol.over the years the # of permits will fall big time as people move or forget to renew

You won't get a remider. I think earliest renewal is fairly close to June 1. If you change vehicles after renewal you have to have the county transfer the permit and they will give you a new sticker, and there is a small charge. No extra charge if you change at renewal time.
miznotebook avatar
miznotebookBeach Fanatic
#61
The 816 permits had been the original recommendation because, according to the attorney, that was the number of existing permits on the day of the meeting. He changed his recommendation to the number of existing permits at the effective date of the ordinance, which would likely be a different number. So the 816 number was not in the amendment as it was finally approved.

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Just Curious avatar
Just CuriousBeach Fanatic
#62
I was at the meeting and had the impression that they don't want permits and this is their way of getting rid of them. They said they would be able to revisit it in the future should the need arise, but my opinion (for what that's worth) is that they don't want them at all. :shock:

The interesting thing, too, is that if you forget to pay your ad valorem taxes or forget to renew your permit during a 2-month window, you will not be able to renew AT ALL. :yikes:

Also, if you pass away, your family will NOT be able to renew and keep it in the family. :angry:

By the way, those interested in having a permit have LESS THAN 10 DAYS to get one or YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET A PERMIT UNTIL AND UNLESS THEY CHANGE THE ORDINANCE. Don't see that happening. :bang:

I know that some folks don't want anyone to have a permit to drive on the beach, and I can understand that.... but used responsibly, I think this is/was a wonderful thing to be able to do.

Anyway, glad I remembered to renew mine! :wave:

TT

I don't think paying your taxes is to much to ask as a prerequisite.
Alicia Leonard avatar
Alicia LeonardSoWal Insider
#63
The 816 permits had been the original recommendation because, according to the attorney, that was the number of existing permits on the day of the meeting. He changed his recommendation to the number of existing permits at the effective date of the ordinance, which would likely be a different number. So the 816 number was not in the amendment as it was finally approved.


So, if everyone rushes out to get one, the number allowed might be a bit higher?
miznotebook avatar
miznotebookBeach Fanatic
#64
So, if everyone rushes out to get one, the number allowed might be a bit higher?
That's what I understood from the meeting, but I'll verify. (Not about the rushing out but about the number going up.) :wave:
Alicia Leonard avatar
Alicia LeonardSoWal Insider
#65
That's what I understood from the meeting, but I'll verify. (Not about the rushing out but about the number going up.) :wave:


I think you should be named mizrocketscientist for being able to keep up with all of this.:bow:You do a very good job of explaining issues like this and keeping the public informed. Thank you.:wave:
gmarcBeach Fanatic
#68
what does this mean?

what does this mean in the new ordinance? i just got a sticker and if i can't renew i'm not interested in having it. it says you must have had a sticker in the prior year? does that mean people had to have a sticker in 2009 and 2010? if so that means only people that got one over 12 months ago and now.



a. The person applying for the permit must have had a permit as of the effective date of this ordinance and for the year preceding the date of application. Each parcel of property shall only be entitled to one vehicle permit and one boat trailer permit each year.
Just Curious avatar
Just CuriousBeach Fanatic
#69
what does this mean in the new ordinance? i just got a sticker and if i can't renew i'm not interested in having it. it says you must have had a sticker in the prior year? does that mean people had to have a sticker in 2009 and 2010? if so that means only people that got one over 12 months ago and now.



a. The person applying for the permit must have had a permit as of the effective date of this ordinance and for the year preceding the date of application. Each parcel of property shall only be entitled to one vehicle permit and one boat trailer permit each year.

That means you will have to have gotten your permit between June 1, 2009 and the effective date of the ordinace in order to apply for one on June 1, 2010. The ordinance will probably officially be adopted by the end of week, that's my guess.
gmarcBeach Fanatic
#70
so if got one last week i'll be able to renew? i guess the way the oridinance is written is to prevent people who had one in 2006,2007 and 2008 and let it expire from coming back and reapplying.

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