Comander vs Kramer - thoughts?

I really didn't want to get into details, but she was abrupt, basically a snob, difficult to get along with, and if you can imagine arguing over a corpse...

Funny you should mention that...

http://www.sowal.com/bb/business-goods-services/48260-we-need-other-industry-besides-tourism.html
http://www.sowal.com/bb/employment/17185-need-something-else.html

Funny you should mention that...

http://www.sowal.com/bb/business-goods-services/48260-we-need-other-industry-besides-tourism.html
http://www.sowal.com/bb/employment/17185-need-something-else.html

And your point is?

And your point is?

Over your head.

Over your head.

Early in the day to start this over again. Haven't said anything new, still say we need new industry, and I don't think Commander will take us in that direction.

Well then perhaps the Chamber needs to step up! Although, considering the record of Walton county concerning businesses closing and leaving the area, adjustments need to be made. Let's see, St. Joe laid off 750, the chicken plant in DFS closed and moved to Alabama, the beer distributer in DFS closed... not good. We now have an airport accessible, we could use the intercoastal to ship by barge... We need to assist existing business to not only survive, but expand, and make it attractive for new business to come in.



I really didn't want to get into details, but she was abrupt, basically a snob, difficult to get along with, and if you can imagine arguing over a corpse...

Walton County has, as SWGB mentioned, a Chamber of Commerce. We also have the Walton County Economic Development Council, both which are trying to grow businesses in this area to bring in jobs.

As for your comment on JOE firing 750 employees in Walton County, I know they laid off several, including my friends. Most Realtors formerly working with JOE, have transferred to other local brokers. JOE also employed people for WaterColor and WaterSound. However, you can't honestly say they fired all of those people. Most of those people weren't downsized. They basically just changed bosses, continuing to work the same jobs in the same places. The new boss in Noble House which now manages the businesses which used to be operated by JOE.

As I understand things, Freeport will soon have a new solar energy plant coming to the area. They are also slated to have a new distribution center for Southern Wine & Spirits.

This subject is a bit off track of the thread, so back to Comander vs Kramer.

I will be supporting Commissioner Comander. I think she is one of the few who actually listens to the people before deciding on an issue, and she usually votes with her heart. I like that.

p.s. ? I don't think the role of government (of any government, local or federal) is to create jobs. Gov't should be helpful in protecting the people, while trying to reduce barriers. Instead of pointing to someone else to bring in jobs, maybe people like you and I need to put our minds to use and find needs which can be met by creating businesses.

p.s. ? I don't think the role of government (of any government, local or federal) is to create jobs. Gov't should be helpful in protecting the people, while trying to reduce barriers. Instead of pointing to someone else to bring in jobs, maybe people like you and I need to put our minds to use and find needs which can be met by creating businesses.

It is not the business of government to create jobs, yet government can either expedite the process, or cause it to stagnate. Along with creating tremendous expense shouldered by business. At a cost of about 100 grand to do a developement order, I'd say that's way too much. It would be one thing if someone was creating a shopping plaza, but fees should be reduced greatly for the other end of the scope.

It is not the business of government to create jobs, yet government can either expedite the process, or cause it to stagnate. Along with creating tremendous expense shouldered by business. At a cost of about 100 grand to do a developement order, I'd say that's way too much. It would be one thing if someone was creating a shopping plaza, but fees should be reduced greatly for the other end of the scope.

Obviously, you have never attended a session of "Walton County Down the Road" at which, to the best of my knowledge, Sara Comander not only attended but was a leader in laying out future development for Walton County.
I doubt very seriously that it costs 100 grand to do a development order but if it does, and all the i's are dotted and the t's crossed and the land use code followed, it would be well worth it. There is much to be done in this county to further proper development and the first effort should be to pursue a stringent zoning code. It would do a great deal to assure proper development, particularly in SoWal, but also in the rest of the county as well. Commissioner Comander is the one, in this election, best suited to accomplish such growth fairly and equitably.

Obviously, you have never attended a session of "Walton County Down the Road" at which, to the best of my knowledge, Sara Comander not only attended but was a leader in laying out future development for Walton County.
I doubt very seriously that it costs 100 grand to do a development order but if it does, and all the i's are dotted and the t's crossed and the land use code followed, it would be well worth it. There is much to be done in this county to further proper development and the first effort should be to pursue a stringent zoning code. It would do a great deal to assure proper development, particularly in SoWal, but also in the rest of the county as well. Commissioner Comander is the one, in this election, best suited to accomplish such growth fairly and equitably.

Whether it costs 100 grand, or 50 grand, it's still too much. Let's see how low we can go.

How low does it need to be? The current rate hasn't stopped anyone w/ a SERIOUS plan (not just whining and biatching) from moving forward.

How low does it need to be? The current rate hasn't stopped anyone w/ a SERIOUS plan (not just whining and biatching) from moving forward.

How about adjusting the cost to the size/value of the development. Allow mom and pop business to start up and survive. Try creativity and imagination.

How about adjusting the cost to the size/value of the development. Allow mom and pop business to start up and survive. Try creativity and imagination.

You're dealing with facts and laws, creativity and imagination are best left to the architects.

Can you point to the law restricting mom and pop businesses?

You're dealing with facts and laws, creativity and imagination are best left to the architects.

Can you point to the law restricting mom and pop businesses?

I already did that, the cost of the development order. Architects are not the only ones with imagination and creativity.

I already did that, the cost of the development order. Architects are not the only ones with imagination and creativity.

It really is like talking to a spam bot. :shock:

"I will be supporting Commissioner Comander. I think she is one of the few who actually listens to the people before deciding on an issue, and she usually votes with her heart. I like that."


Shouldn't she vote based on reason, logic, and the law? Just because you might not like something or agree with it, if it meets the requirements of our comp plan and LDC, the board should approve it. I find nothing more annoying and frustrating when similar projects or requests get different votes because of someone's "heart".

Early in the day to start this over again. Haven't said anything new, still say we need new industry, and I don't think Commander will take us in that direction.

Kramer has a lot, or a client, or a friend of a friend with a friend who has an industry that he will be glad to bring into Walton....he admits he has no love for the historical areas of Walton...he feels that residents who live here and love the historical nature and try to protect it aren't smart enough to know what is best for the county, as far as he is concern, only he sees the whole picture. He knows best! I personally feel this man is not endowed with the self control to be a Commissioner...ever watch him at a County Commissioner Meeting when speaking?

I will be supporting Commissioner Comander. I think she is one of the few who actually listens to the people before deciding on an issue, and she usually votes with her heart. I like that.


Shouldn't she vote based on reason, logic, and the law? Just because you might not like somehing or agree with it, if it meets the requirements of our comp plan and LDC, the board should approve it. I find nothing more annoying and frustrating when similar projects or requests get different votes because of someone's "heart".

Whose reason, whose logic are you speaking of....Kramer's?

"I will be supporting Commissioner Comander. I think she is one of the few who actually listens to the people before deciding on an issue, and she usually votes with her heart. I like that."


Shouldn't she vote based on reason, logic, and the law? Just because you might not like something or agree with it, if it meets the requirements of our comp plan and LDC, the board should approve it. I find nothing more annoying and frustrating when similar projects or requests get different votes because of someone's "heart".

They're not call "elected representatives" for the hell of it.

Just saw in the Walton Sun where Mr. Kramer said Ms. Comander reminded him of his Grandmother....thought that was really funny. She is 64 and he is 60. I guess he has one of those magic mirrors...he must see `"grandson" rather than Grandpa when he brushes his teeth.