Policy on Personal Beach Chairs vs Vendor

Far better solution is to get rid of all on-beach storage.

The ideal solution would be to eliminate all vending from public
accesses. But I don't see that happening.

So, my compromise wish list for public accesses (not necessarily
in this order):
1. No on-beach storage.

2. Limit beach vending to chairs and umbrellas only.

3. On-demand rental or delivery/pickup to rental house/condo.
In other words, no setting up on the beach without the customer
there to take delivery. That's the way it's done at the state parks.
Or customers can have chairs/umbrellas delivered to their rental
and tote them down to the beach and back themselves, just like
we all do.

4. Reduce vending areas to 25% of the beach.

After the primary election is over, I'll be sending email to our
commissioners about this.

The ideal solution would be to eliminate all vending from public
accesses. But I don't see that happening.

So, my compromise wish list for public accesses (not necessarily
in this order):
1. No on-beach storage.

2. Limit beach vending to chairs and umbrellas only.

3. On-demand rental or delivery/pickup to rental house/condo.
In other words, no setting up on the beach without the customer
there to take delivery. That's the way it's done at the state parks.
Or customers can have chairs/umbrellas delivered to their rental
and tote them down to the beach and back themselves, just like
we all do.

4. Reduce vending areas to 25% of the beach.

After the primary election is over, I'll be sending email to our
commissioners about this.

5. Vendor set back 30' from wet sand like PCB
6. Beach front owners ....vendors also,30' back from wet sand
(If this was the rule and enforced vendor problem will implode) problems solve

The ideal solution would be to eliminate all vending from public
accesses.
But I don't see that happening.

Enough public input and I believe the vendor problem goes away.
There is NO good reason for a beach service at ANY public beach access.

Enough public input and I believe the vendor problem goes away.
There is NO good reason for a beach service at ANY public beach access.

September 6 2016 @ 3:00 pm I think. Make your voice heard.

You guys would nothing more than to put these guys out of business with no though on how it will affect them, their family, and their employees. Alot of these vendors have been in business longer than you guys have lived here. The chairs are going to be on the beach regardless if it is a vendor or a store bought chair.

Alot of these vendors have been in business longer than you guys have lived here. .

You do not know this to be correct.
And it's a moot point.

You guys would nothing more than to put these guys out of business with no though on how it will affect them, their family, and their employees. Alot of these vendors have been in business longer than you guys have lived here. The chairs are going to be on the beach regardless if it is a vendor or a store bought chair.

Store bought is Perfect cause they use them. Then remove and go home and some more store bought ones arrive.
The vendors around here mostly have girl friends and truck payments

...The vendors around here mostly have girl friends and truck payments...

Those were the days.

Store bought is Perfect cause they use them. Then remove and go home and some more store bought ones arrive.
The vendors around here mostly have girl friends and truck payments

I usually find them in the Tdc trash cans. Do your homework? Are you looking down on people who have truck payments and girlfriends?

You do not know this to be correct.
And it's a moot point.

Most of the true locals know who has been in business for how long. Just some of the quotes about vendors lets me know half of you guys do not even know whats going on you just want to complain. These guys arent setting up chairs because people dont want them.

Enough public input and I believe the vendor problem goes away.
There is NO good reason for a beach service at ANY public beach access.

20 years of doing it is a good reason. Ask the owner of Beach chairs for you? We can use 100 percent of the beach. Vendors have 50 or less.

5. Vendor set back 30' from wet sand like PCB
6. Beach front owners ....vendors also,30' back from wet sand
(If this was the rule and enforced vendor problem will implode) problems solve

This is funny PCB keeps them right on the water and does not remove them at night.

Enough public input and I believe the vendor problem goes away.
There is NO good reason for a beach service at ANY public beach access.

Agree. Unfortunately the "compromise" that is going to be forced on us will likely be charging vendors a fee, rather than doing the right thing and keeping our beaches free of commerce.

20 years of doing it is a good reason. Ask the owner of Beach chairs for you? We can use 100 percent of the beach. Vendors have 50 or less.

Isn't his wife now running against T. Anderson?

Lots of political folks connected to beach vendors.

I believe they are divorced.

Most of the true locals know who has been in business for how long. Just some of the quotes about vendors lets me know half of you guys do not even know whats going on you just want to complain. These guys arent setting up chairs because people dont want them.

What is a "true local"?
And...dope dealers aren't selling dope because people don't want them.....

20 years of doing it is a good reason. Ask the owner of Beach chairs for you? We can use 100 percent of the beach. Vendors have 50 or less.

Sorry, but...I do not recall beach vendors doing business at the public beach access 20 years ago?

Isn't his wife now running against T. Anderson?

Lots of political folks connected to beach vendors.

C.Jones she will b voted out next. Book it

I like putting chairs right in front of their set ups, so I bring 8 chairs with me to the beach and put them directly in front of them right along the water line. 8 chairs about 8 ft apart, just to show how freaking ridiculous it is. Have you noticed how many "no shows" that they have weekly?

I usually find them in the Tdc trash cans. Do your homework? Are you looking down on people who have truck payments and girlfriends?

Pretty sure he was reminiscing.

Store bought is Perfect cause they use them. Then remove and go home and some more store bought ones arrive.
The vendors around here mostly have girl friends and truck payments

My home is right by a community beach access and I sit on my porch early in the mornings (7-9) and watch locals and tourists pull their vehicle (car, truck, van, golfcart) up to the access and unload their chairs, coolers, umbrellas, tents, toys, surfboards, etc. and then get back in and go home. They go back to bed and come back around lunch to spend a few hours. Then they go home for naps or out to eat a late lunch and leave it there for hours, only to come back to sit in them to watch the sunset, load up, and go home. And that is fine. There is really not difference between them doing it and the vendors setting up long before their guests (who paid them to set up) come to sit. If you are going to say vendors cant do it, are you going to go after the people in their store-bought chairs too? The beaches are crowded, and you can no longer expect to lumber down there at 11 a.m. and get the best seat. It doesnt work that way anywhere.

My home is right by a community beach access and I sit on my porch early in the mornings (7-9) and watch locals and tourists pull their vehicle (car, truck, van, golfcart) up to the access and unload their chairs, coolers, umbrellas, tents, toys, surfboards, etc. and then get back in and go home. They go back to bed and come back around lunch to spend a few hours. Then they go home for naps or out to eat a late lunch and leave it there for hours, only to come back to sit in them to watch the sunset, load up, and go home. And that is fine. There is really not difference between them doing it and the vendors setting up long before their guests (who paid them to set up) come to sit. If you are going to say vendors cant do it, are you going to go after the people in their store-bought chairs too? The beaches are crowded, and you can no longer expect to lumber down there at 11 a.m. and get the best seat. It doesnt work that way anywhere.

Yes....but, it isn't 65 bucks. The deal is very simple and why Walton Co. can't seem to have vendors do it like every other beach town does is beyond me. Have them keep all of their equipment at the dune line and when some pays, then set it up where there is space. Otherwise on a busy weekend you are forced to use a vendor, or set in the street. 4th of July on the "public" part of the beach there were probably 80+ set ups and 30 renters. That is just complete BS and angers me far more than a family from Des Moines setting up their tent at 6am.

Yes....but, it isn't 65 bucks. The deal is very simple and why Walton Co. can't seem to have vendors do it like every other beach town does is beyond me. Have them keep all of their equipment at the dune line and when some pays, then set it up where there is space. Otherwise on a busy weekend you are forced to use a vendor, or set in the street. 4th of July on the "public" part of the beach there were probably 80+ set ups and 30 renters. That is just complete BS and angers me far more than a family from Des Moines setting up their tent at 6am.

65 for what 3 days. Nobody charges 65 a day. I rent from a service who does a local discount of 10 a day for 2 chairs and 25 a day for tourist . Keep it to the facts Bay County and Okaloosa County allows unused chairs to be set up.

65 for what 3 days. Nobody charges 65 a day. I rent from a service who does a local discount of 10 a day for 2 chairs and 25 a day for tourist . Keep it to the facts Bay County and Okaloosa County allows unused chairs to be set up.

Also nowhere in Walton county had 80 sets on public beach anytime this season. That is just a false statement. My problem is people complaining and either not knowing the oridnance or striaght up lying to try and get there point acrossed. Vendors are for the most part following the rules. The rules are more than fair. I think the biggest thing we can all do and try to get the facts on the rules before we condemn hard-working young men trying to earn a living.

What is a "true local"?
And...dope dealers aren't selling dope because people don't want them.....

Sorry, but...I do not recall beach vendors doing business at the public beach access 20 years ago?

They were. Gulf Coast, Beach chairs 4 u, Southwinds. A true local is a person who has lived here there whole life and actual knows a little about the history of the county. A true local hasnt moved from somewhere else and try to change things that would put other locals out of business.

Also nowhere in Walton county had 80 sets on public beach anytime this season. That is just a false statement. My problem is people complaining and either not knowing the oridnance or striaght up lying to try and get there point acrossed. Vendors are for the most part following the rules. The rules are more than fair. I think the biggest thing we can all do and try to get the facts on the rules before we condemn hard-working young men trying to earn a living.

80 could be very close to correct. I've seen in excess of 30 many places. And yes the vendors are the problem. Doing business on public property. Anything south of MHWL is public beach. No one owns the wet sand. Which is where you guys setup.