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Quit claim of beach front land

Beach Lover
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I was at a walkover in sea grove this weekend and overheard a beach front homeowner arguing with a beach goer. The homeowner stated they paid taxes on beach land and it was theirs. At that time the the beach guy mentioned that was because the homeowner quick claimed the beach for a 100.00 . The property was at the end of San Juan ave. the home owner said that was right. I wonder how much of the beach has been given away for that price? I looked on tax Page and that's what it says also.i also seen where a judge in 1994 stated it was gulf shore manor beach for perpetual use of sunbathing and recreation.from Dothan street to pelayo.

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Shannon Lince avatar
Beach Lover
#102
Why would the judgement state the owners of gulf shore manor subdivision. If you notice the owners tried to take ownership and the judge ruled on behalf of the gulf shore manor subdivision. Also the land you are talking about was in that judgement. The property between the back of his house and the dunes belong to gulfshore manor. He has about 5 foot of setback.the he claimed the beach on other side of his property. And it's not just him it's the complete area. There was a road at top of dunes at one point.the developers purchased upland property , then they went to claiming land. That is when the ruling came in. If you go to top of dunes you can see where the line is. The sad thing this area is not the only one. Look at stallworth lake walkovers . You will see not long ago they took ownership of easements also

Okay - but it's a quiet title claim between two private parties and nothing to do with the county. What does this have to do with private owners taking PUBLIC property?
Beach LoverAuthor
#103
This will be the next one they try to take
jodiFL avatar
Beach Fanatic
#104
It IS ridiculous.. but when you have out of state owners where the property has been in the family for generations and they never see the "public notice" signs on the road, plus you have some unscrupulous BFOs that will "unintentionally" not notify ALL 25 property owners because they might just object to it.....and that judge just sees what is put in front of him, drawn up by the BFOs lawyers, then you have Walton county BCCs signing off on the deal...You end up with a bunch of grandkids that inherited some land in Florida with beach access (supposedly) coming down to find their properties access doesnt belong to them anymore. And I promise that there is more of it than we will ever know because the county isnt going to admit they allowed it.
jodiFL avatar
Beach Fanatic
#105
This will be the next one they try to take
Yep... because the Montigo one has never had a walkover. They will say it has been abandoned even tho there is CLEARLY a trail showing it is still in use.
Shannon Lince avatar
Beach Lover
#106
It IS ridiculous.. but when you have out of state owners where the property has been in the family for generations and they never see the "public notice" signs on the road, plus you have some unscrupulous BFOs that will "unintentionally" not notify ALL 25 property owners because they might just object to it.....and that judge just sees what is put in front of him, drawn up by the BFOs lawyers, then you have Walton county BCCs signing off on the deal...You end up with a bunch of grandkids that inherited some land in Florida with beach access (supposedly) coming down to find their properties access doesnt belong to them anymore. And I promise that there is more of it than we will ever know because the county isnt going to admit they allowed it.
I hear you, but I'm confused? How would the BCC sign off on any quiet title claim? It's ruled by a judge.

People fight generational wars over property borders and rights so nothing should surprise anyone.
Shannon Lince avatar
Beach Lover
#107
Yep... because the Montigo one has never had a walkover. They will say it has been abandoned even tho there is CLEARLY a trail showing it is still in use.

Does the county own this or have a public access easement?
Beach LoverAuthor
#108
It is owned by gulf shore manor sub. The county parking at Santa Clara is really gulf shore manor beach. The San Juan road is private . And they own the Dothan, pelayo and Santa Clara access.
Shannon Lince avatar
Beach Lover
#109
It is owned by gulf shore manor sub. The county parking at Santa Clara is really gulf shore manor beach. The San Juan road is private . And they own the Dothan, pelayo and Santa Clara access.

So who is your beef with here? It sounds to me to be Gulf Shore Manor Subdivision. I'm not following at all that this is PUBLIC property that someone is taking with quiet title.
FloridaBeachBum avatar
Beach Fanatic
#110
SL makes a great point, quiet title actions clarify or will quiet the title of property between recent private owners or on private properties where the public thought are acted as IF the property was public property. Unless you believe all Florida beachfront properties are publicly titled property or owned by the public, and the reportedly 60% of Florida beachfront private property, are fraudulent titled; the public has NO property rights to private property to “quiet” and all the bundle of rights that go with the private property owner’s title. Regardless of who has title; public customary use of private property “... does not create any interest in the land [or to the title] itself.”

If the ANY Walton quiet title was fraudulent or in error don’t you think the commissioners would be all over that!? So show all Florida beachfront property is public property fraudulently titled to private owners through quiet title with evidence OR stop the fake facts, and my sand is your sand, emotional outcries.

Don't even go into the quick claim deeds conspiracy please.
MRBS avatar
Beach Lover
#112
Well that sucks. I know when I bought my property I had to stay right on the title company as they were missing things. I know one neighborhood Seabreeze took Ramsgate to court and won back their access. So yes, I got ya now. I'm sure you are right and it's very ridiculous. But unfortunately, it was up to the deeded access owners to defend their interest and not let someone get away with pulling this kind of crap. Seems like a lot of messy stuff with property has gone on in Walton county. I could go through my neigborhoods battles but your point is well taken.

What land does your title insurance policy insure?
Emerald Drifter avatar
Beach Fanatic
#113
This will be the next one they try to take

You can bet those "get outta my yard" geezers will.

I just started a thread called "Beach Access Watch". Would you post this on that thread?

I see this as a thread where we can catalog, take present photos, post old photos, of ALL of Walton County beach access points.
Shannon Lince avatar
Beach Lover
#114
What land does your title insurance policy insure?

Why would a title insurance policy insure land? Don't understand the question.
MRBS avatar
Beach Lover
#115
Why would a title insurance policy insure land? Don't understand the question.
Let me rephrase: Just wondering if the Land in your title policy includes anything more than your discrete lot.
Shannon Lince avatar
Beach Lover
#116
Let me rephrase: Just wondering if the Land in your title policy includes anything more than your discrete lot.

It includes the entire legal description of the deed if that's what you are asking. What's your point?
Beach Fanatic
#117
So what happened with the Montigo Avenue Public Beach Access? It has been removed from the TDC list of public accesses. How did it get taken away?
Beach Fanatic
#119
Also someone let me know after I posted that Headland Avenue Access has disappeared. I looked and it is true. There is a house where it once was. This is not a good trend. It seems the people of Walton County are getting shafted.
Beach LoverAuthor
#120
For gulf shore manor, if it were a prize fight. The score is Frank Watson in round 7 is leading 7-0. Maybe county should out source this one. They are selling lots that are a part of law suit. Also sold his own lot that filled in creek (last lot north Santa Clara). He’s made an offer to county to pay clients off or will settle in court. Yet they let him do what he wants. ( Montigo access). Cross the state control line on beach. They also took Bramble Grove from former developers so they could build more houses, with no title. So in the end I say they will give them all they want, as long as they keep their illegally built parking lot. Notice that south San Juan (blue sign) is a private road, but county parking. Santa Clara county parking on gulf shore manor property, remember they get paid for every parking space each year. From my dealings with them they’re trying to keep their money from state and not pay lawyers for what they think is their’s. That is why Tony Anderson said he’s not allowed to talk at it.( no show tony).from what I hear the state pays 1,000 a year per spot.at this point any one who thanks I’m wrong go to Santa Clara north. End of road all white sand was filled in in 2018, which planning new and state stopped . Now pilings in creek and also permit for next lot past.
Beach Lover
#121
For gulf shore manor, if it were a prize fight. The score is Frank Watson in round 7 is leading 7-0. Maybe county should out source this one. They are selling lots that are a part of law suit. Also sold his own lot that filled in creek (last lot north Santa Clara). He’s made an offer to county to pay clients off or will settle in court. Yet they let him do what he wants. ( Montigo access). Cross the state control line on beach. They also took Bramble Grove from former developers so they could build more houses, with no title. So in the end I say they will give them all they want, as long as they keep their illegally built parking lot. Notice that south San Juan (blue sign) is a private road, but county parking. Santa Clara county parking on gulf shore manor property, remember they get paid for every parking space each year. From my dealings with them they’re trying to keep their money from state and not pay lawyers for what they think is their’s. That is why Tony Anderson said he’s not allowed to talk at it.( no show tony).from what I hear the state pays 1,000 a year per spot.at this point any one who thanks I’m wrong go to Santa Clara north. End of road all white sand was filled in in 2018, which planning new and state stopped . Now pilings in creek and also permit for next lot past.
Wow. No offense but you might need a nap.
Beach LoverAuthor
#122
Explain how they can build in creek
Beach Fanatic
#123
Explain how they can build in creek
You're spamming the forum. Maybe it's relevant but hard to follow. You already have your own thread about it. Post there.

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