Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

I agree with you FBB. Thank you for treating me with respect however I do believe that you enjoy a privilege that others will not have even though they work just as hard as you and your family.

I agree with you Dave. Unfortunately you disrespect by using words like "silly" and "ridiculous" etc. I will continue to disagree with your tactic of moral superiority. In my opinion it is hypocritical. Believe it or not I am on the side of Customary Use but not the tactics being used.

Teresa I hear what you are saying and I know that you try very hard to be respectful but one bad apple can spoil the whole bunch. For me it is about the whole bunch of apples not just CU or Property Rights. Does it really have to all or nothing? Is it just not possible to reason with property owners at all?

What I said is that it is ridiculous that the author of this thread with the fake name,...if we knew who they were ...

5 County Commissioners in Walton County voted 5 to zero to affirm Customary Use as an ordinance. 5 County Commissioners voted 5 to zero to proceed with the process set forth in HB 631.

We will tell anyone willing to listen what we believe.

There will always be bad actors, out of control with personal attacks.

We don't condone that, nor can we control that as people say and do things on impulse without thinking; plenty of examples of Private Beachfront owners treating beachgoers with disrespect.

We, Florida Beaches For All, do not personally attack people and have treated those with private property on the beaches with respect. We will defend ourselves when attacked though.

Attempts to silence hard working Realtors on their opinions supporting Customary Use have and will fail.

...We just disagree with you Reggie Gaskins or whoever you are with your fake name and all you others who don't stand out of the shadows as yourselves.

The actions of a handful of private beachfront owners, political operatives, politicians and past politicians and lawyers going all the way back to the stop beach nourishment movement are responsible for any legacy damage that has and may occur.

A Judge in Walton County will decide, then many others will decide in other courts. Or, perhaps the people of Florida will decide. One way or the other this goes far beyond any of us.

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1. This picture and comment was used by Dave and FBFA as a scare tactic and as evidence of a private taking of public beach. The platt and public documents published on this thread prove this to be an outright lie. But FBFA wouldn’t allow public comment on it or any other of their false narratives at their meetings or online. Knowing these beaches were indeed private in 2009 and many years before that, you decide.
2. This same fake image was created and first published by the very same individual that created and published the sniper video that shoots and apparently kills a BPO. Yet Dave claims they don’t “associate” with each other, even though FBFA hangs their hat on his fake image and more. Are they working together? You decide.
3. Dave claims just now, here, in this thread, that that he didn’t try to intimidate, silence, or identify a Mr Lince to Sheriff deputy.
Dave: “The investigation was never into James Lince it was into the anonymous blog. We only later found out it was Mr Lince‘s after the investigation was complete.”
Here is the publicly available police report. You decide.
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Is Dave telling the truth? You decide.

There are over 25 cases of public shaming and doxxing of entirely innocent Beach Property Owners, many documented here by more police reports.

Dave, if it’s that important and you’re so interested in meeting me, getting to know me, understanding who I am... let’s meet in a public discussion/forum in the Seaside Amphitheater with a table & microphones. 1 1/2 hours, You and me, and the public. I’ll bring crackers and cheeses, and drinks. You just show up. Let’s have a public discussion with civil discourse, for once. You game?

People, I encourage you to stop listening to only one side. Please please please go meet your neighbors on the beach. They are fine, moral, generous and humble folks from near and far. Dave will tell you not to, to compromise is death! This damn fake war needs to end. If you don’t show up on their property with cameras and looking for a fight, you won’t get one, just like in the last 50 years. Hint, don’t go to Vizcaya, childish CU activists have them pretty jaded.

Headed to the beach.... hope to see ya there. Cuz I bet I won’t see ya at Seaside Amphitheater anytime soon.

So I’ll take that as a “no” for my picnic?

Folks, I have offered an objective, non emotional view in this entire thread. Given the last flurry, YOU decide. Is there room for discussion? Or should we retreat to our tactical corners and wait for courts to decide after the ground is scorched?[/QUOTE]
YES!

So Dave refuses to have an open discussion where he cannot control the audience or message. I can understand why. After all of this discussion, reading back over it, here’s my objective conclusion based on the facts herein:

The Customary Use Fight, Brought on by The County Recklessly Suing it’s Citizens, Regardless of the Ultimate Court Decision, Will Destroy Our 30A Legacy.

Dave Rauschkolb, did you or will you file a Walton police report of CUer Chas Galloway violent gun video that appears to be filmed on Seaside private beachfront property near your restaurant? The video is not even anonymous. A video you characterize "that anyone of sound mind would approve of it as well as the leadership of Florida Beaches for all is a lie."

You do not feel threaten or fear for the public's safety by the Chas Galloway's video? If not, why not, if you felt threatened by an anonymous blogger written words that were far less menacing?

We suspected it was James Lince but we had no idea for sure. ... The investigation took a month ...

Reggie, beach bum, fact or fiction fiction, Whatever your names are, y’all can just keep pounding sand I’m finished with this circular nonsense. Adios.

Reggie, beach bum, fact or fiction fiction, Whatever your names are, y’all can just keep pounding sand I’m finished with this circular nonsense. Adios.

My feelings are hurt. My name’s not in the list. You’re leaving the show without sayin bye to me?

I guess you’ve been advised by the attorney for FBFA to avoid / ignore my posts especially when I’m calling you and him out for the Nazi reference. Still you don’t respond. Understandable but cowardly.

The whole purpose of this is to show how hypocritical you and your group are when you profess we should be respectful to each other. But I see very very little of it coming from you and yours. Those were your words about respect in an earlier post when I first responded to your respect comment.

The truth is there is no defense for Uhlfelder’s words and YOU and others KNOW IT. Admit the mistake and maybe we can take a step forward in civility.

Simple.

I harp on this as the “fact” of it all can not be argued.

And regarding the pounding sand comment, if I decide for a beach workout, it will be pounding sand on our private beach. Thank you for the invitation anyway.

Added....and your silence (condoning) of Uhlfelder’s statement is proof positive that Reggie’s premise holds true.... that we’re losing our character and soul on 30-A that we used to have before you and yours stirred all this up.

Added yet again....and if Uhlfelder didn’t say those words, just make that claim.

So Dave refuses to discuss the many CU facts proven false here. So Dave refuses to meet in public forum to have an adult discussion to help heal our community. So it appears the online personal attacks against innocent beach property owners has escalated. A great recap of historical TRUE facts can be followed here at the blog Dave recommended earlier in this thread:
FloridaBeachBum: CU Timeline
Walton Watchdog

My feelings are hurt. My name’s not in the list. You’re leaving the show without sayin bye to me?

I guess you’ve been advised by the attorney for FBFA to avoid / ignore my posts especially when I’m calling you and him out for the Nazi reference. Still you don’t respond. Understandable but cowardly.

The whole purpose of this is to show how hypocritical you and your group are when you profess we should be respectful to each other. But I see very very little of it coming from you and yours. Those were your words about respect in an earlier post when I first responded to your respect comment.

The truth is there is no defense for Uhlfelder’s words and YOU and others KNOW IT. Admit the mistake and maybe we can take a step forward in civility.

Simple.

I harp on this as the “fact” of it all can not be argued.

And regarding the pounding sand comment, if I decide for a beach workout, it will be pounding sand on our private beach. Thank you for the invitation anyway.

Added....and your silence (condoning) of Uhlfelder’s statement is proof positive that Reggie’s premise holds true.... that we’re losing our character and soul on 30-A that we used to have before you and yours stirred all this up.

Added yet again....and if Uhlfelder didn’t say those words, just make that claim.

This area was a gentle, friendly, beautiful place...

Are you the founder of Seaside?

This area was a gentle, friendly, beautiful place when Dave and many others like him built it. It is crystal clear that the greedy people who have moved here in the last 15 years and their lawyers are ruining it. Bad acting tourists are a shame but no justification for the exclusionary tactics.

So now we’re putting a time constraint on who is “greedy” and “ruining it”. Wiping the sweat off my forehead. Dodged yet another bullet as have most of my BFO friends.

You know, something profound just materialized in front of me with your “15 year” statement.....

In the old days there was not a problem. But in the last 15 years, unmanaged growth from a beach access perspective has finally caught up with all of us. And here we are in court. I know that part is not profound.

But what is interesting is that the most passionate people in this forum regarding CU seem to be those who have been in the area quite a while as well as have many BFOs. In effect we end up being victims for the real reason of all this debate and vitriol - continued growth / development, restaurants/businesses, real estate industry, BCC constituency pacification, on and on.

And I would venture a guess that many who support CU sincerely do so for the basic concept of just simply going to the beach. I get it.

But the ones that are pushing the hardest and the loudest while using your taxpayer dollars to do so are not the ones who have a pure altruistic reason for doing so.

They are pitting the ordinary beach goer to the ordinary private property owner - many on both sides who have deep roots in the area and used to get along. And they are stirring this up for only one reason...

MONEY, obviously.

The profound part is not the money aspect but rather that so many people are being manipulated by those with hidden agendas. BFOs just want to use their property in peace, the same as many of you who also own private property elsewhere. And of course, the public wants to go to the beach.

The profound part is that many of the “old timers” are the ones that take all this very personally on both sides of CU. We are the ones who yearn for the way things were. A time when when we simply got along. A time when one could go to the beach at a public access and have room to set up an umbrella. A time when BFOs could enjoy their property without hordes of uninvited tourists trying to take over.

And it’s all the new inland development, influx of new tourists and others that now put pressure on many of the private beaches as the public accesses are NOW not big enough to handle everbody. Again very bad planning as in no planning and a very bad bet that beach nourishment would solve that problem on the county’s part.

A previous poster made an analogy of this thread to a chess game. Maybe so, maybe not. But what is clear (to me) is the public (both sides of the argument) is being used as pawns by the government and by those who exert their influence upon the government for the one simple reason - MONEY.

The judicial process is the only thing that seems to keep this county in check. It’s a shame the county can’t do the right thing to begin with but too many have become jaded with many of the government’s questionable tactics. And that statement goes far beyond the CU controversy.

Greedy - such an overused word by so many.